Thursday March 20, 1997 at 9 PM ET in the Kitchen
Conference Room -- LIVE CHAT on Cake Decorating with Dolores777:
"Simple and easy cake designs and techniques to make your job easier"
Easter ideas coming up!"
So many of you have asked:: here is the way to our cake decorating area
of AOL again: From the AOL opening screen, use Keyword 'Cooking Club',
In the top center 'brown' box, click on 'Cook's School', Then on Cake decorating
Online...here you are...now add to your <favorites> with the little
<red> heart at top of screen you are on. DO visit 'Discuss Cake Decorating'
Add your input please. We have a great time there.
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DONNKIM: What are lace points
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Dolores777: Lace pieces are the same...those little royal icing lace points
we attach to mostly rolled fondant cakes. Wilton calls them lace pieces
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POURQUOI8: My teacher says that there is a difference, maybe in size? Does
anyone Know where I could find this information? (NO, sorry)
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DONNKIM: like a ruffle or lace that sticks out around the cake?
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(From Dolores) I don't know of a difference. But we'll try and remember
to ask Pwd sugar when she returns, just to make sure.
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Lhamby7231: what about making roses? I'm having a hard time making them
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Dolores777: making roses???
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Dolores777: practice and the right consistency of icing are 2 suggestions
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(From Dolores): I didn't think I had the chance to answer your rose question
thoroughly...so As well as practice and the correct icing consistency,
here are a few other tips: (If you ignore either of the items below, your
roses will resemble cabbages.
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1. The MORE you want your petals to look 'open' the more you turn/twist
your tip out away from you For the very last petals, the tip will be turned
over almost flat to the nail.
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2. You MUST touch the part of the flower that's already made AT ALL TIMES!
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3. (Maybe this should have been #1): Try to add the bud, 3 petals (last
overlapping the first), now add 5 more petals (last overlapping the first),
now add 7 more (last overlapping the first)...IF you didn't have room for
3-5-7 petals around your bud...you are making your petals too long.
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4. Another tip...Each time you add a petal, if you continue on around
after you stop squeezing out icing just a little, petals will look more
;finished' and not be sticking out in your way for the next petal.
"SIMPLE AND EASY CAKE DESIGNS AND TECHNIQUES TO
MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER" EASTER IDEAS COMING UP!"
Before we start <<next>> week we'll have Panorama eggs for you
this week 'easy' stuff.
PAN IDEAS: You buy a character cake pan, use it once and
what is it good for? 1. Turn the pan over and look at is NOT as what it
is meant to be, but something NEW. What else could you make in this pan...
2. Always check out Wilton's Year Books to see what else they've used the
pans for. Each year they make other cakes in pans than what the cake was
designed for. Just this morning someone wanted to make a 'Peter Pan' cake.
Wanted to know if there was a pan. I told her to try the Pocohantas pan.
The face would be nearly the same. Another suggestion for this is Wilton's
Handsome Guy Pan. If you want to make a fish-shaped cake, check out the
Peek-a-Boo Bunny pan. The ears make a perfect fish tail.
DONNKIM: I made a Mug of Beer out of the Golf Club pan. Cute!
'DRESS UP' A CAKE MIX: You can add any ingredient that
won't alter the baking process. Do not add oils or shortening, sugars,
more eggs (toughens) or flour. You can safely add nuts, coloring, flavoring,
brittles, rainbow sprinkles, candies, etc. Try this one: *RED VELVET CAKE*
to your favorite yellow cake mix, add: 2 TB Hershey's powdered cocoa and
red food coloring to desired color not too much coloring. This recipe was
developed wayyy back when all we had were the watered down colors from
the grocer. Another: *CARROT CAKE*: To a Betty Crocker Carrot Cake mix
add: 1 teas Cinnamon, 1/4 teas Cloves, 1/4 teas Ginger, 1/4 teas Nutmeg,
3 cups Raw carrots, grated fine, 1 cup chopped pecans (These are both recipes
I made up and have used many times.)
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Happcook: Dee re:carrot cake recipe, what temp and how long should it bake
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(From Dolores) Bake at your regular temp...325-350 degrees, depending on
your oven (If it runs a little hot etc).
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DONNKIM: How can I get white cakes not to stick so much. Other flavors
don't do this? Why is it that it sticks so much more?
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Dolores777: Use a little more grease/flour Kim. I use a commercial pan
spray. It works very well. DO you use the oil called for?
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DONNKIM: yes
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MapLag7: i've never tried that baker joy, does it work good?
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JPine52625: baker's joy good, has flour in it as well as oil
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Dolores777: Spray is MUCH better. You won't have the crust that comes off
in your icing. The pan spray we use is Karp's commercial brand. We tried
several before we decided on this one. It works the best of them all.
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CarolA5238: It's a lot neater than greasing and flouring.
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AlcantD: I alway's get a funny taste when i use spray on my cookie sheet,
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Dolores777: Maybe you need to try a dif. brand
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Alc JPine52625: have noticed the store brand spray tasted bad
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Dolores777: JP I wouldn't use that. We tried MANY before we settled for
the best one
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Lhamby7231: I like the Mazola brand
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DB4MB: Do you use dawn's buttercream too, Dee?
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Dolores777: yes DB PSTRY 8: yes karps spray is better than bakers joy
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DB4MB: Oh, Karps makes the BEST pie filling bases!!
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Dolores777: I use Bettercreme...it comes frozen and you just whip it
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DB4MB: where are you purchasing "bettercreme" from?? is that a Rich's product?
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(From Dolores) We sell Bettercreme in 1-qt cartons. You whip it while frozen.
The more you whip, the stiffer it becomes. This is what in-store bakeries
use for 'whipped' icings.
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DB4MB: Do you use regular buttercream to ice with, Dee?
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Dolores777: Yes, mostly I do. But when requested we use Bettercreme. Someone
said in some areas the brand is Pastry Pride
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DB4MB: Yes, I have used both brands and Bettercreme is the better tasting
one!!
OVEN TOO HOT? If your cakes are baking with HIGH humps,
your oven is surely too hot. If they are baking with very high PEAKED humps
in the middle it is VERY much too hot. Try reducing your oven temperature
by 25 degrees. If this isn't enough, turn it down some more. It seems that
all home ovens are NOT calibrated as they should be. There are also other
factors such as the seal on the door. If it is not tightly sealed cool
air will seep in and make it take longer for your cake to bake. Also, if
the oven is hotter in the back because of this, the cake is apt to be lop-sided.
It will be lower in back because it didn't have as much time to rise there
before it got very hot and done. Reverse the pan a half turn about halfway
through baking to solve this.
WHEN IS IT DONE? Your cake is done when ...it is done....Box or recipe
directions are guidelines. You must also test. TO TEST: Press your finger
lightly in the center of the cake (last part to be done). If the cake BARELY
springs back up it is done. Testing heavy cakes is different. Then a cake
tester may be your best tool. If the cake clings to the tool, bake it longer.
BIG CAKES: Since people can't get LARGE cakes in their
oven..............IMPORTANT: Measure your oven to be sure exactly what
size cake it WILL hold BEFORE purchasing a pan. >>100 Serving sheet cake:
Bake 2 - 11x15 sheet cakes. Place each on a foil-wrapped cardboard the
SAME size. Place them both on a 100 serving sheet cake board with icing
between. Now you can treat this as if it is one cake. LARGE WEDDING CAKES:
Many ovens will not accommodate any larger than a 14" round cake. The answer
to this problem is 'half' pans. These are in half a circle. You bake half
the cake, then the other half and put the two together with icing between.
NOTE: For the top layer, crisscross the cakes the other direction. These
are available in 16 and 18 inch. Maybe more.
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MomaB14: Could someone tell me, is there an ICES chapter in Spfd, MO?
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MomaB14: Who, please? I have asked where I took my classes and they acted
like I was stupid.
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(From Dolores) All ICES info is in our 'Discuss Cake Decorating
area, posted by Pwd sugar on AOL). It gives you full details to join and
also gives you a complete rundown on attending the convention. Pwd worked
very hard on this! As for where to find in YOUR state (I do think your
teacher was not an ICES member...but I can't believe anyone doesn't know
of it who teaches classes!)...Try asking a state rep from your state
of from another state....SOME always attend these chats. I'm sure they
can tell you the name of your state rep, as well as about any 'happenings'
for your state also.
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Dolores777: look on your ices newsletter, for phone# 's to call for info.
They will be most happy to tell you.
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DPAULW: Momma try calling Karen Ramsey at 914-776 2650 shes a Florida rep,
but has USA list
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Dolores777: you can also visit the ices web site at: http://www.ices.org
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CarolA5238: Dolores, I had a problem with my cake sagging in the middle.
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Dolores777: It just wasn't done Carol...unless you added some additional
ingredients to the mix that confused the baking process? They have fantastic
cake photos on the ices web!
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AlcantD: Say Dolores777. Just a question here. What is the best brands
of pans we could use.?
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Dolores777: I use mostly Wilton, but we've even had Parrish make us some.
We had them make us a 'box of roses' pan. Parrish has odd size pans CarolA5238:
I like Wilton too. CakeCottag: I like Wilton
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DKaiser221: Dolores do you use a specific brand of cake mix?
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Dolores777: Duncan Hines mostly. But I also use Dawn in 50 # bags too
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AlcantD: I like Pillsbury
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CakeCottag: Betty Crocker is the BEST!
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Kittyba014: anyone in particular or all....(All - for me, (Dolores)
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DB4MB: Mutifoods, have you ever tried them, Dee? They make a very fine
grade white cake mix
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Dolores777: I did. but its who we can get it from good and fresh
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ILENE0617: ]I tried Multifoods....didn't like the flavoring they used in
mix
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Dolores777: I've tried altering flavors but I don't now
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Dolores777: I do like Dawn and we get raves
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EmThomas: Just have to brag, unusual cake-my dh is a nursing student, asked
me to do a cake with an anatomically correct cross section of the human
heart- ended up doing it free hand from a picture little ekg strip around
the sides
*Easter Bonnet Cake* (Just read carefully before attempting.
Its simple)
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1 Yellow cake mix
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2 pks (4 oz ea) Lemon flavor JELL-O
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4 Eggs
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1 cup Water
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1/4 cup Vegetable oil
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11/2 cup Cold milk
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3 1/2 cup COOL WHIP; thawed (8 oz)
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2 2/3 cups BAKER'S ANGEL FLAKE Coconut
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Ribbon made of rolled fondant (optional)
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See Gumdrop Flowers below.
Combine pudding cake mix, eggs, water & oil in large bowl. Beat at
low speed of electric mixer just to moisten, scraping sides of bowl often.
Beat at medium speed 4 mins. Measure 3 1/4 cups batter; pour into greased
& floured 1 1/2 qt metal or ovenproof glass bowl. Pour remaining batter
into greased & floured 12" pizza pan. Bake at 350 for 15 mins for the
pan & 50 mins for the bowl or until cake tester comes out clean. Cool
cakes 10 mins. Remove from pan & bowl; finish cooling on racks. If
necessary, cut thin slice from flat end of bowl-shaped cake so that it
will lie flat; split horizontally into 3 layers. Pour milk into small bowl.
Add remaining pkg of pudding mix. Beat with wire whisk until blended, 1
to 2 mins. Place 12" cake layer on large serving plate or tray. Spread
layer with 1 1/2 cups of the whipped topping. Center bottom layer of bowl-shaped
cake on frosted layer; spread with 2/3 of the pudding. Add second layer;
spread with remaining pudding. Add top layer; forming the crown. Spread
remaining whipped topping over crown. Sprinkle coconut over cake. Tie ribbon
around cake crown to form hat band & bow & garnish with Gumdrop
Flowers, if desired. Chill until ready to serve. Makes about 16 servings.
**Gumdrop flowers: 1. Flatten gumdrops with rolling pin on surface or sheet
of waxed paper sprinkled with sugar. Roll until very thin (about 1/16"
thick), turning frequently to coat with sugar. 2. Hold flattened gumdrop
at center; overlap edges slightly to give petal effect, pressing piece
together at base to resemble flower. For open blossom, bend gumdrop petals
outward from center. Insert small piece of gumdrop in centers with wooden
pick, if desired. Use wooden pick to attach flowers to cake if necessary.
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Dolores777: I've seen these gum drop flowers at ices...they are quite nice
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CarolA5238: Dolores, you can make a rose out of gum drops too, right?
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Dolores777: Yes, but don't expect perfection
CUPCAKE EASTER BASKETS: Spread frosting over sides &
top of cake making a slight mound on top to form a nest shape. Sprinkle
tinted coconut evenly over top of cake; pat lightly to secure. Fill center
evenly with assorted candies. 12 to 16 servings. Handle: We carry small
plastic handles that are perfect size. OR, you can use bent pipe cleaners.
EKiser: Dee I used a grass tip instead of coconut for the cupcakes
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MamaRugRat: Yes and cookies and two bunny cakes.
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FunLearner: We're making a panoramic egg...
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DONNKIM: Thinking of hollow eggs this weekend
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Lhamby7231: Yes, I use the candy molds from Wilton
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JPine52625: doing the lamb cake
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Dolores777: We're making panoramas too
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DONNKIM: also using candy molds for butter on Easter Sunday
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CarolA5238: I 'm making bunny pops with the new wilton molds for easter.
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CKATHYNOT: I love that idea of using candy molds for butter. Can't wait
to try it
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DB4MB: I would use that idea if I had Southwest decor........
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DB4MB: Dee, can you recommend a cake idea for a elegant housewarming?
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Dolores777: A house cake I would say...OR I made a teepee and wrote "happiness
is a new teepee" with 2 little Indians...so cute and added marzipan fruits
MamaRugRat: Wilton had a cute house warming cake idea in one of its yearbooks.
It was a dalmatian holding a letter in its mouth showing the new address.
ANNOUNCEMENT: OHIO IS HAVING A SPECIAL 6-STATE <<OH,
IN, IL, KY, MI, PA>> ICES 'DAY OF SHARING' ON APRIL 26 & 27 IN COLUMBUS
AT THE MAKER'S MARK HOTEL. 20 sugar art demonstrations and a Saturday night
"round robin." There will be vendors there to supply you with all your
decorating needs. SIGN UP EARLY AND ITS CHEAPER! Also included in your
registration is dinner on Saturday and a luncheon on Sunday. <<COST
& CHOICES>>: Full Weekend - $70.00 - One Day - $45.00 ---I'LL BE DEMOING
A WEDDING CAKE FROM ASSEMBLY THROUGH DECORATING IT..ALL. WE HAVE SEVERAL
OUT-OF-STATE TEACHERS COMING. YOU'LL LEARN A LOT! (YOU ARE WELCOME EVEN
IF YOU AREN'T FROM ONE OF THESE STATES TOO. FOR MORE INFO: EMAIL: DCrand7897
...OR CALL Ohio ICES Representative Caroline Haney at (216)641-0257
In the midst of posting the DOS, I was kicked off aol
and never could log back on, sorry folks, it couldn't be helped. I must
thank DONNKIM for saving her log so I can continue below.
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LfaChef: any know where I can down load some master cook recipes?
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(From Dolores) Try my food links from my web site. I saw one someplace
and was all the format they had. I wasn't looking for it, so I have no
idea where. I use Meal Master.
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EmThomas: Cakes, I will be doing it with a 12" round, thinking of using
a loaf pan for the bathtub
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Cakestmper: I used the mini egg pan for tub, smaller bell for shower CarolA5238:
EVer make a baby cradle with the mini egg pan.
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SUSPIRO2: Hello, Never have done a stacked cake, which is better frosting
before or after stacking
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Cakestmper: Frost stacked cakes first, before stacking
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(From Dolores)...Put the layers for each tier together with frosting or
filling between them, then definitely frost before stacking...also IMPORTANT
for stacked cakes - Wrap cardboards all in foil top and bottom, so they
won't soak up grease from the icing...OR the cake will appear lop-sided
as it sets awhile. AND....be sure you lay a circle of plastic-wrap down
before placing the cake above so icing won't pull off when cake is disessembled!
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DONNKIM: How do you make the gumballs so iridescent? Where do you get powdered
irr. ?
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(From Dolores) We carry this. Actually it is used more for gum paste.
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Cakestmper: I used the powder iridescent painted on with vodka, used 3
hand fulls.
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DONNKIM: yes, it is cute but very small on too large a cake Lhamby7231:
painted on with vodka?
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DONNKIM: What does the vodka do besides add moister, Good flavor I assume?
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Cakestmper: its used for gumpaste, you mix the powder with vodka, the alcohol
evaporates
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CarolA5238: Look in the 1991 yearbook for bunny cars, they are fun to make.
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CakeCottag: How much do you sell the bunny cars for?
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CarolA5238: I sell for 1.oo for the lg. and .50 cents for the sm.
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MamaRugRat: DB4MB: The Dalmatians cake is in the 1996 Wilton book in the
Valentine's Day section. He's dressed up as a special delivery dog. MomaB14:
Speaking of Dalmatian, have you all seen the Disney 101 Dalmatian pan that
Wilton put out-- it is not in the yearbook
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DONNKIM: Gotta watch doing copy written cakes and selling them
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MamaRugRat: Edible Images are safer.
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Cakestmper: Here's a quick Easter treat. We dipped the marshmallow bunnies
in chocolate, added
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Cakestmper: the eyes, and a sugar egg lay-on You can put them on a sucker
stick, and the bunny shape is good
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JPine52625: ca also dip in candy melts or and other brand of coating
chocolate
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MamaRugRat: Does anyone know why Wilton sells cake boards, but no boxes
to go with them?
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(From Dolores) Thats because your postage would be too high...or theirs
if they charge a flat fee. You can usually get those locally.
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Matho89979: I can get to the web page but can't view anything
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(From Dolores)...BEWARE THAT IF YOU FLUB UP AND CHOOSE THE WRONG
VIDEO, YOU CANNOT GO BACK INTO WINDOWS UNTIL AFTER YOU GO <BACK> TO
Windows Setup AND CHANGE TO A GOOD DRIVER! You can always safely change
back to VGA.
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Just a guess...if NO pictures show...it is probably because you have not
allowed enough colors to be configured in your Windows Setup. (I think
you must have 256 colors enabled before you see graphics in Windows.....
If you are using a driver which allows 256 colors, it will be so noted
beside the driver chosen. On most systems today, you are likely to have
a driver which allows 256 colors...even in 8 bit. I use 24 bit with the
video card I have and Windows 95...must have Win95 to use 24 bit. It is
best to choose the monitor driver (of the video card) for the video card
you are using, rather than plain VGA also.
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To change video using Windows 3.1, exit Windows and go to a DOS prompt.
Next. Do cd/ if you are in any directory other than Windows. If you are
at c:>/ prompt only, you need to type: cd windows then type Setup. This
brings you to the screen to reconfigure your choices. In other words, you
must be in your Windows directory. This is where the Setup file resides.
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TO DO: Arrow down/up to Video Display (from the list). Press Enter. You
will see all the video drivers that already exist on your system. You may
need your book which came with your video CARD to know which driver is
compatible. Arrow down to the driver you wish to use and press Enter. This
will re-configure your system to using this driver. If though,
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YOU HAVE Windows 95, go to Control Panel, then Display...and choose the
proper Video Driver. ...may need your Windows disk OR the disks that came
with your video card. ONLY drivers for YOUR monitor will work!
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NOTE: You need to display "256 colors" to see most graphics. Pwd
sugar had this problem, but she uses a Mac. I gave her some "PC" hints
and she figured it out...IF you have a Mac.
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