Thursday, August 7, 1997 at 9 PM ET in the Kitchen
Conference Room -- "The basics of baking and decorating cakes"
EARLENE'S
PAGE - NEW! Pwd sugar just sent me several photos of some of her
cute all-occasion cakes. With all these and the ones I already have, look
for a NEW page just to show you her fabulous cakes NOW
Pwd sugar and several more AOL members are away at the ICES convention
this week having the time of their lives - of course! Aren't we jealous!
You won't want to miss next week's chat. This will be the week, more than
any other all year, when we will find out about new products, trends, tips,
techniques...and (swoon) the latest cake decorating books.
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Some of you may not even know what ICES IS...International Cake Decorating
Societe' is what ICES stands for. It is for any man, woman or child interested
in the art of cake decorating.
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On the web: http://www.ices.org <<>> ices members make it a success
by our free sharing of ideas.
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This year the convention is starting TODAY. It is in the Disney World hotel
IN Disney World. You CAN still register at the door through (probably)
Friday. Registration is about $100.00. (I don't know exactly). OR you can
come just on Saturday OR Sunday to view the cake room only. (I am not certain
of which day the public is allowed in, but it is usually Sunday.)
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You CANNOT get into any other area unless you pay the entire registration
fee.
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ALL ices members have phone numbers and addresses included in each month's
newsletter so that they can contact someone on the show committee if they
need help. The convention is wonderful.
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There will be a cake show - but no judging...over 1,000 cakes, many by
masters around the world. Also, there will be rooms with several seminars
going on for 4 days, authors with their books for sale, retail and wholesale
vendors with new and interesting supplies for sale, banquets and the nicest
friendliest people you will ever meet. We'll be waiting for next week to
hear all about it.
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BRAT 583: Has anyone from ICES checked in to give us the latest scoop?
Pardon the pun........
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Faline369: This is my first time at ICES convention. It's going great!
Can't wait to go back in the morning.. The cake harbor doesn't open until
tomorrow....vendors also. But there were over 2000 people registered by
this afternoon.
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CreAteCak: Is this your first time Faline?
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Faline369: Yep...my first. I went to first-timers orientation this morning...they
expected about 30 people...150 showed up!
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Dolores777: did you meet Earlene yet faline???????????????
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Faline369: I haven't seen her yet Delores...but I will be looking. I think
- AOL'ers are meeting tomorr
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Dolores777: Pwd sugar sent me her photo and I'll be putting it on my web
site soon...not soon enough
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Dunkccc: Have you bought many goodies yet Faline?
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Faline369: Dunk...the vendors don't open until tomorrow at Noon...after
opening ceremonies..
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Faline369: I anticipate spending big bucks, tho! CreAteCak: What is a "reasonable"
(is there any) to take to convention $$$ wise I mean?
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Dunkccc: Oooh, are you going to be in cake decorators heaven!
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Dolores777: $1,000.00 is good
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Dolores777: that would include room, food and goodies
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CreAteCak: Oh my Goodness!!! Do they take PLASTIC????
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Faline369: 2,000....wow! Good thing I live close enough to drive home at
night...rather than pay hotel
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CreAteCak: Can you imagine trying to get all that back home with you? Do
they mail stuff to you?
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Dolores777: sure they mail...once I bought so much my brother stayed to
make sure they let me on the plane with my 2 extra bags LOL true!
TOPIC: "The basics of baking and decorating cakes"
RECIPES - I want to let you know that all the recipes are already available
on my web site. Go there and choose 'RECIPES' Then choose ICING RECIPES...there
are a lot of these. My web site: http://w3.one.net/~proicer/index.html
THE 'BASICS' - what are they really...having a love of baking and art
work I suppose...THEN perfecting that to any degree you want. Probably,
when you first start out, you intend to just do cakes for family and friends.
You have no idea what fabulous things are possible in the world of Sugar-art.
Anywhere from a small round birthday cake to a life-size sculpture in 3-D
of Marilyn Monroe...and maybe buildings you can eat.
THERE IS NO END TO WHAT YOU CAN LEARN IN CAKE DECORATING. This is what
makes it so interesting and fun. Maybe you think you aren't artistic -
but that may be because you just haven't tried much art work. When you
begin, it is super important to read any material you can get thoroughly.
Your Wilton Year Book is a good basic book to start with. Learn to bake
- THEN - learn to decorate. And the SECRET is -. The more times you make
a rose, the better and easier it becomes. There is no other way. Also,
understanding your icing and the consistency. Which icing will do what,
etc. is also important.
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Dunkccc: How long till you get comfortable doing a rose. I still want to
pull my hair out!
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Dolores777: when you've made 500 dunk
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DaffyDayto: i think you're right...i think it took me 500
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Dolores777: true dunk...500 at once : )
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Dolores777: also, many times a little more crisco helps beginners
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DaffyDayto: don't use off-brand shortening
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Dolores777: NEVER use any off-brand...so right - takes twice as much -
off brand shortening
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DaffyDayto: it doesn't stand up in the heat
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BRAT 583: Dee, please share with us about what you know about the spoons,
sounds like good Christmas spoon
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Dolores777: chocolate spoons?
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BRAT 583: Yes, on your websirw, candy for coffee...
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Cman1313: spoons can be bought
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Dolores777: BRAT::: I have told ALL about the spoons on my web site...go
to Mail order and find them next
START WITH A GOOD RECIPE - I have a very good cake recipe on my web site
under RECIPES called LANE CAKE (with photo). This is a very good scratch
cake to learn on. It teaches you the procedure of putting the cake together
from mixing through baking in a very detailed way. It is a lesson in itself
just making this cake. A very good recipe for a beginner. I've made this
cake many times.
BAKING: You can't decorate a cake until you learn how to bake it! So
- start out with a box-mix or a recipe you know works. (And continue to
use the same brand of mix so you learn what to expect). Beat the cake exactly
according to directions. Time the mixing carefully. Baking time varies...
TEST by touching the cake lightly in the center of it. It the cake BARELY
springs back up - it is done....DON'T EVER OVER-BAKE. Over-baking causes
flavors to bake out and makes the cake dry and tasteless...NO MATTER HOW
GOOD THE RECIPE WAS! Let the cake cool in the pan for at least 10 minutes.
Cooling in the pan longer is better for large cakes (like 12 to 16" ect.)
LEVELING: I always turn the cakes out upside-down with BOTTOMS-UP. But
the cake MUST NOT have a hump on it! To make it perfectly flat, ...as soon
as I remove the cake from the oven I lay a dish towel on it and press air
out until the cake is flat. This WILL NOT work if you have over-baked it
(even a little bit). The cake will just spring right back up. Then you
must use a serrated-edged knife to shave the hump off. When cakes are VERY
humped... your oven was too hot. Turn it down at least 20-25 degrees and
see if this helps. Once you've shaved off the hump, use the cake pieces
along the outer edge to build the cake more level still. Even if I don't
need to shave off a hump and the cake is fairly flat, I STILL may shave
off along the outer edge. You will want your top-work-surface to be nice
and flat. It is also easier to ice a flat cake top. Using the Magic Cake
Strips while baking will help greatly, to make your cakes level too.
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Dunkccc: This is after you pressed it down and leveled it with the towel?
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YES - press it down with the towel, let cool in pans 10-15 minutes. Turn
cake out and cool completely. Put the 2-layers together and leave set overnight
for layers to sttle against each other firmly.
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ONYX1955: I did a 3-d panda cake and it made a big mess in my oven
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DaffyDayto: i've had good luck with 3-D's. Usually I use a pound cake
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Dunkccc: Make your panda with a cookie sheet under it--mine made a mess
on the sheet.
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Dolores777: ONYX...did you tie the pan tight together - using a string?
Tie it firmly so when the batter rises, it will push up into the top pan
without going all over your oven. It stands to reason...if a pan is full-to-the-top,
with batter, when it rises, it will run over if you let it.
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ONYX1955: yes, I put to much batter in it
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BRAT 583: Why don't you level it in the pan before you turn it out?
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Dolores777: that is what I do...
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CreAteCak: Use bake-even strips, I bought some and it REALLY makes a difference
to me!!
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DaffyDayto: I use strips on my pans...they work everytime
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Cman1313: the strips do work
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Dunkccc: I heard in a chat someone is making their own strips from terry
cloth they've sewn.
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DaffyDayto: I've done that before...it does work
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Dolores777: dunk:::that can be done...carefull they aren't fireproof like
the commercial strips
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Faline369: My grandma used to rip the bottoms off of old sweatshirts for
strips
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Dunkccc: I accidently fried new strips before--could've sworn they were
wet enough! The edges of the strips were black and charred! So mad! They
were brand new!
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Dolores777: imagine if they'd been terry cloth!
DISASTERS: Not leveling cakes accounts for the majority of disasters and
wedding cakes that fall over. (The other problem is not supporting them
correctly).
MAKING ICING: Icing is next in importance after BAKING. Basically we
use buttercream icing. It always contains shortening, conf. sugar, flavors
and liquid. Amounts can vary and other additions are possible. (My buttercream
icing is on my web page/RECIPES. So is Pwd sugar's and others besides.
Pwd and I know ours works well for us. These are our favorites). You see,
shortening (usually solid Crisco) is what makes our icing hold shape -
or 'gel'. Without enough shortening, the icing would just slide right off
the cake. The amount of shortening is also important. I have found that
I need from 3/4 cup to 1 1/2 cup. 3/4 is enough to make it hold shape.
But 1 1/2 cups adds enough shortening to take away some of the too-sweet
taste. But more than this is just plain 'greasy.' Greasy icing IS good
for practicing: 1 cup Crisco/2 lb conf. sugar/1 ts vanilla and 2-4 tb water.
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BRAT 583: What about the baker's shortening that comes in 40 lbs. only?
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Dolores777: I actually use Alpine brand baker's shortening
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Pies4me: Dolores - why does my choc. icing lose it shine after one day
on my choc. whiskey ball cookies. Can I prevent it for happening?
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JNMmccann: should you always sift the sugar
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CreAteCak: YES! Unless you want to get MAD when you have lumps!
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DaffyDayto: always...always...always sift your confectioner sugar!!!!
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Dolores777: sift if not using a com. mixer like Kitchen Aid OR also when
making fine decorations
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DaffyDayto: i have a Kitchen Aid and I still sift...makes a big difference
in my frosting
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SueMabel: I made the choc. leather the other day, Merckens & Karo,
and it went sooo limp in my hands-
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SueMabel: should I try adding more choc or less Karo? or something else??
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Dolores777: try handling less is the real key I was told Sue
FILLING: Spread icing or filling between the layers. Don't add the top
layer until both are cold. You can turn the top layer out on a plastic
wrap-covered cardboard to cool. I spread quite a bit of icing between the
layers. It isn't too much icing between the cakes that make the bulge....its
because there was a hump on the cake. After awhile the cake settles....gravity
says it MUST! When it settles the icing you iced the cake with bulges out.
This is why it is good to put the two layers together several hours before
spreading icing on it. It will have a chance to settle first.
COLORS: Other than getting your icing the right consistency, the other
problem many people have is trying to get the right colors. I have one
tip that should help you - When coloring, add food coloring to just a small
amount of icing. Mix it well. Then add as much of this icing to your batch
as needed for the perfect shade.
RED - (Not just red, but black, brown and others) is hard for some people
to make. The most important thing is that you have good food coloring with
high concentration of color pigment. I use the brand Baker's Preferred
and its a gel. (Yes, we do carry it in our shop). This coloring is really
easy to mix and doesn't thin the icing. Pri95: man the flowers that can
be made, they are so delicate
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Pri95: do you have a recipe for those kind of sugar flowers?
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CreAteCak: probably gumpaste? YES - gumpaste. Its right here on my web
site under RECIPES.
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Pri95: can you buy that or can you make it from scratch?
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CreAteCak: Wilton has a gumpaste mix and there are some recipes here.
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Pri95: I would like the recipe if you are willing to share please?
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(From Dolores') My gumpaste recipe is on my web site under RECIPES
RED: The red is SO red that you will need to stop 2 shades lighter than
you want so that it won't turn too red. (Icing darkens as it sits awhile
after it is colored. It would be nice if you colored your icing a day or
so before using it.) In mid-May we also talked a lot about colors. You
might want to review that chat.
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Pies4me: What about Wilton paste colors? I never get a true red.
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DaffyDayto: in the wilton,,,i use red red
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JNMmccann: make your red day before, it will help
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(From Dolores') We carry Baker's Preferred brand and it works better.
BROWN: For making a lot of brown icing, you may want to simply make it
chocolate. I make chocolate icing by adding Hershey's powdered cocoa to
my white buttercream until it is dark chocolate. Then I thin it with milk
or water.
ICE THE ENTIRE TOP: For icing the entire cake a deep color, I ice the
cake white first. Then I add dabs of colored icing around on the top. Then
I smooth it out. This way I don't use nearly as much food coloring to achieve
the very same results and my customers won't have the blue mouth so bad
either.
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Dunkccc: Is this a crumb coat?
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Dolores777: i crumb coat as I go...I don't crumb coat, then go back later
like most people do
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Marlene jo: do you let the icing set for a while before decorating
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Dolores777: never...causes lumpy mess Marlene. That is the main reason
i don't leave it set...besides handling the cake twice.
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Marlene jo: oh i thought it was easier to handle
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Dolores777: easier if handled twice you mean? Marlene jo: no if the icing
set
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Dunkccc: I would love to know how in books--side of cake is two different
colors w/garlands.
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Dolores777: Dunk;;;could they be airbrushed? Dunkccc: Don't know, I think
they made a template and iced it that way. Looked hard to keep neat tho
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SLEEPLSCHF: My wedding cake was horrible it tasted like ciggs
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Dolores777: SLEEP::: cake absorbs cigarette smoke like chocolate does...shouldn't
smoke in the room while making at all...others sure can taste it
(Before our chat): MSBHildret: This is lovely... BROWN
SUGAR CUSTARD...
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Have 6 custard cups ready... Heat 1 cup of sugar in a 10" skillet over
medium heat.. stir constantly until the sugar melts and becomes golden
brown.
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Don't worry about lumps...Keep stirring - they will melt.
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Immediately remove from heat and put 2 tsp of the sugar in each
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SOAK THE PAN RIGHT AWAY!
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Now, preheat your oven to 300F
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Place in a food processor
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1 large egg
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2 large egg yolks
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4 TB brown sugar
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2 tsp unsalted butter
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2 tsp vanilla extract
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Process until completely smooth.
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Divide amoung the custard cups.
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Place the cups in a deep pan and fill with enough hot water to come 3/4
of the way up the cups.
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Bake for 1 - 1 1/2 hours until the custard is set..
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When the custards are done, a knife will come out clean.
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Turn the custards out onto plate and serve at room temperature.
NEXT WEEK: August 14 and 21 - ICES convention report
- hear all about the cake decorators convention at Disney World. - NEW
items...We will fill you in. I hope we can get several members to participate
in this discussion. Especially the first timers that go to convention.
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