April 10, 1997 - Topic: "It's Show Time! - how
to make a fake cake - learn some new tricks and share your tips and techniques
with cake decorators from all around the nation!"
Cake dummies are fake cakes. There are three kinds of styrofoam dummies.
If you are going to stick things into the dummy cake the regular porous
styrofoam is much better.
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1. Is the little fused beads.
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2. Regular porous styrofoam.
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3. Sponge-like, such as used in couch cushions - don't get this kind. (its
hard to work with).
Pricing: if asked to include a fake cake instead of a real one in a wedding
cake (or as a joke), remember that it costs considerably more than a real
cake. So if I need to make a cake bigger than the customer needs for the
servings, i charge the same per serving and include the Dummy 'servings'
as if it was cakes. The decorating takes the time and it will take you
every bit as long. If you ice it with buttercream, be sire to cover first
with plastic wrap. Otherwise, you can't use it again. (remains of icing
will become rancid). We carry dummies in many Sizes/shapes -round, rectangle,
heart-shaped etc.
Covering: when making fake cakes for display purposes, first cover the
styrofoam cake dummy with plastic wrap. Or, "shrink-wrap" it with a hair
dryer (or a professional shrink-wrap machine). When the display cake gets
old, just hold over the trash can and -un-wrap- it; loosen The plastic
wrap and peel the icing off into the trash. I cover my cake dummies with
plastic wrap. (i have a shrink-wrap machine, so i can smooth out the wrinkles
in the plastic wrap by heating). Either way, stretch the plastic wrap tight
and use masking tape to secure the plastic wrap. Even if you just stretch
the plastic wrap tightly around the dummy, it is easy to remove when you
need to.
For display: ice with royal icing. For using along with real cake -
as with wedding cakes - use the same buttercream icing for all fake and
real cakes.
Real cakes instead of dummies: real cake <can> be used for display.
Bake the cake and coat with royal icing. After a while the cake underneath
will be dry and shriveled, but the icing remains in-tact just fine.
Icing a cake dummy: ice the same way as usual. But have the royal icing
pretty thin. Do the best you can with the spatula, let crust for several
minutes and pat gently wherever icing is not smooth. Also try using either
a smooth paper towel or a facial tissue for further Smoothing. If further
smoothing is necessary:
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1. 'putty' holes.
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2. Try scraping any ridges with a sharp knife.
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3. Try sanding it with fine sand paper. Sanding marks would be very unsightly,
so be sure to use very fine sand paper. Sanding a first coating then adding
a second coat may be best.
Notes:
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1. To remove royal icing from a dummy you did not first cover with plastic
wrap, try letting it set outside in the rain.
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2. Never add cream of tartar to the royal you use to ice the cake. It will
make the icing dry even harder!
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3. Putty - in any damaging holes in styrofoam With royal icing. It won't
s how if you are careful.
I found a great place to buy cake decorating books on
internet. Sunday, i ordered "bride's little book of cakes and toasts" by
the editors of bride's magazine. I got it today (thursday). It is full
of rolled fondant cakes. Some look like rosemary watson's style. They had
loads of cake decorating books. Their url is http://www.amazon.com i used
search words typed like this "cake decorating" (with the quotes). I also
ordered scott wooley's book not yet out. Will let you know how i like it.
Pwd Sugar: I have a video that Scott sent me of some of his work - fabulous
stuff
Ohio is having a 6-state ices day of sharing (dos) on april 26-27th.
Some of the demonstrators are: darlene horner, pa, dolores mccann (me),
rosemary watson, nj, millie green, in, gloria grffin, can, geraldine kidweel,
ky, susan larson, oh, geraldine randlesome, can, linda shonk, in. Lidia
snow, ky - all are listed in your buckeye bulletin newsletter - if from
ohio. I don't know what other states do to publicize.
Pwd Sugar: Louisiana is also having there BIG DOS the same weekend -
I will be going there Pwd Sugar: Texas will have one in the Dallas area
the next weekend Lin5326: Tx has one in Crowley on the 27th of April LBead93524:
Dee We have ices day this sunday here in Birmingham, AL. 4-12-97 folks,
sorry...too late now.
TAbor5352: WONDERFUL! i have downloaded some old chats today. Dolores,
did
Next week: tips and hints that make it easier - getting a head
start on mother's day cakes
Earlene's Part:
April 10, 1997 it's show time "How to make a fake cake - what can
you put in the inside of a fake cake? Cardboard circles, rice krispies
mixed with royal icing, styrafoam dummies. What can you put on the outside
of fake cakes? Anything
First I like to cover the fake cake with a tight wrapping of saran wrap
or some other kind of plastic wrap. This makes cleaning up the dummies
much easier. They are expensive so take care of them. When you put the
icing directly on the dummy - it can never really be clean again - it will
always have some icing residue on it. Once the dummy is wrapped tightly
with plastic wrap - i usually put a thin coat of icing to fill in dents
and smooth the surface as necessary. Hint - if you are using a styrafoam
dummy - stick a fork into the bottom of the dummy and then ice. They are
so lightweight if you ice them like regular cakes you may be chasing them
around the table. Now you are ready to ice with buttercream, royal, fondant
or the fake icings. One fake icing is called permaice. When it dries the
cake can be washed off under the faucet and dried and put back out on display.
I have also been told that spackling compound works great on dummy cakes.
I still haven't personally tried that yet. Bit, i have seen show cakes
that were done with the spackling compound and they looked great. One was
a large 5 tier wedding cake with a multitude of pink roses. That decorator
just tossed that cake around like it was a toe sack. I thought she was
going to ruin it. She just laughed at me and said that particular cake
was decorated a couple of years before and she had handled it roughly at
first just to see how much abuse it would take. Amazingly it was still
beautiful
Borntobbq: can't eat styrofoam Pwd Sugar: If we used real cakes for
a cake show it would be very wasteful besides heavy Pwd Sugar: You would
not want to eat a cake that people had coughed and sneezed on for several
days
I thought you might like to know some of the things that judges at cake
shows look for.
From a judges viewpoint..........
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1. Instant eye appeal...... At first glance does the sugar piece make you
want to look longer and really check it out. Is it outstandingly beautiful,
clever or cute.
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2. Difficulty of technique........ Some techniques are harder to do than
others. If you are a beginner and you do a nice even star fill in design,
that is acceptable. If you are in the master category and do a nice neat
star fill in design - it will probably rate low as far as difficulty of
technique.
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3. Skill in execution of design ........ How well you executed the techniques
used in your cake or sugar design. Sometimes a very simple - extremely
well done cake is the outstanding design at a show. If it only has three
techniques used that may influence how high it rates - because it is more
difficult to do 6 techniques extremely well over 3 techniques.
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4. Proportion of the display...... An example - a three tiered wedding
cake in sizes 6, 8 and 10 inch round will make a very straight up and down
tiered cake. Better sizes might be 12, 9 and 6 or a 14, 10 and 6. If you
are doing a life size golf ball - is the grass in proportion to the ball.
If you are doing a flower arrangement - 127 roses on a 6 inch cake may
look to large. 104 roses might be more proportionate for a 6 inch cake.
The judges will look at all of your proportions in all of the displays.
They will consider the size and placement of flowers, figures, writing,
size of cakes and even gingerbread dimensions.
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5. Neatness...........it is so important to be as neat as possible in all
of your work. Shells the same size all the way around. Icing very smooth.
Stars all the same size. All designs neatly finished - no long points sticking
up in the air. 6. Presentation of your display..... The covering on the
board under the cake should be very neatly done. You can use fabric, feathers,
sea shells and etc. Around and under the cake to accent and make a better
presentation of your sugar art. Does the covering on the cake board coordinate
with the design on the cake
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7. Creativeness........ A copy of a cake out of a book - is not being creative.
Judges look for original ideas.
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8. Choice of colors........this is one area that is really a matter of
personal likes and dislikes in your designing. But, if a judge does not
like the colors you chose - you may not get top marks. It is a personal
thing with each of us. I personally am not drawn to cake designs in very
bright colors. For instance a two layer round cake iced in bright lemon
yellow with orange and blue flowers with leaf green leaves. It screams
at me to get out eh sun glasses. Even if that cake is beautifully executed
i have a hard time getting past those colors. (last weekend i had a birthday
cake to do that was an underwater scene with fish all over it and lots
of color - it was fun and in that context all of the color was attractive)
just make sure your design warrants the use of strong colors.
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9. Attention to detail........ Was the royal icing too soft when the borders
were made and they sort of look melted? Did the person take the time to
do hand painting and coloring on gumpaste flowers and leaves. Detail is
what makes an outstanding show cake.
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10. Overall proficiency......... Are all of the techniques used on the
cake well done? Is the buttercream work beautiful but, the gumpaste flower
petals are too thick? This is really getting down to the nitty gritty -
sometimes the magnifying glasses are even used. Sometimes judges have real
difficulty deciding which Cake or sugar piece deserves the higher placement.
Then they start looking for something that is wrong. In the master's area
this is done frequently. After all these people are the best. They should
have enough experience to almost do perfect entries. Beginner or intermediate
categories usually don't require such intense scrutiny.
Cake shows are a place to learn from other decorators. If feel very strongly
that a cake decorators goal should not be to win the best ribbons. A better
goal should be to educate the public about what can be done in sugar. -wow
them. <<if we don't educate the public to know what can be done -
they will never be willing to pay for the fun wonderful creative work.
You are sharing a design that you have done with other cake decorators
and also learning from all of the other designs that other cake decorators
have brought to the show. Learn from one another. Don't be just a taker
and go the the show to learn. If possible take an entry to share your creativity
with the other cake decorators and the public. when i begin working on
a new design for a cake show, I like to try new things, play and just have
fun. This is my place to stretch my skills. Get creative and see what happens.
Its fun at the show when you hear the comments. Some shows require that
novelty / shaped cakes are made from real cake. A friend of mine in austin
does wonderful novelty cakes. Its fun when you hear people walking by say
- that can't be real cake! It looks like a real prickly pear cactus (or
eagle or fish or etc.) I wonder how they did that. Or aren't those silk
flowers on that cake or that ivy can't be sugar. - sometimes i wish i was
a mouse with a tape recorder.
Do enter the cake shows in your area if you have opportunity.
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CAKESUP: How about sheet cakes at weddings. I don't do
them.
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DragoDan: me neither - the slices look too different
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Dolores777: sheet cakes CAKE? I don't LIKE to do them, but do sometimes.
I suggest a groom's cake instead - so it can match the wedding cake but
supplement too. People will try NOT to eat sheet cake. They want layer
cake
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Pwd Sugar: SHEET CAKES FOR WEDDINGS - I DON'T LIKE THEM EITHER
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CreAteCak: How much do you charge for the different round cakes for grooms
cakes??
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Dolores777: same price as the wedding cake here
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Pwd Sugar: Washing them takes lots of time....... After you take a chisel
to get the old icing off Pwd Sugar: My prices are listed also - if they
want cheap they can go to one of the bakeries
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CreAteCak: with the strawberries, how expensive can that get for a grooms,
I'm clueless for rounds for grooms cakes...
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Pwd Sugar: If a grooms cake has basketweave on the sides I charge 2.75
per serving with the chocolate dipped strawberries it is 3.75 per serving
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CAKESUP: Bridesand Moms try to go cheap. Ask price of sheet and then wedding
cake.
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Pwd Sugar: Price on all cakes depends on time and if you have extra expenses
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Pwd Sugar: such as strawberries dipped in chocolate
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Dolores777: I don't care HOW cheap they are. My prices are firm - and listed
in my album : )
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DragoDan: dee ifound royal made with egg whites takes longer to harden
than pwd whites
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Dolores777: but is much stronger Drago
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Pwd Sugar: Royal made with egg whites may take longer to harden but it
will stay pretty longer because it will dry harder
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DragoDan: true if i have ice ilike that best
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CAKESUP: Yes the egg royal is stronger but it also has a odor forever
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Dolores777: add some flavoring CAKE
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Pwd Sugar: If you use lemon juice in it - it has a nice flavor and smell.
Not oil flavoring CAKESUP
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Dolores777: I know someone who uses spackling paste - she says it is the
very same as Permaice. You can make jewlry with permaice and tiny tips
even Caknbak: Were the roses made with spackling compound also?
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Pwd Sugar: Yes the roses were made with spackling compound to - I saw lace
points made with it and that decorator said people brought them back and
she reused them. I personally would be afraid someone would eat them
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DragoDan: biggest challenge this year was asked to do a 13 foot dummy for
main ballroom
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DragoDan: did it with a little help from a carpenter
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Dolores777: made your own setup material Drago?
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Dolores777: Square Drago?
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DragoDan: lower two tiers out of wood
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Dolores777: we are REALLY lucky to have Pwd -- who judges shows!
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Pwd Sugar: I noticed in the last Cake Decoration magazine out of England
that they were
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Pwd Sugar: working on wooden round dummies - they were beautiful wood
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DragoDan: yup bottom 38" sq 2nd 24"sq
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DragoDan: dee is pwd talking about compotition?
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Dolores777: Yes competition - she judges cake shows and SHE knows
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NJSTCHR: dee.. where do these shows take place?
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Dolores777: In various cities - where are you?
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DragoDan: upstateny
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Dolores777: Drago:::you should really be near shows. But I'm in S.OH and
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Dolores777: If you are a member of ICES, you might find out through your
state rep. Visit the ICES web site for info. Here is their web site: http://www.ices.org
- You should just see the ICES show then Drago! It is something - yes in
a mall
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NJSTCHR: shows sound wonderful. are they open to public?
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(From Dolores): Yes, mostly, cake shows in malls are open to the public.
When you walk into a mall, the cakes will usually be on display.
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Lin5326: How do you know what catagory you would be in?
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Dolores777: At ICES there aren't categories, they place states together
is all no judging. Mall shows are judged. You read the show rules and place
yourself where the rules best discribe your level of expertise. NEVER go
higher, because if you win, you must go to the next level up. You may not
be ready for this. Categories are usually: Children, Beginners, Intermediate,
Professional...maybe also Bakers or maybe Masters too.
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Pwd Sugar: Cake shows are a great help in refining your skills Pwd Sugar:
If you go the the ICES web site you can see some of the cakes - these are
NOT judged
============== THE NEXT PART IS ALL ABOUT THE UPCOMMING ICES SHOW AND CONVENTION
AT ORALANDO IN AUGUST. This may seem early to some folks, but it really
isn't. I understand the main hotel or two are already booked. As you will
see below, there is a very early deadline for registration also. This is
so the officials can organize eveything and be ready for you. This takes
a lot of time.
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CAKESUP: I wanted to make chocolate as a display in Aug. Was hoping it
would help keep them nice.
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Pwd Sugar: OH - That may be hard to transport and keep looking nice
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Pwd Sugar: We were in Florida after the GA show and between the humidity
and heat it was awful
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NRJCAKE: Dolores, do you think that the Sunday night of sharing at the
Convention is worthwhile?
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Dolores777: OH YES!
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CAKESUP: You get use to the weather. It takes a year or so for peoples
blood to thin down,
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SWhittClk: Pwd, do most decorators enter fake cakes?
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NRJCAKE: Dolores, should we bring tips, icing, etc?
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Dolores777: Easiest to bring fake cakes SWh
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Pwd Sugar: If you take it over in the evening - you should be alright -
put it in a cooler chest maybe
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Dolores777: The cake hospital will have tips, but I'd bring anyway - favorites
at least
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SWhittClk: How can I find out about entering shows?
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NRJCAKE: Dolores, is that night of sharing lead by someone with a particular
program in mind?
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NRJCAKE: I booked a room at the Port Orleans because the Contemporarty
was booked.
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Lin5326: ICES newletter (April) had some other hotel deals available in
Orlando
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Dolores777: Deadline to sign up for the convention the cheapest is June
1, right Pwd?
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Pwd Sugar: Right - Register as soon as possible
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NRJCAKE: Does the night of sharing have a structured program?
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(From Dolores) No - demonstrators will be sitting at tables and you can
move from one to the other as you choose. This may give you opportunities
to see some demoes where you had conflictions.
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Pwd Sugar: No structure on the night of sharing - just wonder around and
learn all you can
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NRJCAKE: Dolores, do people bring fake cakes to work on at the night of
sharing?
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Dolores777: You usually don't bring cakes here. Just mill around and share
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Pwd Sugar: If you are demoing on Sun night - you get horse - I usually
do the same thing at
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LeonaClowr: Night of sharing is outstanding.
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KevinF103: have to look for it
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Pwd Sugar: least 8 times one right after the other
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CAKESUP: It would be great if we on liners could meet at the convention
on Thursday nite at 9:00.
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Pwd Sugar: There is a tour scheduled at the same time - but we are giving
that some thought
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EMILRO: What is this convention?
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Pwd Sugar: International Cake Exploration Societe - with over 4000 members
-A week of non stop learning - Yes - because of the traveling - the weight
is much better for handling. Most people do bring fake cakes
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CAKESUP: I saw the Fl sugar display for the convention. Boy was I WOWED.
Unbelievable, Fabulous
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Pwd Sugar: If you are using special tips or equipment - take those - they
will have icing and
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Dolores777: Lighter, easy and don't change colors Pwd Sugar: regular stuff
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CAKESUP: (If you can't attend the entire convention,) You can come on Sunday
and just see the cakes for a small fee.
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NRJCAKE: Dolores, when do we sign up for the Convention classes?
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(from Dolores)---I expect the classes will be listed in an ICES newsletter
in the next month or two. Watch for it and sign up THAT VERY DAY...if you
want good choices!
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LeonaClowr: Sugar chemist here at Amalgamated sugar says they are the same,
99.9% sucrose
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LeonaClowr: Speaking of cane sugar. Does anyone really know about the difference?
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Chefchk: No difference between cane or beet really, cane is slightly purer.
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Dolores777: I think - for cakes - that the 'grinding' is more important.
I can get 12x p.sugar sometimes
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Dolores777: great for the fine work we do - like 'curtains
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