August 14, 1997- ICES convention report - hear
all about the cake decorators convention at Disney World. NEW items...We
will fill you in. I hope we can get several members to participate in this
discussion. Especially the first timers that go to convention?
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BEFORE OUR CHAT:
MSBHildret: I am going to end with
FIRST CLASS ANGEL FOOD CAKE
for Jimmy father who are walking with the angels, now. My grandmother
learned to make angel food cake by beating the eggs whites with two silver
forks... this is much easer...
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Preheat oven to 350F.
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In a large bowl using an electric mixer
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beat 12 egg whites
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As they get foamy
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add 1 1/2 tsp cream of tarter
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1 tsp vanilla. As the peaks form
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add 1 cup confectioners sugar and continue beating until the whites are
stiff.
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Fold in 1 cup ground almonds.
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Using a spatula, place the batter in a 9" tube pan with removable bottom..
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Bake for 45 min until a toothpick inserted comes out dry.
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Cook cake upside down until set. Remove gently from pan. Spoon your favorite
chocolate sauce or whatever over it.
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Nope, no flour... I didn't forget it...
ICES CONVENTION 97!
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Cakestmper: Belle was there, so was Pocahontas, and Ariel, and even Esmeralda
came to the Ball. Yes, I went, and didnt loose any glass slippers.
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CraLinPres: no prince then
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Cakestmper: Lots of princes, we had our choice
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Heatwaav: and definitely worth the trip...
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Pwd Sugar: Did you see Drucilla (the ugly step sister) at the ball?
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Cakestmper: We had an enchanted forest to walk thru, and a grotto for entrance
to the cakes. No, earlene, no ugly step sisters, just two guys dressed
up like women!
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How232: Did Walt Disney think beauty skin deep?
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Pwd Sugar: One guy that was Drucilla is from Texas and he had been teasing
us about his formal attire he would be wearing that night. We were all
surprised.But it is never dull with him around. Charles - Betty Gilmore's
husband
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Cakestmper: Didn't see Walt, but there were some chipmunks and a Goofy
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Dunkccc: I bet Ices at Disney was wonderful! I'm so jealous! How many were
there?
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Pwd Sugar: over 2000 registered plus spouses and children that were not
registered.
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Cakestmper: Almost 1,000, 920 cakes displayed. That's a record, you better
believe it!
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Pwd Sugar: New attendance record. Kentucky had 1600 several years ago
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Dolores777: wait til the yr 2,000!
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Dunkccc: Now you're broke this week, right?! lol
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Dolores777: Dunk:::you wouldn't care, you'd be too busy reading all the
books you bought LOL
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DaffyDayto: I can't wait till Minnesota...sorry I missed florida
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Pwd Sugar: I only bought 6 new books this year LOL
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Cakestmper: I got 5 books, and a great mug from disney that can be refilled
for free! What a value!
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Dunkccc: I've been looking at my new Winbeckler airbrushing most of the
afternoon.
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Cakestmper: Did winbeckler have stencils, I didnt see any where I was at.
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Dunkccc: Yes, I wish I had gotten the accompanying stencil pattern book
for it too. Did you have it?
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Cakestmper: I wish I had gotten the stencil book, didn't see it.
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Dunkccc: Darn, wish I had known--would have got it while I was there.
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Dolores777: oh well- theres next time...give you an excuse to come see
me : )
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Dunkccc: The patterns he did in this book are simply incredible--gotta
have the pattern book too!
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Pwd Sugar: It was a pattern book you could make the stencils from - I never
buy the pattern
TOPIC: ICES convention report - hear all about the cake decorators convention
at Disney World. NEW items...We will fill you in. I hope we can get several
members to participate in this discussion. Especially the first timers
that go to convention?
Have you all seen Pwd sugar's picture and goodies from my web site yet?
Go to my site: http://w3.one.net/~proicer/index.html and click on EARLENE'S
PAGE. A tribute to a great lady! (MAYBE the picture doesn't work! I
will fix it as soon as I have time. Bare with me, my brother is seriously
ill right now. It may be a bad week for me.)
As some of you know already, I wasn't able to attend this year's ICES
show. (I will be there next year). I hear from Pwd sugar, that they have
big plans for us. They want us to demo a chat at the show! LOL How do we
do that??? I have also heard from 2 of my friends who aren't AOL members
(and went). They thought they were in heaven! Both were first-timers and
can't wait for the next one. I don't even recognize some of the demonstrators...So
lets just sit back and enjoy!
By the way, Here is the ices web site URL. http://www.ices.org - If
you've never visited, you are in for a surprise. Look under NEWSLETTERS
to see some of the most fantastic cakes ever!
As I wasn't there, I will now turn this over to Pwd sugar and those
who were there. If there is time at the end I have a couple of items for
you. Otherwise, mine can easily wait until next week.
EARLENE'S PART
This years ICES convention was a tremendous success. Over 2000 cake
decorators registered for the convention. Over 2000 attended the banquet
on Saturday night. Around 1000 sugar pieces were brought by about 500 people.
The revised demo list added several demos to the already scheduled 85 demos.
If you still didn't have enough to fill your days - you could take the
monorail and run over to one of the Disney attractions. My family had planned
on spending three of our days at Disney - we got two.
The reason we didn't get more time with Disney things is that manpower
needed the help. Manpower is volunteers from the convention attendees who
help do all of the work at the convention. This year only 200 people total
volunteered to help with the manpower. It takes approximately 20 people
per hour to man all of the things going on such as people to man the vendor
doors, walk the cake room, man the demo doors, run the video cameras, help
with registration, give out demo tickets and etc. Several of us worked
many hours this year in order that everyone could have a great show. This
is one area you could really help with at next years convention. Just walk
up to the manpower booth and ask what you can do to help. Even if you only
have a couple of hours to give - that will help. They always have sign
up sheets for you to schedule where you want to volunteer. To really become
a part of ices- jump in here and volunteer - you will really get to know
the people who really work to make ices shows work for you.
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Cakestmper: Help in the cake hospital, too, don't forget me! Pwd Sugar:
Sorry
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Cakestmper - I did forget you need help to
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BRAT 583: What is cake hospital?????
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Pwd Sugar: The cake hospital is the room that we all go to when we get
to convention and something got damaged in transit. It is bandaged in the
cake hospital and then sent back to the display room
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Cakestmper: Many thanks to Shavkin, and hubby who gave lots of time to
registration!
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DaffyDayto: when is a good time to think about next year's convention...like
booking rooms and such
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LPatters10: do you really like to cook as much as I do
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Pwd Sugar: NOW Dolores777: sometimes there aren't enough rooms in the main
hotel
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Cakestmper: You can register NOW for next years convention
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DaffyDayto: I just sent in my application to ICES
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Dunkccc: Who were some of the bigger name vendors?
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DaffyDayto: where would I get info on where to book?
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Dolores777: Daffy:::at ices web site...or if you are a member, you will
get it mailed
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Pwd Sugar: I did bring registration papers home with me for next years
show. If you get your registration in before their early deadline you have
a chance to win $250 Anybody here who would like to tell us your viewpoint
of the ICES convention. Dolores I can scan the forms and send them to you
and then we can make them available to whoever wants them.
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PBCakeWalk: I attended 6 demos and had a wonderful time as a first timer.
Virginia Sears -demo - Hodge Podge of Helpful Hints was very good - many
tips.
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Pwd Sugar: MBF821: It is best to get into the host hotel to make your schedule
easy, and spare your feet. Dunkccc: Will ices have a video to sell of the
show?
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PBCakeWalk: The show cake was fantastic, unbelievable!The cake harbor was
unbelievable. My kids were simply amazed!!! Especially the show cake. The
show cake was made by Mercedes Strachwsky - "A Sugar Art Nature Walk Through
Florida" It represented endangered element of the state of Florida. Show
cake had lighthouse, cypress trees, Spanish moss, manatees, coral reefs,
crabs
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MBF821: I wonder how long it takes Mercedes to do a cake like her Harbor
exhibits.
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Bakerbear1: linda showed me the program cover w/the show cake...said it
was as big as my car---it looked
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Pwd Sugar: I think that show cake was the most fantastic piece of sugar
art I have ever seen in my life. I think it was about 8' in diameter and
so detailed that it just boggled my mind. I spent 2 hours down there by
myself with no one else around and looking at as much as my mind could
comprehend and still missed many of the details on it. Her husband came
in and asked me to step over the barrier and look at it closer and he pointed
out things I still had not seen. She spent 2 years on that cake - in her
air conditioned garage and it was an absolute masterpiece of sugar work.
Our show book has the ingredient and stuff listing in it under one of the
pictures. It was incredible. They wanted it as soon as they saw it. It
is incredible!
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Dolores777: when it boggles YOUR mind Pwd, it MUST be great!
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Cakestmper: Mercedes told me she does some while she fixes dinner, especially
the doll on pillow. Mercedes sweated bullets moving it into Disney, then
it rained that night, she was so glad she brought it in during the day.
She prefers pastillage to gum paste, used no molds or forms. Just pictures
and real life. Mercedes says it will be displayed at the Orlando Science
Center. I've seen the show cake up close, and still saw new things at convention.
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JanieBP: It truly was exquisite!
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SueMabel: Were you allowed to take pictures, Pwd?
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Dolores777: Sue:::they even set aside special times for picts
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Pwd Sugar: You can take all of the pictures you want to or can afford film
for.
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Dunkccc: ACD said they would have highlights of the ices convention when
I asked and e-mailed them.
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Cakestmper: Minnie Mouse and Mickey Mouse were there, we almost got them
signed up for ICES!
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SueMabel: All thats available around here is Wilton, Wilton, Wilton!!
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Dolores777: Sue:::what sells there are gumpaste/rolled fondant tools and
BOOKS. Daffy:::most of this isn't IN catalogs! It comes from all over the
world Cake Wmn: Daffy, Imade my reservations for hotel for next year today!
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MaraTLee: I didn't get to see anything, I was working for one of the vendors---boy,
was it wild!!!!
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Pwd sugar--tell me about the oven----
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Pwd Sugar: That booth had the confection ovens and they were in several
sizes for the various bakers needs. I have their name if you want info
from them
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Cake Wmn: Did anyone understand the way I did, need to register for convention
now to get to tour gen
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PBCakeWalk: Didn't go near those confection oven, way above my head. Glad
when my old oven dies so I can buy a new one.
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MBF821: I bought the foldable cart.
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Cakestmper: You can get a free registration if you send in 2000 Pillsbury
UPC's, info in reg packet
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Faline369: Better get those registrations in quick then...it's limited
to 250 people!
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Dunkccc: Huh, only 250 allowed for MN? Faline369: Only 250 allowed for
the General Mills tour, Dunk
MBF821: How many children attended? Pwd Sugar: about 10
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MaraTLee: Are any of the videos available---????????
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Pwd Sugar: Videos were not recorded - only used for visual in the demos.
They did make a video of the convention. But Disney limited them - they
could use none of the work with Disney characters on the cakes. They weren't
allowed to video those cakes.
New things at this years show Friday night the vendors demo showcase
Many of the vendors set up tables similar to the Sunday night sharing
and showed their special techniques or products with no selling allowed.
You could roam the room and check out the things that interested you. There
were also four demos in the demo rooms that were scheduled for the same
time period done by vendors such as Nicholas lodge and Geraldine Randlesome.
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MBF821: I liked Wilton's new tool caddy and the chocolate fondant.
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Pwd Sugar: I didn't see the new tool caddy - too much to see and too little
time
Hands on demos just for children No separation of the retail and wholesale
vendors -the name tags identified the shop owners and we were all allowed
to see all of the vendors.
Friday night after the vendors demos we had a get together for the AOL
chat people in a small sitting area near the escalators on the second floor
of the hotel. I think that we had about 12 - 15 there. I asked them to
be prepared to give you their impressions of the ices convention. What
they liked best and etc.
If you attended the convention and are prepared to give the rest your
input could you IM me so we can do this in some type of order. If we have
more than we can get in tonight we will just continue this next week if
that is all right with Dolores and the rest of you.
The following is an e-mail I received this week from one person who
was there and does not have access to AOL but picks up the chat info from
Dolores's web page
From Linda Rodin (cakebear@juno.com) As I told you, since I am not an
AOL subscriber, I only get to observe the chats after the fact - but I
love reading them and have learned so much from all of you.
This was my first ever ices convention - having only been a member since
October 1996, when Karen recruited me at my first teacher meeting. Of course,
the home state advantage made it easier to get to - but i'll travel however
far I need to for future ones - it's worth it. I do think that having been
able to listen in on the chat groups made it a little less intimidating
- since I already knew a few names to look for and tags to watch for. The
demos were great (although some of the titles were not terribly descriptive
of the actual topic) and the cake harbor and show cake were simply amazing.
Visiting the vendor area was like being a kid in a candy shop - and did
I shop. But the thing that stands out most in my mind about the trip were
the people. Everyone was so caring and friendly - I made a ton of friends
in those 4 few days who I can't wait to see again next year. It's so nice
to be part of a group where everyone is ready to help everyone else. Thanks
so much for taking the time to help out we newcomers and share your skills.
PWD SUGAR AGAIN
My husband just about hit the panic button in the vendors rooms. He
saw the buying frenzy going on and just could not believe it. He said that
was the most dangerous area of a convention. LOL of course that is the
one area that you can find all of the new stuff. New molds, new tools,
new books, new techniques, and some things that simply are not available
to many of the decorators in their home area. It is very easy to become
very broke in a short amount of time. This year one company who has a line
of the large ovens was even there. I drooled all over their booth and thought
about it for a day. Eventually I took my husband back to look and the first
words out of his mouth actually were "honey you need that - order it".
So I did. They were giving a discount of over 1400 dollars if it was ordered
at the show. See how much money I saved. Lol
One of my favorite new tools this year was the textured roller that
Rosa from Peru offered. She had some wonderful very large bows on her cakes
that had this texture and draping in them and they were so beautiful and
showy.
Of course Rosemary Watson's sugar bouquet molds are always a draw for
me. I have many of her molds and I am so happy with them that I always
try to spend some time checking out the new pieces that she offers at each
convention. This year she had lots of competition. There were several people
making similar molds which meant more choices for all of us. Therefore
we benefit.
The demos this year were great because no matter where you sat you could
see. Disney had very good video cameras in the rooms and Disney people
manned the cameras in the three very large rooms and then several of us
manned the cameras in the smaller rooms. The cameras were professional
quality and were wonderful to work with.
Demo's I personally attended Maureen Stevenson's - Christmas cake
Maureen showed how to put fondant on a cake and how to do some basic
decorations to make a very pretty little Christmas cake with a snowman
royal icing figure on top.
Sharon Powell - hands on demo for children - I ran the video camera
for this one. Sharon's sister actually did this and she showed the children
how to decorate round sugar cookies with three cute designs. She had all
of the cookies, icing in bags with tips and colors ready for a lion's face,
a fish and a cute people face. Well done and the adults in the group with
the children enjoyed this to.
June Twelves - gum paste bride June did a complete gumpaste bride in
the hour's demo. She showed all of the steps in making the face, body,
arms, painting the face and dressing the doll. Very nicely done with the
hour limitation.
Betty Van Norstrand - making drum separators & levels I also ran
the video for this demo and betty did a great job of showing us another
way to separate our cakes. She showed several ideas for set ups and certainly
gave us another option to use with our cakes.
Stephen Orbell - creative stenciling Video camera again - Stephen was
showing the stenciling technique developed by Sarah Gleve. A wonderful
technique for beginners and it allows all of us to do very dramatic touches
on our cakes.
Steve Bennison - introduction to chocolate flowers Video again - Steve
did a great demo and gave us some real practical information about the
differences in the chocolates. His chocolate flowers were exquisite. Beautifully
proportioned and his shading was wonderful.
Angela Priddy - silhouette bride & groom; butterflies Video again
- Angela's demo was the hardest demo to video. Nearly everything she was
working with was smaller than a nickel and for her to hold on to the tiny
pieces her hand was always in the way. The camera would barely pick up
some of the things such as the butterflies body or the brides arms. The
arms were smaller around than a toothpick. She had cutters for all of the
pieces and then each piece only required a tiny bit of shaping to bring
it to life. Her work was beautiful - just so tiny that many of us will
probably never use it.
Dolores777: Angela Priddy is great! (She makes the gumpaste fairies).
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Shavkin: Brenda: Got the wonderful aol pin the night I got home from FL.
Thanks a million. Wish mails had goten it to me sooner. That was soooo
thoughtful of you. Appreciate it. ChefLee: I've never been to ICES convention,
I really want to go to the next one, do they just show. Wilton stuff or
what? MaraTLee: No, chef lee---they show-LOTS OF STUFF--
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Pwd Sugar: Lots of vendors at the show - Wilton is just one of many
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PBCakeWalk: All kinds of stuff ChefLee for sugar art!!! My first time this
year and will be going back every year I can.
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ChefLee: do they also show more "gourmet" type things as well?
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MBF821: I guess the mail is bogged down with the UPS strike. I thought
you'd have it sooner.
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Pwd Sugar: The ovens were from DeLuxe Equipment Company, Inc. in Bradenton,
Florida Convection ovens - really good looking
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MaraTLee: "gourmet" like what---it's not a cooking convention---it's a
sugar art convention--- anything to enhance---learn--promote the art of
sugar.
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Shavkin: mail delay. It would have been nice to get it in time for convention,
but not much one can do about the
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Lorry7: i bought air brush for cake use what is best instruction to get
started
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Pwd Sugar: I ordered one that I can bake four times what I can put in my
biggest oven. Lots of Chefs at the convention this year too. They have
finally figured out we really are a part of their pastry world.
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Cake Wmn: Chef, had head pastry chef from the Contemporary Resort and helped
demo desserts
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ChefLee: I love to combine the two elements, you know the gourmet cake
with the outlandish creativity on the decorations as well
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Pwd Sugar: Sure that is what makes this a fun business
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MaraTLee: It's not enough for the cake to be a good tasting dessert----it
has to look good also----
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Pwd Sugar: Disney Chefs even did one demo and showed how them do their
fancy expensive deserts I have a double oven stove that I have been using
for 30 years. The thermostats are shot - They have hot spots and yesterday
the screws were falling out of the door. So I am grateful that the new
oven is on the way. It sure was neat to put some faces with your names
Bakerbear1: just moved...my oven is half the size of a standard one---yikes
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Dolores777: Baker:::there are 'half' pans for the larger starting at 14"
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Pwd Sugar: TIP ON USING THE 1/2 PANS: When you go to stack the cakes made
with the 1/2 pans turn the top layer of 1/2 cakes just 15 degrees and they
will line up better When you put the top cakes on just turn them a little
past where the bottom cakes are divided. Like if you have a pie cut into
12 pieces - just move the seam around just a little bit.
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Bakerbear1: I piece together 1/4 sheets all of the time, almost never have
a problem gotcha....so all of the cracks aren;t in the same place...
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Dunkccc: Oh, how much does everyone charge for chocolate lollipops? Help,
I'm making these lollipops tomorrow, what should I charge?
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Dolores777: we charge by weight Dunk...sue can help you
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RachDminor: Oh, I LOVE making lollipops ... that's my speed so far ;)
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Dunkccc: How about an approximate price per lollipop then?
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RachDminor: Dunk, I think the idea is it depends on the size.
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Dunkccc: Is 1-1/2 x the cost of the chocolate a fair price?
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Bakerbear1: are there anything else in the lollipops dunk
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Dolores777: dunk...we charge all dif. prices according to size.. maybe
starting at 50-60 cents
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RachDminor: Dunk, what are they for and how big are they?
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Dunkccc: no, just chocolate and a lollipop stick. About 4-5 inches long.
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Bakerbear1: a good general rule is expenses x3 (at least for catering)
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RachDminor: I'd pay $1. for a really fancy, colored one .. less for plain.
.50 for small, .75 for larger here can always charge less if they don't
sell
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Dolores777: SO THEY WANT AOL MEMBERS TO DO A CHAT DEMO AT ICES PWD????
LOL
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Pwd Sugar: They talked about it for this year - I was chicken - feathers
on my legs LOL
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Pwd Sugar: Can you do it with a lap top from convention
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MBF821: Give us a room ful of computers and phone lines and a big screen.
:)
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RachDminor: Pwd, with a modem and proper line, yes :)
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Pwd Sugar: With a video camera and your lap top we could do it where everyone
could see
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Pwd Sugar: THey should have.
NEXT WEEK'S TOPIC: Thursday, August 21, 1997 at 9 PM ET
in the Kitchen Conference Room -- "More about the convention and what we
learned there NEW - REAL TIPS"
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