Pwd Sugar:  Flowers are made, colored, taped and ready to go on the cake. Cake is decorated and grooms cake is done.  For a change I am ahead of the schedule
Dolores777:  Oh my! ahead!
Pwd Sugar:  Shhhhh....   Don't say that to loud......  LOL
Pwd Sugar:  We counted up all the flowers, leaves and etc that have been made for this one cake Over 2500

Dolores777:  I'm going to be using my 'real' name from now on. Will use that when we do our private chats too. Don't forget...our own worldwide LIVE CHAT is going to be July 6th at 9PM.
Pwd Sugar:  Chefdol is now Dolores777
Pwd Sugar:  Dolores and I both went back to our original screen names
Kakdecor8r:  why did you change your names/?
Dolores777:  Kak...because WE want to LOL...and because we aren't Chefs like AOL named us
Kakdecor8r:  where, chefdol?
Dolores777:  Go to my web site at: http://w3.one.net/~proicer/index.html - you will see the link.
Dolores777:  Try it,  its very simple.

CCChefMeg:  Dolores... I have to tell you a cake mistake... I was nine and we had just moved to the
South. Mom wanted to teach me how to make pound cake... we bought flour in market and went and made the batter and put it in the pans and it rose and rose and spilled over. Mom's cleaning woman was there that day. Mom wondered what had happened. Willie look at he bag and (wish I could do the accent online) "Why, Mrs Brown, this is self rising flour, you don't need to add baking powder!)
Dolores777:  baking soda instead of flour right? oh...self rising flour LOL
Pwd Sugar:  Made a great memory though Meg.
Dolores777:  Meg...that was alife's lesson for your Mother I bet
Pwd Sugar:  I tell the brides that those little things that go wrong are what their memories are going to be made from at their weddings.  You don't remember all the things that go right. Just the things that go wrong.
Dolores777:  I tell them something is suppose to go wrong for GOOD luck
Dolores777:  hey...mine makes sense Pwd...if you think of it that way
Pwd Sugar:  Right Dee - We had lots of memories from my daughters wedding.   LOTS  AND
LOTS of MEMORIES after cleaning them off of the floor
CARJAR4:  At my wedding two guest were dancing and they knocked over the champagne fountain.

MHohimer:  Earlene, I'm sending Shirley Manbeck's confirmation packet to her home, ok?
Pwd Sugar:  OK Millie she is going home on Sunday
DcTyree:  Car what a mess
CARJAR4:  You can't imagine
Dolores777:  oh that’s sticky to dance on
Pwd Sugar:  Thanks very much sweet lady - from Shirley

Wfsufrin:  I'm looking for help on a kosher wedding
Dolores777:  I did the cake once for a Kosher wedding -  yellow cake/raspberry filling/Amaretta poured over...butter icing - But maybe that’s NOT Kosher?
Wfsufrin:  I’m not worried about that. what about eats?
JWGPKG:  Wfsufrin - You could e-mail Cookbear@aol.com.  She does a Jewish spread on Diane Shavkin's website. She's from North Florida, but I'm sure she can help you.
Wfsufrin:  Florida's just New York south and New York's Jewish!

Pwd Sugar:  Those of you who know Jeannie the show chairman from next years show in Michigan.  There is a beautiful article about their place in Michigan in the new Birds and Bloom magazine.
Dolores777:  Oh - I met her!...nice lady too
DcTyree:  Pwd where in Michigan
JWGPKG:  I get that magazine - which article?
Pwd Sugar:  Between Charliouvox and Boyne City July issue
JWGPKG:  Birds and Blooms is a beautiful magazine - makes you want to sit in backyard and sip lemonade
Pwd Sugar:  Page 6 and 7  titled a Woodland Wonder. Her husband has done all the landscaping himself.  It is one beautiful place.
DcTyree:  ok know where that is Im in Michigan too

Dolores777:  I suppose everyone is deep into graduation cakes about now? We have SO many that we had to put up extra tables and still not enough room. We stopped taking orders for this weekend around noon today (Thursday).
CARJAR4:  Dol, I'm afraid to ask how many
Dolores777:  With our great new oven it is impossible. But my daughter Joyce does these cakes...I have enough to do in the office!
Dolores777:  CAR...whos counting...a hundred I suppose  - for the entire weekend. We aren't like a bakery...do detail etc...takes more time so we must cut off

Kakdecor8r:  anyone beside me excited about ICES? its my first time and I can hardly wait
Dolores777:  me Kak!!!
Pwd Sugar:  We are trying to get ready.  Working ahead now on the orders so I
can have some time to make something for ICES
Dolores777:  I know what cake I'm making at least
MHohimer:  Received over 100 registrations Tuesday. We are at the 800 mark now.
Kakdecor8r:  that is so awesome
CarolA5238:  Wow, that's alot of people, I'm getting a bunch excited too!
Dolores777:  Millie...that is just great! You are sure to have a big one
MHohimer:  We hope so - trying hard.
JWGPKG:  Will there be any room for me if I can make it?
Pwd Sugar:  It is going to be so much fun adding your faces to your names.
Kakdecor8r:  there's always room for one more!
MHohimer:  Right, Dol and yes, there is always room for one more.
CarolA5238:  The more the Merrier!

Kakdecor8r:  was thinking about printing some business cards to tuck in with my cakes
Dolores777:  Kak...can your hubby or a friend take orders where they work? You'd get too many
Pwd Sugar:  I put an ad in a phone book last year.  Bad deal.  It was an expensive referral service.
Kakdecor8r:  he works with men, no women
Pwd Sugar:  I never had time to do the phone orders and sent them to the other decorators in town. I cancelled that phone ad this year.
Kakdecor8r:  I get most of my orders form where I work
Dolores777:  Kak...that is PERFECT! Get the guys to order cakes for their wives and he carries them to them
Dolores777:  We have a phone ad but only local...use to carry cakes to Cincinnati and all over and I. put a stop to that
Kakdecor8r:  he did that when he was in the navy, now the wives take care of it
Pwd Sugar:  But Kak those people will tell others and they will tell others and then your business may really take off
Kakdecor8r:  seems like they go in spurts
Dolores777:  summer is a slow time for cakes when you are just getting started.
Kakdecor8r:  have been doing them for awhile though. Last year was my best year so far
Dolores777:  We certainly could use another decorator in Hamilton the way we turned em down
JWGPKG:  Kak, now is the time to do some gumpaste flowers ahead!
Pwd Sugar:  Even after doing them for 40 years they still come in spurts. LOL
Dolores777:  it gets better kak
Kakdecor8r:  I don't know how to do gumpaste yet
JWGPKG:  What state are you from?
Pwd Sugar:  May to August is crammed and the rest of the year is sporadic.
Dolores777:  right on the 'spirts' like this week with graduation
Kakdecor8r:  Texas
Pwd Sugar:  Where in TX Kak
Kakdecor8r:  in Bryan
JWGPKG:  Texas is a big state, but you have some good teachers in your area.
Kakdecor8r:  am about 8 hours from you, pwd
Dolores777:  you sure do have good teachers
Kakdecor8r:  not where I live!!

Dolores777: CLASSES:  I flew to Pwd's town for classes last winter
Kakdecor8r:  I can't even get supplies here!! have to go to Houston or Austin
JWGPKG:  I think the trip would be worth it, especially when Nicholas Lodge comes to Texas!
Pwd Sugar:  But you can order from Dolores and that is at least better than it was before computers
Pwd Sugar:  He is coming back in October of 2000
Kakdecor8r:  am thinking that's what I'm gonna do!!!
Pwd Sugar:  Wyn Grisham is coming this fall to teach pulled sugar if anyone is interested
Kakdecor8r:  when is nick coming to tx?
Pwd Sugar:  Oct 2000
Dolores777:  no one hardly does pulled sugar...that is a great opportunity
Kakdecor8r:  to what town?
Pwd Sugar:  Class will be limited to only 8 students here at my house in Lubbock, TX
Dolores777:  JW...you are also in a booming area for this
Kakdecor8r:  Lubbock is about 8 hrs form me
Pwd Sugar:  Come on up Kak
Dolores777:  not too bad kak...can drive it in a day. The hotel near Pwd is real comfy and cheap
Kakdecor8r:  am sooooooo excited every time I talk to everyone in here!
Kakdecor8r:  am bringing my nick lodge book to get signed!
Dolores777:  I have Nick's $80.00 book with the videos...lessons are great
Kakdecor8r:  I found a book of his at the flea market for $1.00!!!
Dolores777:  Kak...did you try to act 'not' excited?
Pwd Sugar:  That was quite a deal Kak
JWGPKG:  Wow, Kak!  Now, I NEVER run across those kinds of deal!
Kakdecor8r:  ROFL, YES
Kakdecor8r:  also found a whole bunch of wilton books for 25 and 50 cents
Dolores777:  Kak...you hit a gold mine....once I found a real old book for $2.00 and the guy acted apologetic for charging me that much...
Kakdecor8r:  so did this lady!! It was in the bottom of a box of books, she didn't even know it was there
Pfirefly:  I'm sorry I don't know , but who???  and what? do they teach?
Dolores777:  mostly special techniques Pf
Pfirefly:  oh ok the most special I ever got was marshmallow flow and color flow
JWGPKG:  There's a whole new world out there for you, Pfirefly!
Kakdecor8r:  have never done color flow either!
Pwd Sugar:  WOW WHAT A WORLD IS WAITING FOR YOU FIREFLY
Pfirefly:  it's neat
Dolores777:  Pf...those are a good start
Pfirefly:  did a little figure piping when I worked at Costco
Dolores777:  figure piping is always handy to know
Pfirefly:  oh yeah did sugar Easter eggs that was neat. They come out very beautiful. But hard to keep for a long time
JWGPKG:  Pf - mine are lasting pretty well.  I have them in Ziploc bags.
Pfirefly:  will try that next time
Pfirefly:  have not done very much except for lollipops in a long time

JWGPKG:  Florida had a great DOS in January - I learned loads!  I bet Texas does, too. Yes, Florida has become a great place to learn. Florida has Mercedes Strawchsky!
Pwd Sugar:  Lucky Florida. She is one talented lady
Dolores777:  I hope I get to see her demo at ICES this time
JWGPKG:  When I saw her entries at Orlando convention, I thought - Who is this Mercedes?
Now I know!
Pwd Sugar:  I would love to have a class with her.
Dolores777:  me too
JWGPKG:  She's very earthy and funny to work with.

Chrismrisa:  Is there something I can substitute for Butavan?
Dolores777:  Chris...that is an emulsion...real thick and creamy. That stuff is like Creme Bouquet...emulsion is thicker and very strong
Dolores777:  if you use too much Cr B, it is bitter
CarolA5238:  I tried the creme bouquet in the white cake mix and tasted great. My customers like in the white whipped cream icing.
Dolores777:  I like that too Carol, not so sweet I think
Pwd Sugar:  Strong butter and vanilla flavoring.   I now have it available for you.
Kakdecor8r:  what does it taste like, dol
Dolores777:  it just wouldn't be the same to sub butter and vanilla I don't think
Dolores777:  don't taste it alone VERY strong. Pwd's icing is great with it
Pwd Sugar:  If you don't have it - that is all I can think of to come close
Kakdecor8r:  do you use it as a flavoring?
Dolores777:  Kak...this is what it is
Pwd Sugar:  Tasting it alone - bad idea - it is so strong it is bitter
Kakdecor8r:  but it has a vanilla/butter taste? Have seen it mentioned, but never knew what it was
Pwd Sugar:  I use it in flavoring all the cakes and icing. Strong vanilla/butter taste
JWGPKG:  Pwd - how much would you use per cake mix?
Kakdecor8r:  can you add to box mixes or just scratch
Pwd Sugar:  2 t. probably
Dolores777:  I don't think you can duplicate Butavan
Chef Nana1:  can these emulsions be stored at room temp?
Dolores777:  Yes Chef
Kakdecor8r:  i usually make my icing almond flavor
Pwd Sugar:  I don't measure it.  It is very thick and I just pour a dollop in.  LOL
Kakdecor8r:  how much to icing, 1/2 tsp
Dolores777:  I use 3 flavors....butter, vanilla and almond
JWGPKG:  I've used it in my icing, but not the cakes yet.
Pwd Sugar:  I did try measuring a dollop once and that was about 1 tablespoon.
Pfirefly:  I'll tell you one thing I swore by when I was doing heavy decorating. That was the icing stabilizer
Kakdecor8r:  add 1 tbsp for icing?
Pwd Sugar:  right about 1 tblsp for 5 lbs of pwd sugar
Kakdecor8r:  don't have a mixer that big!!
Pwd Sugar:  I even put Butavan in the flavored cakes such as the Kaluaha Fudge, lemon and etc.
CarolA5238:  I got try that Kaluaha Fudge cake sometime, I bet its great.
GOOO8:  The kahlua cake is quite delicious.
Pfirefly:  Where do I find this Kahlua cake????
Pwd Sugar:  Go to my web site and check the recipes http://hometown.aol.com/pwdsugar/index.html

Dolores777:  Kak...have you browsed Pwd's recipes? They are great with this stuff
Kakdecor8r:  yes, but printer was not working, have a ton to print now! LOL I like to print and keep with my cake "stuff"
Dolores777:  Kak...can save to file too...Just copy/paste -I'd run out of paper LOL
Kakdecor8r:  my hubby gave me an old tool box of his that has drawers got all my cake stuff in it!! I put contact paper inside. But I still have some overflow!!
Pwd Sugar:  I had to move my work area into the other room and did the same thing Kak. I am finally getting used to having it in there.

Cakecherub:  Dol, on those cakes in a jar on your website-can you just use a mix??
Dolores777:  of course Cake...use the heavy carrot cakes etc, not DH
Dolores777:  I make a box-mix carrot cake...just doctor it up with more
spices and more carrots and nuts

Dolores777:  Hi MAMA...how is your show coming along? Any news?
MAMATENN:  working at it. Can't wait for convention !!!!

GOOO8:  I have been tracking down lighting info for the Convention Center. They have mercury vapor lights. I called the camera store to inquire and learned there are a couple of diff. kinds of mvl's.
Dolores777:  why GOOO? are those bad lights
GOOO8:  No, am still learning, just wanted to have the proper film speed. Have heard 400 and others say 800 now with these lights I may buy a filter. I don't know all the specifics as I have to call the guy bk at the conv. ctr. to find out what type of mercury vapor lights they are
Kakdecor8r:  Walmart had disposable camera for $5.
Dolores777:  Pwd...GOOO is talking about a digital camera I think
GOOO8:  I will keep you informed.  No, mine is a Minolta Maxxum

Dolores777:  I'm bringing a couple of very simple 'good idea' cakes this time.... one using GP flowers and one buttercream...subbing royal for the show
Pwd Sugar:  Shirley and I are thinking of doing dueling castles

Chrismrisa:  Dol, your rolled buttercream fondant calls for Karo.  Is that the corn syrup?
Dolores777:  Karo IS corn syrup, yes

MAMATENN:   Dol...I was in Memphis 2 wks. ago at a reception for Francis K.
Dolores777:  Fran was there? How is she?
MAMATENN:  Just Fine !! Fran might be paying a visit to Tenn.s   DOS in March
MAMATENN:  Have my fingers crossed
Kakdecor8r:  just people I work with
Dolores777:  how'd you manage that Mama?
MAMATENN:  Purer luck   lol
Dolores777:  Mama...did you see her on Howie Mandell's show?
MAMATENN:  she will be visiting again in the spring - i saw all the tapes
Dolores777:  Carol...our rep let us put an order in a week or more ago
Dolores777:  Fran is so funny
MAMATENN:  we were rolling in the floor

Pfirefly:  hey is there a Blues Clues cake pan out there yet?
Dolores777:  not in yet Pf...available July 10th now.
CarolA5238:  I heard the blue's clues cake pan was in N.Y. but just heard It can't be found there, I'm confused, I know its going to be around this summer.
Pwd Sugar:  New Wilton's yearbook is usually out at convention maybe they will have it available
Dolores777:  Carol...Wilton has let us order it and we all don't know exactly when it is going to ship... not even Wilton themselves.
CarolA5238:  Oh, My account said something about getting the pan this summer.
Kakdecor8r:  did you ever find that snoopy pan?
Pfirefly:  I want one desperately
Dolores777:  Snoopy - they are not releasing a pan
Kakdecor8r:  is it ok to copy pictures from coloring books to put on cakes?
Kakdecor8r:  I did that with Rugrats
Pwd Sugar:  Copyrighted pictures even from color books should not be sold.
Pwd Sugar:  You can do them for your family and friends legally as long as you don't charge for them
Kakdecor8r:  oops, that's how I usually get them on cakes, but what if they give my money in "appreciation"
Dolores777:  nope Kak...been thought of and tried
Kakdecor8r:  oops, I've been coping invitations etc..
JWGPKG:  Kak - could be dangerous unless you really know the person.  It's a gamble.
Kakdecor8r:  will be sure I'm more careful about the pictures I use from now on!
Dolores777:  10,000.00 gamble!
Pfirefly:  my cakes are mostly for relatives now--no one pays
Pfirefly:  I remember doing a Pound Puppie one way back with the edible paper, traced it on. Came out beautiful

HELTONSS:  Dolores I printed off your dragon idea today...could you please tell me what summer coating
Dolores777:  summer coating is the true name for coating chocolate...like Merckens
HELTONSS:  Thanks haven't ever seen the word

Kakdecor8r:  I’ve been using the frozen buttercream method, pj
Pfirefly:  frozen buttercream???? what is that?
Kakdecor8r:  will email you the directions, pf

Dolores777:  I counted how many frosting sheets I've printed just for one company today...237 pictures. More really, sometimes one person gets 2 and I didn't  count that. I make about $4.00 clear on each one. Guess my KopyJet has  paid for itself! But I want the large one. It prints 11x17 sheets.
Pfirefly:  what is a frosting sheet
GOOO8:  i haven't heard of it either
Pwd Sugar:  It is new Pfirefly
Dolores777:  it IS frosting...print with coloring and put it on the cake...cut right through it
JWGPKG:  Pf - don't feel dumb.  We are all still learning.
Ciera123:  Dolores what do you charge for a picture from your Kopyjet???
HELTONSS:  what is  frosting sheet-sounds neat
Dolores777:  I charge $7.00 local or $6.00 to the company that we print so many for
Pwd Sugar:  Sort of an edible image that sounds more edible than the old rice paper images
Dolores777:  I could already have bought 2-3 more printers with the money I've already made
Ising C:  they are going for $10 here in wv
Dolores777:  Ising...Krogers sell them for $7.00 too...probably because they called us LOL
Kakdecor8r:  they had pictures of my sons class put on their graduation cakes
Pfirefly:  how does it work
Pwd Sugar:  Dolores is the only one I know of that has one.  So she will have to tell you.
Dolores777:  Pf...is a simple printer...deskjet...print on edible paper with food coloring
Ising C:  foodland will do the images, but you have to buy the cake also from them
Ising C:  but celebrations is selling just the print out for 10
Dolores777:  Ising...way with Krogers too. We sell them for $7.00 via mail order and about $2.00 poastage. Cheaper Ising C!
Ising C:  she just got the machine this week and the next morning did 6 sheets

Kakdecor8r:  do you sell replacement parts for kopykake’s
Kakdecor8r:  I got one at an auction, but its missing the lens
Dolores777:  YES we sell parts...they are listed
Kakdecor8r:  got it for $20., but it needs the lens
Dolores777:  Lens is sold sep....be sure to get the right one tho

GOOO8:  Has anyone noticed some of the Wilton supplies on "clearance" now?
Pfirefly:  AC Moore has them on sale a lot
Dolores777:  GOOO...June is the end of Wilton's physical year that’s why
GOOO8:  Michael's Arts and Crafts
Kakdecor8r:  we only have Walmart here that has cake stuff
Dolores777:  Wilton is getting ready for the new Yearbook and new stuff
GOOO8:  said they were making room for new merchandise.
JWGPKG:  Oh, I'm due back at the cake shops again!
Kakdecor8r:  the Wilton book comes out in Aug, right?
Dolores777:  no - more like the 3rd wk of July
Kakdecor8r:  have never found it that early
Dolores777:  Well…check out our web site. They’ll be there the day they arrive here! THIS year Wilton has a very special hardback yearbook collector one. This will be limited edition available only while it lasts. You can order it NOW, from me. Many people have already.

LauraJMD:  I have an airbrush question......Any preferences?  style..model..etc?
Dolores777:  YES - The AIRMASTER...hands down, no contest
Kakdecor8r:  have only used my airbrush for backgrounds
LauraJMD:  Dol..does Wilton sell the Airmaster?
Swtelegnt:  I prefer the Aztec air brush
Dolores777:  I LOVE my Airmaster. The pressure couldn't be easier to control
Kakdecor8r:  have used regular coloring in water, is that wrong?
Pwd Sugar:  Isn't the Airmaster the compressor?
Dolores777:  Kak...never use anything in the airbrush but airbrush color...will be all gummed up
MAMATENN:  You need air brush colors
Pwd Sugar:  Kak you need to get the coloring specifically for the airbrush.
Kakdecor8r:  have always flushed well with water
Dolores777:  when it gums up you have to take it ALL apart and soak and clean it
Kakdecor8r:  even with the Wilton coloring?
Dolores777:  Kak...only the very thin airbrush colors
MAMATENN:  Wilton doesn't have air brush colors
LauraJMD:  How do the airbrushes rate that are sold in the Wilton Yearbook ..pg 113 of '99 yearbook?
Dolores777:  over priced Laura. And not one bit better than Airmaster!
LauraJMD:  Dol..besides cost..how do they rate re. quality??
Dolores777:  same as KopyKake's Airmaster- no better. Wilton just lives on their name since they are the only company most decorators even know about…welll. ..until we got the web LOL.

YouGoSteph:  im looking for a person to decorate my wedding cake. Does anyone recommend someone in Atlanta
GOOO8:  I personally don't know someone in Atlanta...sorry
YouGoSteph:  does anyone in here do wedding cakes?
Dolores777:  all of us do
YouGoSteph:  really?
Pfirefly:  yes
Ising C:  try contacting the local cake decorating shops for their recommendations of cake decorators
Pwd Sugar:  LOL - you are in the right room Steph....
YouGoSteph:  can u guys give me some suggestions?
JWGPKG:  Does Nick do wedding cakes "for hire"?
Pfirefly:  what are you looking for
YouGoSteph:  i am looking for a baker that bakes kosher cakes....
Dolores777:  You...ask everyone you know! Keep asking!...does Nick take cake orders Pwd?
YouGoSteph:  almost impossible
Pwd Sugar:  If you found a time he could do it at his price he probably would
YouGoSteph:  who pwd
Pwd Sugar:  Nicholas Lodge
Kakdecor8r:  don't think I could afford one of his flowers!!!
Dolores777:  there you go --- You...Nick is the very best in the world...right near you too
YouGoSteph:  in Atlanta?
Dolores777:  yes
YouGoSteph:  do u know his email
YouGoSteph:  cool
JWGPKG:  Yes, he teaches in Atlanta.
Pwd Sugar:  He is in the Atlanta area and his business could probably recommend someone for you
Dolores777:  nicklodge1@aol.com
YouGoSteph:  kosher too?
Pfirefly:  me too
Dolores777:  there is a BIG cake decorating supply shop near you too...maybe they can tell you
YouGoSteph:  it is impossible to find a person that does kosher
GOOO8:  If anyone knows lots of decorators, I'm sure he would be one that does.
YouGoSteph:  Where is Dolores?
Dolores777:  I am in southern Ohio…8 hours from you.
Kakdecor8r:  pf, seems like you got bit again!!!!
Dolores777:  Nick knows everything...teaches all over the world in fact
Pfirefly:  I has I has
YouGoSteph:  I think I found my cake net but for some reason i cant get back to it
YouGoSteph:  I printed it
Swtelegnt:  Steph, ask at you your synagogue, they usually know of someone to recommend
Dolores777:  You...check the phone book...this is BIG store I understand. But Nick is best
YouGoSteph:  is rolled fondant better than butter cream?
Dolores777:  Nick also has a store...may be in the ph book...can't be prettier for sure
GOOO8:  caterers might be another point of reference
Pwd Sugar:  Not better - different… different taste and texture
YouGoSteph:  which in your opinion is better>
YouGoSteph:  i know one is smooth
Dolores777:  I'd definitely go for fondant
Pwd Sugar:  They have different looks.  Depends on the style of cake you want.
YouGoSteph:  i know nothing about cakes
Dolores777:  Keep checking around us...we can help you
JWGPKG:  Different tastes and textures, too.
GOOO8:  be sure to taste someone's product
YouGoSteph:  over piped buttercream?? what is that
Dolores777:  You...because it is the most elegant there is
Kakdecor8r:  buttercream tastes better
YouGoSteph:  fondant = elegant?
HELTONSS:  Fondant is the most elegant!
GOOO8:  I’m currently in the final stages of a wedding cake class and my project is fondant cakes this week
Pwd Sugar:  buttercream is soft and rolled fondant is more like fudge consistency
YouGoSteph:  I cant decide what to do about fondant vs buttercream
MAMATENN:  It taste real good..Steph
YouGoSteph:  I have a yr....dolor
Dolores777:  You...so you don't lose track of us...visit us on my web site anytime here:
http://w3.one.net/~proicer/index.html - there is a message board so you can ask any question anytime
GOOO8:  Yes, you, write that site down -- it's a good one.
HELTONSS:  Steph, you should set down with  the decorator and taste the different options

YouGoSteph:  does anyone recommend rum washes?
Dolores777:  rum poured over the cake?
YouGoSteph:  brushed on the cake before icing it-so none has heard of rum washes?
MAMATENN:  Rum washes are good
Kakdecor8r:  is that what you drink when you eat store bought cake?
Dolores777:  I've poured rum over the cake before icing it...is this it?
YouGoSteph:  I think it is brushed on with a basting brush
MAMATENN:  brush it on not pour
YouGoSteph:  it is a mixture,.,. of rum...water...and corn syrup. I think it helps to hold i the moisture
Dolores777:  You...why mix rum with water???? It is better if 100 proof for best taste
Dolores777:  same thing...I pour it...on the bare cake 100 proof is all that really makes a good flavor.
JWGPKG:  I had some wedding cake that had something like Steph is talking about.
YouGoSteph:  jwg....did u like the concept
JWGPKG:  I think it's a Spanish-type of technique.  They also use it a lot on Hispanic cakes in Miami. It was pretty good - very moist, but also very sweet.
MAMATENN:  what is the other one grand mar.  ? orange
Dolores777:  yes MAMA...I have used that too...poured a fifth on a 16-12-9-7 and it was not soggy
YouGoSteph:  no...not really for the full affect of flavor....just moisture
Swtelegnt:  steph, since you have the restriction of kosher, you really should talk with the person that will be doing the cake. to see what they advise is best.

YouGoSteph:  is $3.10per slice expensive?
Dolores777:  You...for this price I'd expect a decent buttercream cake at least]
JWGPKG:  Depends - some go for much more - especially in NY! A lot depends on region you're in.
Kakdecor8r:  here, $3.10 is very expensive
Dolores777:  here too, but NOT for rolled fondant with curtains or lace points
Swtelegnt:  here, $3.10 would be mid range, mostly buttercream
 

GOOO8:  question about the new log in site for july 6 chat ...can I use the same log in and pass word from my work and my home?
Dolores777:  The cooking club is being deleted too
Dolores777:  AOL doesn't need it - they pay the owner of the cooking club now...stopping
MAMATENN:  What are you doing after AOL ...Dol?
HELTONSS:  No more chat?
Dolores777:  no more chats, right
Dolores777:  MAMA...we are going to my web site once a month at 9PM...1st Tuesday...June 6th is the first chat there. The link is all set now
Pwd Sugar:  Just changing nights and for now going to once a month. Go to my web site, then go in the chat
Dolores777:  aol is rich now...they don't want us
Kakdecor8r:  is that for all of the kitchen . dol
Kakdecor8r:  will put in my Fav. place
Dolores777:  yes Kat...ALL ……the entire cooking club
Swtelegnt:  dol, I hope that’s July 6th, right?
Dolores777:  yes July 6th
Dolores777:  we're all dropping aol when it happens

MAMATENN:  Did you see Carole Faxon"s web sight? what time?
Dolores777:  Carol has a web site???? I tried to convince her a long time ago to do it
Pwd Sugar:  Where is Carol's web site. Do you have the address or link?
Dolores777:  what is her URL?
MAMATENN:  www.carouselent.com

GOOO8:  can I start packing my bags for convention yet?   :^)
Kakdecor8r:  am gonna take a separate suitcase for stuff that I but there!
MAMATENN:   just ship it home

Pwd Sugar:  Night all the castle is calling to have its parts uncovered so it can finish drying.