Thursday, August 28, 1997 at 9 PM ET in the Kitchen
Conference Room -- "Back to school idea cakes and techniques"
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ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Check out Pwd sugar's new WEB SITE at : http://members.aol.com/pwdsugar/private/index.html
NEW::: We now have a BULLETIN BOARD on my web site
so that all of us around the country can make necessary announcements.
If you need to know (OR KNOW OF) a DOS for your state or a special class,
please email me ALL the particulars...date, time, cost, when, where, etc.
SpecBySue: For those who like to learn through demos etc, check out your
State's ICES Days of Sharing
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Shavkin: Anyone want to come to NY for our Day of Sharing
in Sept 28th.
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CHaney8796: Ohio Day of Sharing September 28, 1997 At the
Adam's Mark Hotel 50 North /Third St. Columbus, Ohio Registration to Karen
Garback $20.00 for the day. Any questions about the Day of Sharing please
contact ME!! Demonstrations for the Day are Stenciling and Airbrushing
(By my daughters Sue & Joyce!) Also a repeat of the Pulled Sugar Demo
that we had in the spring.
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Faline369: Does anyone here know if FL has a Day of Sharing?
Might help tide me over till August.
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Sunsh57756: where in FL Faline?
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Faline369: I'm in Orlando Pwd Sugar: Faline are you an ICES
member?
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Cookbear: YES!!! Our first N. FL one is Oct 26, in Tallahassee
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PASTRYMSD: I'd also be interested in attending a Miami day
of sharing
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Pwd Sugar: You should get a newsletter to tell you about
DOS and classes in the state
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Sunsh57756: I'm in Boca Raton
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Pwd Sugar: Show and class info
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SpecBySue: Your web page would be a great bullentin board
for show and Day of Sharing postings.
Do you have the new issue of American Cake Decorating
Magazine? Be sure to read the next part of Earlene Moore's BUSINESS article.
Aka: Pwd sugar
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Szyhmkr: Who has the latest edition of American Cake Dec??
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Pwd Sugar: New one just came today - American Cake Dec. -
Good stuff. It only comes out every other month
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SpecBySue: Wonderful article on Lambeth by Carolyn Wanke,
Tx and article by The chocolate leather/ candy clay flowers were by Steve
Klc who will be at OK Cake Show
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Pwd Sugar: Lots of good stuff in there this month - Some
advanced and lots of beginner stuff
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CHaney8796: hey ladies did you see our Betty Taylor in the
latest American cake Dec. Magazine???
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Dolores777: she comes to OH DOS always too Pwd Sugar: Isn't
she the featured Decorator
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CHedgesp: Pwd I had a problem transporting cake with filling,
the top slid. Did I have too much filling?
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Dolores777: too much filling
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L2jlu2: I have been asked if i would like to be a Wilton
teacher! Is this a good Idea, any comments?
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Pwd Sugar: That is where all of the beginners start and they
certainly need GOOD teachers
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Dolores777: L2...depends on how YOU want to go...direction-wise
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SpecBySue: Why not attend a Wilton teacher's meeting as a
guest to get an idea of needs and to chat.
OUR TOPIC: "Back to school idea cakes
and techniques"
EARLENE'S PART
Since I don't really do birthday and back to school cakes,
I thought I would give you a little food for thought.
The little darlings are back in school now. You have a
little quiet time in your house. How about increasing your sugar skills.
Get out or purchase one of the new 1998 Wilton year books and put yourself
back in a learning position. I am using the Wilton yearbook as an example
because I think this is probably the most accessible for all of you. Check
out the many things that can be done with fondant. Lots of ideas in the
yearbook this year. Many of this years cakes use some basic fondant skills
- good ideas and practical uses for the rolled fondant. Most stores that
carry the Wilton supplies will be carrying the ready made fondant for you.
Use your paste food colors to tint the fondant and remember to knead some
flavoring into the fondant. One of the oil flavorings and just a few drops
will be sufficient to make it taste good.
I roll out my fondant on a very heavy sheet of vinyl.
No dusting, no cornstarch and no moving it around. Just don't let your
sheet of vinyl get creases or wrinkles in it. When I buy it at the fabric
store I ask them to please roll it back up - don't let them fold it. When
I get home I store it in a new piece of PVC pipe cut just a little longer
than the vinyl. The PVC is 3" in diameter and each time I need the vinyl
I just pull it out of the pipe and when I am through using the vinyl it
is carefully cleaned, rolled back up and it goes back into the PVC storage
pipe that lays on top of one of my storage units. When I am ready to use
it I pull it out and lay it on one end of an 8 foot table with the curling
side of the vinyl down. Dampen the table under it just a little with a
damp paper towel - this keeps it from moving around on the table.
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Cheflene: Do people like the taste of rolled fondant?
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Dunkccc: I think choc-pan tastes fabulous--expensive though'
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BRAT 583: Add Grand Marnier to fondant, really jazzes it
up!
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Dolores777: I like the taste chef
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L2jlu2: Dolores, saw in an old chat, where you went over
prices for Wilton '97 book, will you do the same for the 1998 book?
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Dolores777: Pwd sugar did this L2
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Dolores777: DO take into consideration your area...and experience
for pricing
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Pwd Sugar: If you guys want it - I'll try to work that up
Knead your fondant until it is pliable - the color is right
and the flavor is worked through your fondant. Try to keep from working
air bubbles into the fondant. Work the fondant - flattening it slightly
with all of the creases and seams on the top side. The smooth side down.
Put this down on your vinyl and with your hands flatten the fondant and
encourage it to become more rounded, square or oval depending on the shape
you are going to want.
Then take your rolling pen and with firm even pressure
continue rolling the fondant out until you have arrived at the shape and
thickness you desire for your project. 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick seems to be
acceptable in most cakes designs. Cover the fondant with saran wrap and
ice your cake with buttercream icing. Remember to keep this fairly smooth
(any lumps, bumps or cracks will show through your fondant) Have someone
in your household help you and gently turn the vinyl upside down with the
fondant hanging from the bottom side. - center it and lay the fondant over
the cake. Gently peal the fondant away from the vinyl. Let this air dry
for just a little bit. (when you first peal it away from the vinyl it is
very moist and your hands may want to stick to the fondant.) Now smooth
the top and work the fondant down the sides. Trim the excess away and continue
smoothing. Fondant smoothers really help keep that fondant surface flat
and beautiful.
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Page 3 has a cute baby's first cake. Rolled fondant with
buttercream borders and dots.
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Pages 16 and 17 have some bows, drapes and stars for more
ideas a package cake on page 20 that is cute and has some basic fondant
ideas to learn. This is a really good design for almost anyone's birthday.
A pizza cutter is great for cutting out the narrow strips of colored fondant.
Drinking straws or toothpicks can be used to make the curly ribbons and
you will have built upon your skills again.
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Page 25 uses the fondant to create a football design
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Page 33 has a pretty fondant cake with pretty (pre-made)
royal icing borders and a few gumpaste flowers.
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Page 80 uses the fondant to cover the horseshoe pan Pages
86 and 87 give you two wedding cake ideas
The Wilton yearbook this year shows you many ways to use
the rolled fondant - all of these ideas are basic. Fondant is not difficult
- just different - maybe out of your comfort zone. We don't learn new things
if we stay in our comfort zone.
I have been decorating over 35 years and I still try to
take at least one class of some kind each year. More if I can work it in.
None of us in this field of sugar art ever knows it all. We are constantly
learning with each new cake order. Each new challenge is what keeps many
of us in this field. We don't do the exact same thing week after week and
day after day. It is never boring - tiring yes - but, never boring. When
I have someone request a cake design that I have never done - when they
leave - I look in the mirror and ask myself - Just how do you think you
are going to do that. Sometimes I think that mirror image should be able
to talk and it would probably say - "You are an idiot you can't do that
out of sugar." LOL
But by the time that cake is due I have had the time to
figure out a way to do a reasonable facsimile thereof. Sometimes I am really
happy with it and other times I wish I could do it over and know what I
know now. Back to school - doesn't mean I have to go somewhere else to
learn - I guess I am home schooling now. LOL pull out one of those books
from the shelf and try something you haven't done before. Learning is schooling.
Now, do you have someone in your area who teaches cake
decorating classes. Learning in a class builds your skills faster. Maybe
a visiting teacher from out of your area. Even if I think I already have
the skills that teacher may be teaching - if I have the time - I try to
take those classes. You always learn something - either from the teacher
or from the other decorators sitting around you. I always get my moneys
worth from those classes. Just being away from the phone, the fellowship
with others who love the sugar arts and sharing of ideas gives me that
revitalizing I need. When you work by yourself most of the time you do
get very tired of the mess, the stress, the demands from the brides, the
last minute fixes and etc. We all need a break occasionally and someone
to refill our empty, drained brains. LOL take advantage of those classes
offered and build your skills and refuel your brain.
SpecBySue: Cookie cutters and anything that embosses make
great lay ons and textures in rolled fondant.
DOLORES' PART
Back to school...what would the requests be just now?
Cookies, Homecoming cakes before you know it, etc.
Have any of you tried the new COOKIE STAMPS? THE RAGE!
Even Wilton has gotten into the excitement. Easy and fun. Use stamp for
cookies, crafts and more. For use with your homemade sugar, peanut butter
or gingerbread cookie dough. USE ANY COOKIE DOUGH RECIPE - TIP: If your
cookies don't stay in shape while baking, chill in freezer for a few minutes
first. HOW TO USE: Roll cookie dough into a ball; place on cookie sheet.
Press with stamp to flatten and imprint cookie with design. Carefully lift
stamp up to release. Bake following recipe directions. Dip tamp in flour
before pressing to prevent sticking. Clean with hot soapy water and a soft
brush; let dry thoroughly, dishwasher safe. TRY OTHER FUN WAYS TO USE THIS
STAMP: Marzipan, Medallions in Ready-to-use rolled fondant or fun clay
creations. Let the kids do it!
CAKE - 'AN APPLE FOR THE TEACHER' - Bake a book cake and
a cake baked in the petite doll cake pan (the apple). On one page, draw
a blackboard and 2+2=4 etc. Write a message. On the other page, have an
'apple.' APPLE: Ice the petite doll pan cake red, then go back over and
ice it with red piping gel for shine. STEM: Color a bit of buttercream
icing green. Add conf. sugar until it is stiff enough that it won't stick
to your hands. Hand-mold a stem and place on the apple. For the bottom
border I like to add a tip 104 ruffle with tip 5 straight line (like a
book cover).
Have you tried rolled fondant yet? Don't be afraid. You
may find it easier than icing a cake with buttercream and a spatula! Some
people have told me they did find this easier. There is a real easy cake
on page 3 of the new 1998 Wilton Yearbook. Don't make it difficult. Use
your regular cake mix or recipe. The only thing you must do different is
add something sticky on the bare cake so the fondant will stick. So here
is an easy cake and a glaze you can use BOTH!
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BRAT 583: Dee, what are the best tools to use for gumpaste?
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(From Dolores) I would advise you to stick with Wilton kit
at first...just to learn. Then later on, there are many many different
ones. We all end up with our own favorites. The very best place to see
what is available is at ICES conventions. This may be the ONLT place for
a lot of us.
BISQUICK APRICOT-GLAZED POUND CAKE
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3 cups Bisquick
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1 1/2 cup Sugar
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1/2 cup Flour
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3/4 cup Margarine or butter; soft
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6 Eggs
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8 oz Cream cheese; softened
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1 ts Vanilla
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1/8 ts Salt
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TOPPING:
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1/2 cup Sugar
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1/2 cup Water
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1/4 cup Orange-flavored liqueur
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GLAZE: 1 cup Apricot preserves
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1/4 cup Sugar
Heat oven to 350~. Grease tube pan, 10x4". Beat Bisquick,
1 1/2 cups sugar, 1/2 cups flour, margarine, eggs, cream cheese, vanilla
& salt in large bowl on low speed, scraping bowl frequently, 30 seconds.
Beat on medium speed scraping bowl occasionally 4 minutes. Pour batter
into pan. Bake until wooden pick inserted in center comes out clean, 55-60
minutes. Cool 10 minutes; remove from pan. Heat 1/2 cup sugar & the
water to boiling; reduce heat. Simmer uncovered 2 minutes; cool to lukewarm.
Stir in liqueur. Slowly drizzle over cake. Press preserves through sieve.
Heat preserves & 1/4 cup sugar to boiling, stirring constantly; reduce
heat. Simmer uncovered until slightly thickened, 1 to 2 minutes. Cool slightly;
spread over top, allowing some to drizzle down sides.
Try a fondant mix so you won't need to learn so much at
once. The cake in the picture could be used for many different occasions.
You may get hooked. I really like rolled fondant icing because it isn't
so sweet.
Dolores777: we use lots of fondant items we make for novelty
cakes too....handy stuff and edible
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Dunkccc: Do you mean cool the cakes upside down?
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Dolores777: I cool in pan 1-20 minutes, turn out upside down
after this
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BRAT 583: Dee, when leveling cakes Opposites attract?
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Dunkccc: Is this before of after you level the cake?
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Dolores777: NO>>>always upside down to prevent bulging!
Here is a cake recipe I found...someone asked for this a
few chats ago: CAKE WITHOUT EGGS - 1908 1 ts Soda 1 cup Sour milk 1 cup
Sugar 1/2 cup Butter 1 c Raisins 1 ts Cinnamon 1 ts Cloves 2 cups flour*
see below Pinch of salt
Mix enough *Flour to drop from a spoon. Bake in slow oven
325-350 degrees. Thursday, September 4, 1997 at 9 PM ET in the Kitchen
Conference Room -- Join Dolores777 and Pwd sugar for Cake Decorating -
"Color-flo icing...some hints and tips for making this fun!"
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ChefMatt22: Anyone know where I can apply for Scholarships
on the internet?
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Cakestmper: ICES offers scholarships,
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ChefMatt22, go to www.ices.org for info
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BRAT 583: Anyone know where to get cake software?
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Dolores777: what kind BR?
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BRAT 583: Design cakes
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(From Dolores) What you probably are looking for is a graphics
program...there are many. Mostly I use a very old one called Image Star,
came with my first scanner. It is limited, but easy. The ultimate, I suppose,
is Corel Draw. I have it too, but haven't had time to learn it. Then, we
ALL need a graphics conversion software of some kind. I use Hijaak. It
converts a picture from a TIF ot a JPG or GIF to put on the web...etc.
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Ggod24: i need a computer program for food cost % and recipes
ect. can anyone any good suggestions,
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Dolores777: Gg:::I use Meal Master...do a search on internet
and download it...shareware and very easy
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Pwd Sugar: Hi Sue - Room I gave the wrong name on one of
the demonstrators last week.
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Pwd Sugar: Sue could you correct that for me. Pwd Sugar:
How about some of you who went sharing what you liked best about this years
convention SpecBySue: Kudos to the Fla Show committee for all their work.
They were always smiling and gracious.
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JWGPKG: I went to convention Saturday only. NEVER expected
to see so many "pretties"!
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PASTRYMSD: I enoyed everything about the convention, being
it was my first
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LgntCakes: I'm hoping that Minneapolis will by my first one
- so far I've had to miss them all. II believe I've gotten dispensation
for next year, and I'm already. planning
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Pwd Sugar: JWGPKG - I'll bet you wished you had come for
all of the convention JWGPKG: I started to call my dh and tell him I wasn't
coming home!
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SpecBySue: I like seeing the many new decorators seeking
to expend their skills-great forum for good ?
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JWGPKG: Already looking forward to Minneapolis. My dh said,
"Well, I've never been to Minneapolis."
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Pwd Sugar: Start planning now and saving those $'s so you
can really have a good time in
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CHaney8796: Minneapolis was a great place to be and im looking
forward to going back just take your walking shoes
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Cake Wmn: Shav, only ones I can remember are shop til you
drop to mall of america and General mills
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Pwd Sugar: Who is Garrison Keillor???
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BRAT 583: Will Garrison Keillor be at next convention?
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BRAT 583: A very brilliant humorist that talks about Lake
Woebegone, would like to hear what he says about cake decorationg
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Dolores777: hey everyone::: I reserved my room already in
St. Paul;....how's that? you better...small hotel -wouldn't want to be
stuck in the other. I've always stayed in the main hotel...so much better
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Pwd Sugar: Don't wait guys - you miss out of half of the
fun if you are in another hotel Cake Wmn: me too, dee - after my problems
in Fl. I wasn't going to go through that again
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CHedgesp: Is there anyway of showing pictures if u don't
have scanner?
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(From Dolores) Yes, if you have a scanner, scan a picture.
Save it 100dpi or less. Make it a JPG for color or a GIF for black &
white. (This is so it won't be so large and won't take long for someone
to download. I would also compress it for faster downloading. Upload it
into our Food Club Libraries under the one that says "ASCII Text Cooking
Libraries. The above is for the PC. We are still working on what to do
on a MAC. Pwd sugar has a MAC and has been able to send me pictures over
AOL. You might consult her for MACs.
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Pwd Sugar: A Clue - This is a speed reading class disguised
as a cake decorators chat.
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(From Dolores) I just HAD to make sure I saved this comment!
Cake decorators are so excited and we write so much so fast that the screen
then rolls so fast we can't read it! LOL...DO be sure to learn logging
so you can record chats and read them thoroughly later on.
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Dunkccc: True--we cake people are just so "eager" about decorating!
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Pwd Sugar: We found out the night we met at Convention -
we all wanted to talk at once LOL
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Lee Keke: Especially when it takes a few minutes to go through,
when everybody is typing at the same
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Dolores777: Lee::: I didn't speed read fast enough...do you
know darlene Horner?
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Lee Keke: Dolores, I don't know Darlene Horner, who is she?
Dolores777: has a shop in PA - wonderful lady
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Pwd Sugar: Dee - Did you know that Darlene was Inducted into
the Hall of Fame this year?
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Dolores777: no one deserves that more...now I wish I HAD
been there to see that. Darlene lives on the east side of PA above Pittsburg
- has a shop. One of the nicest ladies you'll ever meet
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Pwd Sugar: She and Gloria Griffen and Maxine Boyington was
awarded the Wilbur Brand award
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CHaney8796: Got to see the opery land hotel
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Pwd Sugar: Were you checking out our future ICES site Haney
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LgntCakes: Is ICES going to the oprey soon?
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CHaney8796: Nashville in 2002
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Shavkin: 1998,MN; 1999, Kansas City; 2000, MI; 2001, Oregon;
2002, Nashville TN; 2003 Canada
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Pwd Sugar: Most interesting demo I saw was the one Betty
Van Norstrand did on cake drums. It is a type of cake separations she does
and they look so neat. Much easier. Just set on the cakes with supports
underneath
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LgntCakes: Betty was at our DOS a few months ago to do the
drums demo. Isn't she great?
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CHaney8796: Pwd Sugar I missed her demo on the cake drums
do you have info??
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Pwd Sugar: No handouts
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CHaney8796: The info on Minneapolis will be out in the next
I.c.e.s.
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CHaney8796: Night of sharing was great
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LgntCakes: PWD SUGAR, you must be a vendor?
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Pwd Sugar: Nope - just a person who loves ICES. Friday night
was the vendors night. Books, Ovens, Motorized turntables (Which came in
today by the way)
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Dolores777: this week vitty's mom is remarrying...he is doing
the cake - with my oversee
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Pwd Sugar: Good for Vitty - What a memory he is making for
his MOM.
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Dolores777: right Pwd...I am insisting he do it ALL too...hard
for a 15 yrs old. Hes a real sweety though. She doesn't care if its perfect...she's
sentimental
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Pwd Sugar: But something he can be so proud of in the future.
And his mom will be so proud of him.
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Dolores777: right Pwd, I am too. He made lattice royal i.
hearts even broke down and bought lilies, though he makes them fine. Perfect
- No such thing - We each just do the best we can for where we are at the
moment
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ChefMatt22: What is ICES e-mail address http://www.ices.org
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CHaney8796: Dolores777 Just make sure you get there next
year
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PASTRYMSD: does anyone have a good recipe for rolled buttercream
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LgntCakes: There's a good recipe for rolled buttercream in
one of Winbeckler's newsletters
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Dolores777: PASTRY...check that on my web page/recipes/icing
recipes
Pwd Sugar: Dee and I are both going to do a little of the
vacation thing in the next month too. Just as long as we work it where
one of us is here - LOL I'll be here when Dolores is gone and she will
be here when I am gone
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