ITALIAN CREAM CAKE RECIPE
This recipe has been difficult since the first time I
made it. The original recipe I have goofed up every way possible.
I have tried doctoring cake mixes to make something close
to this texture and taste. I haven’t found that solution yet. Even
watching it as close as we could and trying not to over bake this
cake, it always seemed to be to dry. Brenda Siron (a good friend) seems
to have found the answer for us. she uses cake flour (look for it
in boxes in your grocery store shelves) only.
it works great for her. I found using the cake
flour only didn’t work for me. so, I tried using half cake flour
and half regular flour. using the cake flour you also have
to increase the amount of flour used. this still produces a very dense
cake but, it is now very moist. Here is the new adjusted recipe.
You will need two large mixing bowls. Put in mixing
bowl
1 pound (4 cups) sugar (I think she means confectioners’
sugar? - Dolores)
1 cup Egg yolks
1 1/4 cups Wesson oil
1 1/4 cups margarine
Beat until light and fluffy
In the grease free mixing bowl #2 place the egg whites and beat at highest speed with the beater or wire whip
Measure 3 cups sifted cake flour and 3 cups regular flour
In a four cup measuring cup measure 2 1/2 cups buttermilk and add 2 1/2 teaspoons. Soda. Stir until the soda is dissolved and the mixture is rising
Add the flour and the buttermilk mixture alternately to
the sugar/egg mixture. Add
1 tbl. Butavan
CCChefDol: ...butavan...can't we just add butter flavoring
and vanill since we can't get butavan?
CCChefPwd: Right dee - The price on that has gone up
to $30 per gallon.
In a very large bowl mix 2 cups chopped pecans and 2 cups
shredded coconut. Stir in the batter and then fold in the stiffly
beaten egg whites. Fill the pans 2/3 full and bake at 325 degrees
for 1 hour to 1 hour and 20 minutes.
HINT - this is the maximum you can mix in the Kitchenaid
5 qt. Mixer.
Two of the recent things I learned in this AOL world of ours how to put a link into e-mail and what the ignore button is and where to find it. Do all of you know about these two things?
To put a link into your e-mail you just compose your letter
and when you get to the point you want to insert a link - open
up your favorites list and click on the listing you want to send someone.
Drag it to your letter and insert it where you want it.
Isn’t that easy. Dolores has lots of good links
on her web page http://www.sugarcraft.com/
and Diane has made a great page of links for all of us.
Check on her web page http://members.aol.com/shavkin/index.htm
for all kinds of recipe sites and other cake decorators web pages.
Aren’t links great - you can travel from site to site all day
in our cake decorating world just using the links from
web page to web page to web page.
We are so fortunate in this chat room because we just
get very few people who are intentionally disruptive. If that
should happen and you don’t want to see what that person is saying you
can push your ignore button.
Where? How?
see the list on the right of your chat screen with everyone’s
names listed in the chat room. Double click on a person’s
name. A small screen will come up and it has a couple of buttons
at the bottom - click on the ignore button if you don't want to see what
that person is saying. Another easy thing but unless you know
how to do these things they aren’t valuable tools to you.
My biggest hint EVER is the one where I put a dab of florist clay on my nail to make the wax paper squares stick on. It works perfectly and you don't need to worry ever again of your best flower falling off because it your wax paper didn't stick. Use a very small dab and smooth it down until you can barely feel it. Then your tip will slide over it smoothly.
How about a great cake you have recently decorated?
I made a neato cake - my 'western' wedding cake. I iced
the 3-tier cake brownish ivory. They had rope bows made. I used black cowboy
hats and real dried wheat. There is a picture of it on my web site here:
http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/wedding/wedding.htm
I don't get to make many fun cakes. I only do wedding
cakes and they are the same things over and over...most of the time anyway.
It was fun to do something different.
Castle cakes are real popular now. So I put one in the JUNE newsletter for you. It is pretty simple and not huge. It uses rolled fondant for the spires. This is a fast and perfect covering. My students are now doing rolled fondant in course 3. They are real surprised when they find out how easy it is and how perfect their cakes look.
What about ICES....are any of you going? How are
your plans going? Need any help?
We are planning on doing our regular AOL chat from the
convention on Thursday night. Same time. You really can't tell we are remote
unless you are there. Also, we are going to have time to really meet each
other and get aquatinted there. BADGES: We need to start planning on a
badge to wear to identify computer friends. What did you do last year?
Was it the paper badge like I have the pattern for? I still have this on
my computer.
ICES BADGES - for everyone who
meets online---on AOL or otherwise. NOT JUST AOL members...this is for
all of us. Come to our LIVE chat at the ICES show on Thursday evening at
9PM eastern time (8 PM in St. Paul) and we'll exchange badges so we know
who each other is. Our chat will be listed in your program so you will
know where we will be meeting at. We will have large monitors so everyone
can see what's going on.
CCChefPwd: We made some stiff paper badges - but
one of the girls made us really neat plastic badges.
MBF821: My husband made the plastic ones. May be he will
do it again.
CCChefPwd: we might be able to do the badges at our live
chat Thursday evening… so we can identify each other
CCChefDol: YES Pwd, were they paper or what last year?
MBF821: Will we use the same design or a new one this
year?
CCChefPwd: I made them from heavy paper and laminated
them. I think I still have the pattern. I can run more off for this
year.
CCChefDol: I have the pattern if you don't...good idea
- laminating them Pwd, I have it online if you need it?
CCChefPwd: I punched a hole in the top and attached a
small safety pin to attach them to our ribbons. I also took some permanent
ink pens so that they could write their names at the bottom of the AOL
badges
CCChefDol: oh yes, great idea...I'll keep this info and
mark it for the show...in our log
CCChefPwd: That would be great if we could do that at
Thursday night and not have to chase people down all during the show
KBius: where is this show?
CCChefPwd: Minnesota, St Paul
CCChefDol: GREAT idea Pwd...in fact, fantastic!
CCChefPwd: We will be LIVE and IDENTIFIED.
LOL
CCChefPwd: At the ICES convention you really learn that
there are some of the best people in the world who love this sugar art.
Plus the best decorators in the world are there - Live and
you really learn just what type of people they are
Since tonight is open mike night I only brought one recipe and a couple of interesting AOL things I have recently learned. I hope you have come prepared to ask questions, give us hints or tell us something interesting that has happened in your sugar art world.
Tuppy 2: Has anyone decorated with two types of icing
before? frostin pride (Bettercreme) and butter cream
CCChefDol: Tuppy those icings are the same, just dif
brands
ShariE1071: question about Bettercreme... can it be colored,
and can it be colored deeply?
Tuppy 2: can you decorate with the two different frostings
without any problems?
Icing Wiz: tuppy depends on type of frosting
CCChefDol: Tuppy, it seems that in the east we get Bettercreme
and in the
west they get the other
Icing Wiz: I have never heard of Frosting pride
CCChefDol: I think its Pastry Pride isn't it?
Tuppy 2: there's frostin pride & pastry pride...
Frosting pride takes colors better... More butterfat in it. Pastry pride
is more of a whipped topping... like cool whip
ShariE1071: which one is more like Bettercreme?
does it take colors well?
Tuppy 2: use the 800 number on the carton
ShariE1071: yeah, I have to call it anyways, to find
out how to divide out a 15 lb tub of icing. That's what I have access to
:/
L2jlu2: does anyone here make buttercream with eggs
version, how safe and how should the cake be kept after frosting
CCChefDol: eggs...make you need to store it carefully-
in the fridge
L2jlu2: can you change the buttercream icing by adding
other flavorings. I would like to make different tasting buttercream
icing
Tuppy 2: I need some advice on a wedding cake...
? on colors... what looks better? frosting the cake white and using
very light
peach for cornelli? lace, or the other way around...
frost cake with light peach and do white cornelli lace?
ShariE1071: I think a peach background would be pretty
with the white on top
CCChefDol: white alone is harsh. why I always like ivory,
so that would be nice too
Tuppy 2: I can't make up my mind..... it's my first
wedding cake so I want it to look good!!
CCChefDol: either way, but if its for a wedding cake,
I'd ice white..or ask the customer
CCChefPwd: You can't go wrong with white and ivory Tuppy
- It is always stunning
JWGPKG: My own wedding cake had a peach center tier with
ivory trim. Was beautiful.
Tuppy 2: she's not picky.... said to do whatever looked
best
AND COLETTE PETERS PAID US A VISIT!!!:
Cakecolet: In case you’re interested, I’m going to be
on the food network Monday on in food today
CCChefDol: what kind of food Cake???
CCChefPwd: Hey room we have the famous Colette Peters
with us in the room tonight. Say hello to Colette
Cakecolet: I’m making a wedding cake in 3 1/2 minutes
with Bill Boggs
Lizzzie P: Colette, what time?
Tuppy 2: hi Colette..
CCChefPwd: Where is the food network Colette
Thinkchoc: What time is it on ?
Cakecolet: 5:30 eastern time
L2jlu2: what show will you be on Colette?
CCChefPwd: Is that on Cable Colette?
Cakecolet: in food today with David Rosengarten and donna
Hanover - Yes, cable
Cindycake1: I have two of your books and I love them
Cakecolet: I’m working on #4 now
CCChefDol: Me too...a customer is making your gold package
cake...was just in today
L2jlu2: great, i'll be watching. i have you on
tape when you did "Bakers Dozen"" I believe it was
Tuppy 2: colette, how long have you been decorating?
Cakecolet: 20 some years
Cindycake1: You have a nice twist in color!
Tuppy 2: your work is beautiful!!
CCChefDol: suppose it was a good audience attractor :
)
Icing Wiz: I saw Oprah repeated the episode with that
mega $$$$ cake
CCChefPwd: Collette was an artist before she found the
cake world - therefore
she is really great as a sugar artist - in my humble
opinion
Cakecolet: im going to be doing a cake in saudi arabia
for the king in the fall
Icing Wiz: Collete will your other books be paperback.
I have hard back but paper back is cheaper
CCChefPwd: How neat Collette - That should be a real
experience
Cakecolet: yes,,very scary
CCChefDol: I would think it would be scary
Devonpeter: What is the design for the king?
Icing Wiz: I hope he doesn't kidnap you and make you
another wife you know those foreign countries LOL
Cakecolet: he probably has enough wives
CCChefPwd: Will you have to take all of your ingredients
with you?
Icing Wiz: LOL but none that do cakes like you!
Shavkin: are very neat and precise. Wonderful presentation!
Bridal1: What program are we talking and when?
Cakecolet: its only 3 1/2 minutes
Thinkchoc: Colette, are you teaching any rolled fondant
and g.p. in the NY area??
Cakecolet: not until my book is finished
L2jlu2: Its channel 57. at 5:30 Monday
CCChefDol: ...won't be 57 everywhere I wager
Cakecolet: its on the food network on cable on monday
at 5:30 est
Cakecolet: its only 3 1/2 minutes!
CCChefPwd: Thanks for letting us know Collette - I'll
bet that gets posted on
the message boards. You will have many of us watching
you - don't get nervous now. LOL
DB4MB: what will be the topic the night of the show?
Cakecolet: wedding cakes
CCChefPwd: What is you theme in the new book you are
working on Collette?
Cakecolet: birthday cakes
DB4MB: Cakecolet.. do you have a flavor that you think
tastes best?
Cakecolet: chocolate and orange
CCChefPwd: Thanks for doing that - you have such great
ideas
Icing Wiz: I like the hawaiian type cake you did I have
made several for people
DB4MB: can the Hawaiian cake be described here?
CCChefDol: I'd like to do Colette's packages cake on
the front of that book
Icing Wiz: It was two tiers in teal the flowers and leaves
were freely piped on
JWGPKG: Collette, what is the one "best" tip you could
give other cake decorators?
Icing Wiz: Does anyone remember the tropical cake with
flamingo bride and groom cake top at convention
Devonpeter: How did you learn about cake chat Colette?
I did that cake with the flamingos
Icing Wiz: how is that? I did the cake with the flamingos
Nicole! I made cake top and everything
Devonpeter: No I had a WEIRD couple order it for the
wedding cake not even for the grooms cake
L2jlu2: collete do you have a web site?
Cakecolet: i dont have a web sight yet
NOTE From Dolores - Colette’s books are available from
my Online catalog at: http://www.sugarcraft.com (go to BOOKS)
Tuppy 2: what do colette's cakes go for in NYC?
CCChefPwd: Collette has the wonderful art background
that makes her work so neat.
Icing Wiz: I know the one on Oprah went for $20,000
CCChefDol: welll, I can draw and all that but I just
am too busy to do what she does
GOOO8: Wish I'd seen that one!
Angel61048: WHO IS COLETTE?
CCChefDol: Colette Peters, author of cake decorating
books
CCChefPwd: It was in one of the bridal magazines a couple
of years ago - for the prince of Greece
CCChefDol: Gosh Pwd...I didn't know!
KBius: that cake was beautiful unusual
CCChefPwd: She had really short notice with that one
- Something like a month and had to make
Thinkchoc: She also does great window scenes for Tiffany's
at Xmas
CCChefPwd: all of those flowers and fly the cake over
there. Then they did
not want to serve that cake. Wanted her to decorate
little individual
cakes for the guests
Tuppy 2: Does Gloria Weinstock (spelling?) go to the
ices convention? I think that's her name!!
Icing Wiz: she wasn't at last one
CCChefDol: never saw her there
Thinkchoc: I thought that scene with all the gingerbread
was done by Colette
KBius: me too angel
CCChefPwd: Sure would if she would give us permission
to put it on there. Just don't want anybody to think I did her work.
Cindycake1: Did you see the Bridal Guide Magazine for
July/August? 4 really nice cakes
GOOO8: Before I ever took a class, I had one of her books
to browse through and dream ...
CCChefPwd: Colette has one in there Cindy - with the
butterflies and vines
Cindycake1: Yes. I think Ron Ben-Israel is really nice
too
Thinkchoc: Thought the cake by Ron Beth-Israel was great
too
Cindycake1: He used marbled rolled fondant
CCChefPwd: Sylvia Winestock - really beautiful cake of
hers in that July/August issue
Tuppy 2: when doing garlands on tiered cakes, is there
anything I should do differently? Do they have to be aligned?
From Dolores...this question got overlooked...sorry Tuppy.
Yes, they SHOULD be aligned. Align the pillars then align
the garlands too. Unless it is a very large tier, I usually divide the
cake into 8 sections. These should match and align from tier to tier. The
easiest way to make sure the cake IS aligned is to assemble the entire
cake on your turntable, pillars and all. Then mark it off, using the pillars
like "corners" and having a garland swoop up at each pillar, then one in
between (equals 8 garlands).
Shavkin: About Dolores............... If
you go to my web site and scroll down to the bottom of the page.............
you will see a special feature about Dolores' Graduation Cake with instructions
and a nice descriptive link to get to her site.
CCChefDol: ...got LOTS of prizes for that cake : )
Shavkin: Dolores has been so wonderful to me. She
got me started in all of this with
Shavkin: the web site that I will do whatever I can to
show her stuff like the link featured on my site.
CCChefDol: But you were a fast learner too Diane...now
for Pwd :D
Shavkin: I'm really excited about the pictures and instructions
Roland Winbeckler (Marsha actually sent it to me, yesterday),
Roland will be my guest demonstrator in November on my
site. in the demo area. Wonderful demo pictures he did up for me for the
site to share with all of u.
Shavkin: If anyone wants to know about truffles, Gloria
Griffin of Canada is on as the demonstrator for this month. There are pictures
of two of her chocolate pieces. Urns in chocolate with a chocolate
dish on top for candy. Makes nice centerpieces.
Shavkin: Oh, yes, please do see the neat Sweet 16 cake
that L2Jlu did
Shavkin: Pwd your white tiered cake with the puffed
base is there, too.
L2jlu2: That was my first rolled fondant cake and insperation
by Collete
Shavkin: Collette, you should then see the cake that
L2j did with your inspirational ideas. Nice job
L2jlu2: I have alot to learn about it
Shavkin: I saw that cake in "real life" at Nina's sweet
16party back in March! Wonderful job for first-time fondant! Great
fondant work and very attractive!
TIP: Icing Wiz: I use pastry cutter to ice sides
of cake in one swoop
Bridal1: Explain Icing
Icing Wiz: I started a long time ago with drywall smoother
than found pie dough cutter works great
Icing Wiz: I hold pie dough cutter in my right hand and
turntable in my left at same spot then turn the opposite way at the same
time Whala!
Bridal1: I think I see Icing.
CCChefDol: Icing...I hold the bag and knife in my right
hand and the nail in my left hand...faster.. for making roses
ShariE1071: I use double-sided tape the same way, to
stick to my nail and my flower templates
CCChefDol: florist clay stays on even when you wash the
nail
CCChefPwd: That florist clay is wonderful - works like
a charm with such a tiny little bit
GOOO8: I have a question about cake stands. Client
wants 3 graduated free standing stands. Are these easy to find?
Icing Wiz: How much money do you want to spend G0008
CCChefPwd: Cake stand questions?
GOOO8: Not a clue; just met with her tonight and didn't
see what she had in mind in my books. The picture was out of Oct 97 The
Bride and it appears that the bottom was acrylic or glass, elevated by
one center post. Bride to be wants 3 tiers all on separate stands, graduated
heights
Icing Wiz: that is probably acrylic and around $400
CCChefDol: GOOO maybe that was one of the mirrored stands?
GOOO8: Was wondering if these are easy to find? The photo
showed lots of foliage so it was hard to see what the bottoms may have
been.
Tuppy 2: how long has everyone been decorating?
CCChefDol: 34 years
CCChefPwd: 35 + years Tuppy - just a youngster you see
LOL
JWGPKG: You have the full range here tonight! Beginning
to pro!
CCChefDol: sure...started this as an infant LOL ...thats
what makes it fun : )
CCChefPwd: Toddlers with the old icing bags in hand.
KBius: I've only been decorating a couple of years, I'm
sure this new found chatline will help me a lot with all you pros
Thursday June 11th, 1998, 9:00 PM ET -in the Kitchen Conference Room Cake Decorating Chat hosted by CCChefDol and CCChefPwd. Cake Decorating Chat hosted by CCChefDol and CCChefPwd. "Biggest cakes we ever did. Why? for Who?"