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Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: Invoices/Accounting
     Date: Fri Feb 20 23:25:37 1998

     Message:

     I have a Peachtree accounting program i use for my cake business and i really don't like it. Does anyone else use a    program for Invoices/Accounting/Inventory.     THANKS..........

Author: Loydene
     Subject: Invoice/Accounting
     Date: Sat Feb 21 15:12:47 1998

     Message:

     I use Complete Peachtree for our family business and just love it but I have used DACeasy for Windows which is   quite easy to use.

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Invoices/Accounting
     Date: Sun Feb 22 21:34:56 1998

     Message:

     We use several programs. If I'd sit down and learn it, I suppose Access by Microsoft is the best. Quickbooks by   Intuit may be the most popular.
     We just got a new electronic cash register. It came with a program ($2,000.00 for the prog.) It reads bar codes,    removes items from inventory as they are sold and is wonderful.
     We are now using My Invoice by My Software Co. for Invoicing. Sue isn't quite happy with it. For payroll I use    PC Payroll. Its quick & easy.

Author: Deeanne Slone
     Subject: Cake boards
     Date: Fri Feb 20 22:03:40 1998

     Message:

     I have been baking cakes for a few years for family and friends but now I am beginning to bake more and more    for other people.
     I would like to offer good products at maximum profit. Does anyone know of a source of inexpensive cardboard    cake boards such as sheet and orund. THe local cake decorating store charges over $1.00 for a 9 x 14 board,    which I feel is too expensive. I'd also like to find matching plain white cake boxes. Any suggestions appreciated!

Author: Kathy M.
     Subject: cake boards and boxes
     Date: Sat Feb 21 09:13:27 1998

     Message:

     Hi Deeanne, I think Delores has boards and circles (I'm not sure about boxes). Also I have a mail-order cake   decorating supplies business (reduced rates) where I also have boards, circles and boxes in all different sizes.   Please e-mail me if you would like more information.      Kathy M.

Author: RobinG
     Subject: Boxes/Boards
     Date: Sat Feb 21 00:28:56 1998

     Message:

     Hi Deeanne: I must tell you, the price of paper products has been on the rise. I can't believe some of the increases    I've had recently. I suggest if you have a restaurant or bakery supply near you, maybe you can contact them. You    will have to buy in bulk but it may be worth your while. What state are you in, maybe someone on the board is    near you and can help. I'm in NJ, so if I can be of help, please feel free to contact me. Good Luck! RobinG

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Cake boards
     Date: Sun Feb 22 21:43:09 1998

     Message:

     Food for thought....
     The cost of packaging goods IS a factor to reckon with. BUT- it certainly enhances your business to put out a    nicely packaged creation. I found that when I got to your level of baking I had to raise my prices to allow for the    extra cost of pretty packaging. I don't see what choice you have - even if you buy in bulk, you shouldn't absorb    the extra cost. Is it worth having your money tied up to buy in bulk?
     TIP: with every cake we sell, we made a label to attach explaining how to handle the cake storage...saves
     questions.    You might want to check out our paper goods prices here to get an idea of price ranges. I know its expensive!

Author: Dora
     Subject: Panoramic Eggs
     Date: Fri Feb 20 21:11:30 1998

     Message:

     I am interested in making a panoramic egg but have never done it before. I saw Wilton's panoramic egg kit but I    would rather learn to figure pipe the decorations myself. Can anyone recommend a good book to learn from?     Thank you,     Dora

Author: Jackie N.
     Subject: panoramic eggs
     Date: Sat Feb 21 21:35:47 1998

     Message:

     Wilton yearbooks and their Celebrate! books have some great examples of cute figure-piping. Another source is    the famous Roland Winbeckler...check out his figure-piping book!     Have fun and good luck!
     Jackie

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Panoramic Eggs
     Date: Sun Feb 22 21:46:36 1998

     Message:

     I love to make those Panorama eggs! Have you checked my big egg out under my Cake Photos? The recipe is   there and pict.
     You may need the kit since it contains the molds. I don't think the lit contains any edible decorations for inside.   Just pipe those with royal icing.

Author: Dora
     Subject: Re: Re: Panoramic Eggs
     Date: Mon Feb 23 11:28:01 1998

     Message:

     Dolores, your egg is beautiful! Where did you get your directions for the figure piping? I would be interested in   names of any books you recommend.     Thank you,     Dora

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Re: Re: Panoramic Eggs
     Date: Tue Feb 24 09:28:40 1998

     Message:

     Where did you get your directions for the figure piping? I would be interested in   names of any books you recommend.
     Glad you liked my egg. I got the idea from looking at some flat plastic picks we sell. I think they were by Bakery   Craft.
     Book: I really like PANORAMA PAGEANTRY by Mary Beth Enderson. Its $4.50. We sell a lot of this book.    It contains lots of great decorating ideas. Lots! There aren't really many books written on this subject. I don't   know of others. Maybe someone else does.

Author: Shanon
     Subject: Salted vs. Unsalted Butter
     Date: Fri Feb 20 18:45:15 1998

     Message:

     No arguing now.... Just tell me when I make a buttercream should I use unsalted or salted butter. If I use salted   do I delete the pinch of salt? Thanks

Author: mickey
     Subject: use unsalted/omit salt if not
     Date: Fri Feb 20 20:28:33 1998

use unsalted/omit salt if not
 

Author: sherry
     Subject: when buttercream melts royal?
     Date: Fri Feb 20 17:10:03 1998

     Message:

     I am getting prepared to make my 3rd wedding cake next week and made some royal frosting drop flowers
     ahead of time. How far in advance (in hours) can I put them on the buttercream without fear of them disinegrating?     Thanks.

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: when buttercream melts royal?
     Date: Fri Feb 20 17:26:16 1998

     Message:

     I don't think you have to worry about the buttercream disintegrating the royal icing flowers. I decorated a wedding    cake with royal icing flowers the night before the wedding and they were fine by the time the cake was cut at    about 1 p.m. (the cake sat decorated at least 12 hours). I have also saved some flowers from other cakes I had    decorated with buttercream icing still on them. I had let them sit at least 24 hours before I had time to clean the    buttercream icing off of them. After I cleaned them they were fine. It's when you get oil in the royal icing when you    mix it which will cause the breakdown. That is why it is necessary to have all mixing bowls and utensils oil free. I    have also put a very, very thin coat of crisco on to the foil before piping my royal icing flowers on them. Makes it    easier to remove the flower from the foil after it dries with less breakage. I read this tip in one of the chats.

Author: Sherry
     Subject: thanks tracey
     Date: Fri Feb 20 19:49:37 1998

     Message:

     Tracey,     thanks so much for your help. I had read that you shouldn't put the flowers directly onto the cake, but now I won't     worry at all!

Author: mickey
     Subject: Re: when buttercream melts royal?
     Date: Fri Feb 20 20:24:59 1998

     Message:

     Just an addition to removing flowers, or any other royal items. If you grease or oil paper, surface, whatever you're    using, when you go to take them off, use a little bit of heat, like a light bulb, or very low burner, hold them over   briefly, just basically to heat the oil, and the items will come off quite easily.  Mickey

Author: jen
     Subject: Dolores' online catalog
     Date: Fri Feb 20 15:38:56 1998

     Message:

     I have been trying to see what size cake boxes there are for sale. But when I click on that, Netscape says unable   to find file. Is anybody else having that problem or am I doing something wrong?

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Dolores' online catalog
     Date: Sun Feb 22 21:48:44 1998

     Message:

     Are you still having problems with that? We don't have all of our boxes listed yet but we are trying. I think the   server here was down one day last week.

Author: Kathy M.
     Subject: Color Flow Icing
     Date: Fri Feb 20 15:34:00 1998

     Message:

     Do any of you like working with color flow icing? If so, do you have any good tips? Also is it hard to cut and eat?    I've just gotten the contract to provide the cake for our monthly "I Care" award meetings where I work. The   bakery    that had been doing them up until now were writing
     "I Care" in block letters on the cake with Cream Cheese icing. I thought I would make a stencil and do it useing   Color Flow icing. Any ideas? Thanks a bunch.    Kathy M.

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: Color Flow Icing
     Date: Fri Feb 20 17:12:23 1998

     Message:

     I love working with color flow icing you can get a lot of detail into the picture. You can make it weeks in advance   before you use it. Color flow pieces dry very hard and is edible. I don't think you can cut it but you can crack it.
     Have you taken the Wilton cake decorating coarses? Dolores' also has an explanation of color flow icing on her   site under special techniques. This type of icing crusts very fast so keep it covered with a damp towel when you   are not using it. You can also paint on a color flow piece if you choose to unsing the coloring paste. Good luck.

Author: Kathy M.
     Subject: Color Flow Icing
     Date: Fri Feb 20 19:40:17 1998

     Message:

     Thanks Tracey, No I have never taken any classes.Back when they were giving classes in my area, I wasn't   interested. Later when I became interested, there were no classes around so I bought books and learned by   reading and practicing on all of my family and friends.
     Now I actually get paid and have all I can do and still work my daytime job (drafting).There is still lots I need to   learn . . . such as color flow, but I think for the "I Care" cakes I will probably forget about doing them with color   flow since it can't be cut. I love this board, there are so many helpful hints.      Kathy

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: Color Flow Icing
     Date: Sat Feb 21 13:29:25 1998

     Message:

     Hi Kathy,
     You can remove the color flow piece from the cake before you cut it. I have had people remove it from the cake   and save it as a momento of the occasion. You can use the frozen buttercream technique as another option to   decorate your cake. I think the instructions for this is still on the American Cake Decorating Magazine site at   www.cakemag.com . If it isn't there let me know and I can e-mail it to you.

Author: Kathy M.
     Subject: Frozen Butter Cream
     Date: Sun Feb 22 00:28:42 1998

     Message:

     Tracey, Thanks for the info. I checked on the directions for frozen butter cream, I'm going to try that one.
Kathy M.

Author: lynne
     Subject: covering royal icing
     Date: Sat Feb 21 02:03:41 1998

     Message:
     hi all; i really think covering royal or color-flow icing with a damp towel will cause more problems than solve.    instead use plastic wrap.
     see the icing will pick up/absorb the moisture from the damp towel and royal will become color-flow even if you    don't want it to!      lynne

Author: jen
     Subject: When you are charging......
     Date: Fri Feb 20 12:08:07 1998

     Message:

     When you are charging for a wedding cake and you say it's a $1 a serving or (whatever it is). Is that price
     including the hardware? Or is that what you charge before hardware? Thanks for any responses.

Author: Jeff Arnett
     Subject: Wedding cakes prices
     Date: Fri Feb 20 17:07:38 1998

     Message:

     Most decorators charge a separate deposit for their plastic plates and pillars or stands. When returned in good   condition, this small deposit is refunded.
     Most brides have no use for a set of pillars and plates so this seems to be the most common route. If you do not    want the plastic returned, figure out how much it costs, add to the cost of the of the cake, then redivide to arrive at    a new cost-per-serving price.

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: When you are charging......
     Date: Sun Feb 22 21:57:17 1998

     Message:

     My cost per serving is listed with each cake in my album. My price includes everything in the picture. If a cake  fountain is shown, the cost of this is also incorporated in the cost. My label reads something like this:
     Serves 100 to 120 $130.00
     If it is possible to make the cake larger or smaller, these prices are also listed on the label.
     If there are variances they are listed below the servings.
     Having each cake priced cuts WAY down on the time it takes you to get the order completed.
     I also have a 'cheat sheet' of 'extras' which can be requested. Such as another color/flavor of cake etc. By
     charging only for what is done, I can keep my cost lower to budget-minded brides. AND - I won't get cheated by    SOME of the others...like those that try to get a price commital then start 'adding'.
     Besides this, as Jeff mentioned, I add a deposit fee to ensure the safe return of my plastic parts.

Author: Donna
     Subject: Re:
     Date: Fri Feb 20 00:39:10 1998

     Message:

     Since I have found this board my interest in cake decorating has been pushed into high gear...I have usually only   decorated character cakes for my family members..But now I would really like to get serious and learn to really    decorate cakes....
     What I would like to know is what tools do you think I need to help me decorate.. I should tell you I had
     purchased the 5 course lesson from Wilton years ago and it came with tips, practice board, nails for making roses   and a couple of other things.. But I want to know the tools that you the professionals feel you can't live without..
     Also any books that helped you out in your early years of decorating...I am still trying to find some place that gives   lessons... Have a few leads and I am still checking them out.
     So thank you for any help you can give me..      Donna: Donna
     Subject: What tools do I need-left it out in subject box (nt)
     Date: Fri Feb 20 00:43:12 1998
What tools do I need-left it out in subject box (nt)

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: Re:
     Date: Fri Feb 20 13:56:31 1998

     Message:

     Hi Donna,

     I'm not a professional but I could not live without my cake icer tip. It makes icing your cake so much faster. I also    could not live without my lazy susan or turn table.

Author: Donna
     Subject: the icer tip
     Date: Fri Feb 20 15:20:47 1998

     Message:

     Hi. Tracy,     Thank you for the info... Is that the name of the tip or does it have a number...
     If there is anything else you can think off let me know..I figured that the people who have decorated cakes for a   long time now know what makes life easier in the decorating world...  Again thanks.     Donna

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: the icer tip
     Date: Fri Feb 20 17:00:08 1998

     Message:

     I don't remember the number of the icer tip right now. Maybe someone here will give it to you before I can get   back to you on it. But you can't miss it in the store. It is a huge tip which does not fit any coupler. I looks like a   giant version of the flat tip you use when making the basket weave design on cakes.
     Also, I could not live without my baking strips. You soad them in water and wrap them around your cake pan   when baking your cakes.

Author: Shirley W
     Subject:
     Date: Fri Feb 20 18:00:45 1998

 icer tip is Wilton #789
 

Author: Mary
     Subject: can't do without...
     Date: Fri Feb 20 16:29:55 1998

     Message:

     Not only can I not do without my turntable and 789 cake icer tip, but I don't bake without Bake even strips or ice   a cake without a good long straight spatula. There is a Wilton book about decorating tips and different   borders/side work. It's great for ideas when you are drawing a blank.

Author: Donna
     Subject: re:Thank you.
     Date: Sat Feb 21 00:43:17 1998

     Message:

     Just wanted to say thank you too everyone who responded...I have put these items on my shopping list...If you  can think of any other things please let me know...     Donna

Author: Val
     Subject: Ballerina Cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:55:31 1998

     Message:

     Any suggestions for a ballerina cake? It only needs to serve 15 people. I thought of using the doll pan but can't   figure out how to make the short skirt and the skinny legs so I gave up on that. Any suggestions would be   appreciated!!! Thanks everyone and Dolores I love this board!! I come here everytime I get online!! I am afraid I   will miss something!!

Author: Valerie
     Subject: Ballerina Cake
     Date: Fri Feb 20 00:17:42 1998

     Message:

     Hi Val,

     Wilton had a Ballerina Bear Pan last year. Didn't see it in the book for this year, tho.
     You could use the Barbie pan. I like to melt candy melts, tinted a fleshtone and pour them into the pan to mold the    face, upper torso and arms. It just takes a minute in the fridge and then pops right out. I then add the colors of the    eyes, etc. Icing hair, clothes, etc. You would not necessarily have to make legs, but make it look like she is    wearing a long, tutu (or whatever it's called.) You could make icing ballet slippers showing at the bottom.
     Or, just use a sheet cake and find a picture. Coloring books are good places to look. You could then draw the    ballerina on your sheet cake with icing and/or airbrush. Or, "paint" the picture on wafer paper, then transfer to the    cake top.
     Don't know if this is much help. Good luck and have fun with it.     Valerie

Author: Val
     Subject: Appreciate help
     Date: Sat Feb 21 23:27:15 1998

     Message:

     Thanks to all of you for your help. Lynn, I would consider myself a rather advanced decorator so I could handle   any type of decorating. I will consider all your ideas and decide what I'm going to do. Thanks again.

Author: Kathy
     Subject: ballerina cake
     Date: Fri Feb 20 00:35:27 1998

     Message:

     I did a ballerina cake over 20 years ago for my daughter's birthday. I used a doll pick (in a 1/4 sheet cake). The   ballerina's legs were figure piped of buttercream and posed as though she was sitting - one leg straight and the   other angled back. I piped ballet slippers on her feet and secured her hair on top of her head. The top of her tutu    was done with a star tip and the skirt with a #125 in two rows of ruffles. I placed roses around her as though she    was sitting in a field of flowers. It might be hard to visualize with my description, but good luck!

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: Ballerina Cake
     Date: Sat Feb 21 02:15:55 1998

     Message:

     hi val; you didn't give us any clue how intricate your decorating is. a rather easy idea would be to just use a pair of    toe shoes on a sheet cake. after tracing the basic outline just fill in w/pink stars. i have see this idea in several   books, but can't right off remember where.     lynne

Author: Laurie W.
     Subject: Retirement Cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 22:02:22 1998

     Message:

     Does anyone have any ideas for a retirement cake for an attorney?

Author: Anonymous
     Subject: Re: Retirement Cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 22:56:15 1998

     Message:

     how about a snake being ran over in traffic ?

Author: Susan
     Subject: Snake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:19:10 1998

     Message:

     I just have to say that your answer was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing. Thanks for the laugh! I don't know who   you are but you have a great sense of humor     Susan

Author: Susan
     Subject: Retirement cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:25:27 1998

     Message:

     You could do the justice scales one side up with the word work, the other side lower with the with the word   relaxation on it or something to that effect.
     Or maybe a gavel. I am sure that some one will come up with the right idea. I don't think you better use the snake   one though!!! Even though it was soooo funny.     Susan

Author: Leah
     Subject: Cake Recipe
     Date: Thu Feb 19 15:10:15 1998

     Message:

     I am fairly new to cake decorating and the entire baking scene. I have taken two Wilton classes and am currently    signed up for the third. My question is regarding the cake, not the decorations or the icing. Do most bakers use    box cake mixes or are they from scratch? If so, is anyone willing to share tips or secrets with a beginner? Thanks.

Author: Rebecca
     Subject: Re: Cake Recipe
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:30:09 1998

     Message:

     Hi Leah!

     I'm interested in the answers you get to this question. I'm a beginner, too (haven't taken any classes - just
     practicing at home). I've been using mixes, just because they usually don't take as long to stir up. :-)
     Rebecca

Author: Mindy
     Subject: Re: Re: Cake Recipe
     Date: Fri Feb 20 15:12:20 1998

     Message:

     There are probably dozens of different variations of cake mixes with different add-ins back through the different   pages of this message board. Awhile back, I went back through all of the posts and saved all of the different   recipes and alot of the other tips and hints that have been left here on this board. I saved them to the computer   and then when I had a bunch of them, I transferred them to my word processing program, separating them by  category. IE    buttercream icings, cake mix variations, cake ideas for different occasions, etc. I already have a full notebook .   When you have time to go back through all of the pages, I highly recommend it.

Author: Valerie
     Subject: Cake
     Date: Fri Feb 20 00:34:43 1998

     Message:

     Hi Leah and Rebecca,
     I don't consider myself an expert, although I have been doing cakes for some time now.
     I have the best luck with mixes. In particular..Pillsbury Plus. For some reason I have yet to figure out, that is the  only mix that raises well and comes out very moist and tasty, for me. As soon as it is cool, I crumb coat it. If I   can't get to the icing until later, that keeps it moist.
     About 4 years ago, a friend and I were making a wedding cake. She had come from out-of-town to help me. (any    excuse for a visit) She has been doing mainly wedding cakes for the past 20-odd years. At her suggestion, we    baked the cakes. Then, as soon as the cool-in-the-pan time was up, placed them either on a rack or their board   and placed them in the freezer. (yes, still hot.) A day or two later, we decorated them for the wedding. (Icing   while still frozen!!) A lot less hectic and unbelievably moist and tasty. We received rave reviews. Since then, I   usually always bake my cake the night before, pop it in the freezer and ice it frozen the next day. The icing doesn't   seem to sweat. I do let it set or dry a bit before doing the decorating. I would never have tried it, if it hadn't been   something she did routinely. It is amazing the compliments that they get.
     I'm sure you will get lots of suggestions. That's the great thing about this board. Then you can try them all and find    what works best for you.    Have fun!     Valerie

Author: Ellen B.
     Subject: QUESTION FOR VALERIE - Cakes
     Date: Fri Feb 20 08:51:02 1998

     Message:
     Valerie,
     Do you cover your cakes with foil or plastic wrap before putting them in the freezer? Also, I'm new at this as well,   my next question for you is crumb coating, what do you use to do this. Thanks in advance for your help.     Ellen

Author: Tracey
     Subject: crumb coating
     Date: Fri Feb 20 14:10:27 1998

     Message:

     Crumb coating is usually a thin layer of buttercream icing or a clear apricot glaze you put on your cake before you   lay on the final coat of icing. It keeps the crumbs from getting into your final coat of icing. Crumbs are the enemy   of cake decorators. I usally use buttercream icing for my crumb coat. Hope this helps.

Author: Valerie
     Subject: Re: Ellen
     Date: Sat Feb 21 22:36:30 1998

     Message:

     Hi Ellen,
     I, like Tracey, use thinned down Buttercream. I ONLY thin with white, corn syrup. (Karo) You only need a lite   coating to hold in the moisture and especially the crumbs.
     No, I do not cover the cake with anything. I know it sounds bizarre. That is, of course, as long as you are going to   use it within a couple of days. I did find myself with an extra loaf shaped cake that I didn't need after all. Then, I   covered it with plastic wrap. (That was a couple of days after baking and freezing.) I took it out about a month   later to make petites four. My kids ate half of it before I got around to slicing it to cut the shapes. Apparently, they   thought it was still good. (Fortunately, it was only for a personal party.)
     Hope this helps.     Valerie

Author: Jeannine
     Subject: icing frozen cakes
     Date: Sat Feb 21 20:58:31 1998

     Message:
     Valerie, I was wondering, how long do you let the cakes set (once removed from the freezer) before you start    icing/decorating? Just curious.

Author: Valerie
     Subject: Re: Jeannine
     Date: Sat Feb 21 22:45:20 1998

     Message:

     Hi Jeannine,
     I place them on their board and ice immediately. Yes, while still frozen. The icing will set up or stiffen from the     cold, (especially if you have butter in your icing), but that actually seems to make it easier to get it smooth.
     If you are doing a cake requiring dowels, I find that usually by the time you've done all your layers, inserting the    dowel is no problem. I will add that I use straws. That also make insertion easier. If I need additional stability, a    sharpened wooden dowel, inserted through the middle, straight down, goes in just fine.     Hope this answers your question.     Valerie

Author: Val
     Subject: icing frozen cakes
     Date: Sat Feb 21 23:49:25 1998

     Message:
     Valerie, I also ice my cakes frozen and I agree that they are moister and the cold does actually help it smooth    easier. Just so you know--you aren't the only one that does that. Usually when I do a wedding cake that I have a    huge amount of cakes I bake and freeze them ahead of time .

Author: Valerie
     Subject: Re:Val
     Date: Sun Feb 22 14:51:48 1998

     Message:
     Hi Val,
     Nice to know that someone else with experience uses the same method. As I said in an earlier response, I learned   from a friend who has been using that method so many years. Until she and I were actually doing a cake together,   I would have never believed that freezing them, in that way, would make them so good. Who says Old dogs can't   learn new tricks?! :-}

Author: Charlotte
     Subject: Cakes
     Date: Fri Feb 20 09:35:00 1998

     Message:
     I'm more of a hobbyist at cake decorating than anything, but when it comes to baking cakes, I much prefer to    make cakes from scratch. The key is to not use all-purpose flour, which makes the cake heavier and possibly    drier, but to use cake flour, such as Swan's Down.
     If I do chose to use a mix, however, I always, always, always sift it before using. This helps get rid of the lumps    that form in settling and sitting around the store, plus I believe sifting helps create a moister cake.

Author: Val
     Subject: cake mixes
     Date: Sat Feb 21 23:58:16 1998

     Message:
     I use cake mixes and I found this hint to be helpful. Instead of sifting as was previously posted, I turn on my mixer    and mix the dry mix until all the lumps are out,only then do I add my eggs,oil etc.

Author: Patricia
     Subject: Cake Mixes
     Date: Fri Feb 20 10:45:40 1998

     Message:

     Hi Leah,

     I love Duncan Hines mixes. I mainly use their Golden Butter Recipe which is a yellow cake that you add butter or   margarine instead of oil. I also use their chocolate cake mix that has butter/margarine added to it also. I posted a   white cake with additions in an earlier post that I've had really good luck with too.
     You'll probably get as many different responses as there are    decorators. We all have our favorites. Have fun!! :)

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: Cake Recipe
     Date: Fri Feb 20 14:20:10 1998

     Message:

     I only use cake mixes. Everyone who has tasted my cakes can not believe I use cake mixes. They think I have   some secret to making cakes because it turns out so moist. I found most of my cake mix recipes on the internet.
     You can do this by using the search engines (i.e. yahoo, aol search, excite, etc.) with the search criteria of "cake Author: Beth
     Subject: cake mix
     Date: Fri Feb 20 17:02:17 1998

     Message:

     Hi Leah -
     I'm pretty new too but I wanted to share with you a simple recipe that I use often. I start with a Duncan Hines  cake mix (any flavor) but instead of following the box directions I add a package of dream whip, 1 cup of water,   and 4 whole eggs and then I beat until smooth (this will make a white cake look sort of a pale yellow). The batter   seems thicker than if you just follow the box directions - just so you're not surprised - and the cake rises quite   nicely. One last thing, I bake the cake at 325 instead of 350 for some reason it tends to bake a little more level at   a lower temp.
     My friends and family really enjoy this "airy" cake and like I said its pretty quick and easy. Good Luck!!mix" use the double quotes so it will search for both words together. Or, you may want to go to the site   www.cookbooks.com where they have their own search engine. Use the same search cirteria of "cake mix". I   don't think you need the double quotes here. Also, I think the baking temperature has a lot to do with how the   cake turns out. I usually bake my cakes at 325 degrees instead of 350. But everyones oven is different. You may   need to experiment. Good luck.

Author: Valerie
     Subject: Beth's recipe
     Date: Sat Feb 21 22:52:48 1998

     Message:

     Hi Beth,

     Was reading back over the answers and found your recipe. So glad you included it. I've heard of using dream  whip and wondered how. I'll have to try it.
     That's the wonderful thing about this board. Everyone gets to benefit from an answer to a question.

Author: Jackie N.
     Subject: mix-based carrot cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:17:06 1998

     Message:

     I need to make a rather large carrot cake this week, and wondered if anyone makes a carrot cake with a spice   cake mix as the base? I usually make mine from scratch, but I'm not up to "all that fuss" this week! :o)
     Thanks!     Jackie N.

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: mix-based carrot cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 11:21:22 1998

     Message:

     sure do -- all the time! just add about 1 cup shredded carrots and some chopped nuts per mix. i like to stir these   into the dry mix before adding other ingred.     lynne

Author: Margaret
     Subject: dehy-carrots?
     Date: Thu Feb 19 16:36:05 1998

     Message:

     Have any of you ever tried using dehydrated carrots with spice cake in place of fresh? Do you add more water or   oil? These would be easier to store but I'm not sure of the taste. Any advise would be appreciated.

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: mix-based carrot cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 19:48:58 1998

     Message:

     Betty Crocker makes a carrot cake cake mix. It is not good alone, but I doctor it up - a lot. Here is what I do: I   add the ingredients called for on the box. Then I also add 2-3 cups shredded fresh carrots, spices and pecans.
     The spices I add are the same ones listed on my carrot cake recipe on my web page under RECIPES. This makes a really good cake. I've also used that scratch carrot cake many time if you'd like to try it out. Its a dump     cake...just start with the first ingred. and keep adding and beating. Dolores

Author: Jeff Arnett
     Subject: Some gave me this recipe and IT'S GREAT!
     Date: Thu Feb 19 22:33:57 1998

     Message:

     Someone gave me this recipe a while back on the board [maybe it was Marie] and it is excellent. Recently, I   made a wedding cake with it and was told the folks scraped the cake board for the last bits!

     CARROT CAKE FROM A MIX

     1 box Betty Crocker Supermoist CARROT CAKE MIX
     1 eight ounce CRUSHED PINEAPPLE [undrained]
     4 LARGE EGGS
     1/4 cup WATER
     1/4 cup OIL
     4 ounces cooked and pureed CARROTS [I use 4 oz. jars of
     baby-food carrots!]
     1 teaspoon CINNAMON [or to taste]
     1/4 teaspoon NUTMEG
     1 teaspoon VANILLA
     1/2 cup EACH chopped WALNUTS and RAISINS [optional]
     {I use GOLDEN RAISINS}

     Mix as you would any boxed mix and bake [I bake it at  325 *F].
     Recipe make one THICK 10 inch layer. I use 2 recipes to make one 10" and two 6" layers or use 2 recipes
     [scant] for a 14" round. I make cup cakes with the extra batter to snack on.
     You can adjust the batter according to your finished layer height preferences, but, in general, it bakes higher than   the mix alone would so you probably need a little less batter than normal.
    Delicious and flavor and moistness improves if backed a day or so ahead, wrapped tightly in plastic/foil and   chilled.     Jeff

Author: Connie Smith
     Subject: Cake Magazines
     Date: Thu Feb 19 09:44:48 1998

     Message:

     Can anyone give me the names of Cake Decorating Magazines other than American Cake Dec.Mag. Also news   letter types will do. There isn't much to choose from in my area to keep you informed on new techniques and   ideas. I just subscribed to ICES. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also need the adddresses. Thanks in   advance. This is really a great site!!!

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Cake Magazines
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:18:22 1998

     Message:

     (Thanks Connie)
     The only other newsletters are individual ones like mine (available from my web site). Mine contains patterns,   recipes, hints & news. Once you get your ICES newsletter maybe someone will offer theirs there. One thing,   Diane Shavkin writes a small one. Her email is: shavkin@aol.com (She may have some more addresses for you if   you email her too. She's nice and helpful too. Dolores

Author: Jackie N.
     Subject: magazines
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:29:22 1998

     Message:

     There is always Mailbox News....
     PO Box 16208
     Minneapolis, MN 55416

Author: Earlene
     Subject: Magazines
     Date: Thu Feb 19 12:53:49 1998

     Message:

     There are several magazines available but most of them are published outside of the USA. I have found a couple    of web sites you might want to check out for two of the magazines. Cake Decoration Mag Web site (England)    http://www.futurenet.com/craftnet
     http://www.alpha.net.au/~artintype/pages/page1.htm     (New Australian web site under construction)
     The Winbecklers also put out a newsletter that you can subscribe to. I think their web site address is
     http://members.aol.com/winbeckler.html

Author: Gwen Oldroyd
     Subject: re: magazines
     Date: Fri Feb 20 00:48:37 1998

     Message:

     Hi:     I'm a cake decorator from Calgary, Alberta and I know of two magazines which are published monthly and    bi-monthly in England. One is the Cake Decoration monthly available through Aspen Litharne Publishing, P.O.    Box 9, Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire CV37 8RS Phone 01789 720604 and quote CDM 9611. The other    is "Sugarcraft" Squires Kichen Magazine Publishing Limited, Alfred House, Hones Business Park, Farnham,    Surrey GU9 8BB. phone 01252 727572
     Both of these are excellent publications with many ideas and numerous resourses listed.
     regards,     Gwen     Absolutely Elegant Sugarcraft     http://www,cadvision.com/oldroydd/gwen.html

Author: Ellen B.
     Subject: Question regarding Cheesecakes
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:20:47 1998

     Message:

     Help!! Is there any trick to removing a cheesecake from the bottom of the springform pan. I've been asked to   bake one for a friend that's having a party and I don't think it would look as nice sitting on the bottom of the pan   as it would on a pretty dish. I know this is probably a dumb question but I've never been asked to bake a   cheesecake for someone else, so this problem never occurred to me before. I would appreciate any help/tips that   you can give me. ...I'm new to this web site and I'm really enjoying all the helpful information. There is some great   advice "out there". Thanks in advance!

Author: Kathy M
     Subject: Cheese cake
     Date: Thu Feb 19 17:32:15 1998

     Message:
     Ellen, I always take the tip of a knife and gently pry it loose, comes right off.     Kathy M.

Author: Theo
     Subject: Re: Cheesecakes
     Date: Thu Feb 19 20:06:45 1998

     Message:
     Try placing a circle of parchment paper in the bottom of the pan before you put the crust in. This always works    well for me.

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: Re: Cheesecakes
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:09:42 1998

     Message:

     oh theo, thanks sooooo much for this tip! i have 5 /6" layers and a 9" to make next week. i was wondering how it   would work out.
     i once tried just taking a knife and slipping it under. this work ok, but not perfect. i'm sure the parchment will do a   much better job.     lynne

Author: Ellen B.
     Subject: Cheesecake - THANKS - Theo
     Date: Fri Feb 20 08:20:44 1998

     Message:
     Thanks Theo - I'm going to make a practice run of it today. I'll let you know if it worked for me.      Ellen

Author: Renee V
     Subject: Catching up on previous postings....
     Date: Thu Feb 19 09:08:15 1998

     Message:

     Hi All,
     I just wanted to do a little catching up on some of my previous postings and ask a question or two. In my first    posting I asked about melting compound and regular chocolate together in lue of tempering. Well, I finally    remembered to check the book I read this in and it was FAye Gardner's "CAke Decorating". She suggested    adding 1lb of compound chocolate to a family sized block of real chocolate to avoid having to temper chocolate.
     Also, I did find out that a "Family sized" block of chocolate is indeed 10lbs. I have all the stuff to try this trick, but   no time. (My husband just returned from a 4 week business trip while I was alone with my 4 month old! - So   maybe now I can give it a try!) I'll let you all know how it goes and if I feel there is enough of a taste difference to     make it worth while.
    There has been a lot of discussion about fondant and rolled buttercream on the board. Has anyone ever heard of    Lemon satin paste? I have a recipe for this in a British cake decorating book (sorry I don't remember the title -     I'm terrible that way, but will look it up and post). Basically it is butter, 10x sugar and lemon juice. It is very tasty    and fairly easy to work with. It is too soft to model with but great for covering a cake. The butter gives it a    richness and the lemon cuts down on the sweetness. I will post this recipe if anyone is interested. I have received    so many recipes from this site and would love to give something back. I also like this recipe because it requires    few ingredients and the kinds of things you always have on hand. If anyone else has used this recipe or one like it,    let me know what you think of it. I only have access to the web Mon. thru Fri. so I'll try to post on Mon. Thanks     again to all. Renee

Author: Debbie Goodwin
     Subject: Rolled Buttercream
     Date: Wed Feb 18 09:19:10 1998

     Message:

     I have used rolled fondant in the past but am going to try to work with rolled buttercream. In reading alot of    newsletters/magazines/posts I noticed that after frosting the cake some people didn't refer to any sort of glaze    being applied before applying the rolled buttercream. I thought this had to be done. Can the experts give me some    advice on this?! :-) Thanks.

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Rolled Buttercream
     Date: Wed Feb 18 09:55:35 1998

     Message:

     Hi Debbie,
     We'd discussed rolled buttercream a few pages back. I've not used it but we have some experts here who have.    We carry a book on this subject by Marsha Winbeckler also.
     Good luck, Dolores

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: Rolled Buttercream
     Date: Wed Feb 18 14:18:59 1998

     Message:

     I have not used it to cover a cake. I only used it for cut outs to decorate my cake. In working with it I think you    would need to glaze or put a thin layer of buttercream icing on your cake then lay the rolled buttercream on it. The    rolled buttercream is not sticky like regular buttercream but it is oily and has a shiny finish to it. If I'm wrong    hopefully someone here can correct me. Good luck.

Author: Kathy M.
     Subject: Rolled Buttercream
     Date: Wed Feb 18 17:34:24 1998

     Message:

     I use rolled buttercream quite often, and you're right, you should put a thin layer of buttercream on first and let it  set, but not too firm, this is what holds the rolled buttercream to the cake(it acts as a paste).   Kathy M.

Author: Renee V
     Subject: Re: Rolled Buttercream.
     Date: Thu Feb 19 08:46:31 1998

     Message:

     I have the Winbeckler book and it is very good! Very clear directions and pictures. I find rolled buttercream a    little sweet, so sometimes I use a layer of strained apricot jam under it to make it stick. This gives the cake a little    tang. Of course it all depends on the flavor of the cake.     Hope this helps.

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: Please post recipe
     Date: Thu Feb 19 14:15:43 1998

     Message:

     It sounds very good, like a lemon rolled buttercream. How did you roll it out? Between plastic sheets, or just on   the table, and did you use non-stick spray, corn starch, or powdered sugar to keep it from sticking? I've only   worked with a rolled icing once, so I'd like to know how most people do it. Thanks!

Author: Renee V
     Subject: Lemon Satin Icing
     Date: Mon Feb 23 09:12:48 1998

     Message:
     Hi All,      Here is the recipe:

     Lemon Satin Icing
     4T Butter
     4T fresh-squeezed lemon Juice
     6c 10x sugar
     paste coloring opt.

     1. Place butter and lemon in a small saucepan over low heat.
     Stir until butter is melted.
     2.Add 2c 10x sugar. Continue to cook over low heat, stirring until sugar is disolved. When it begins to simmer at   the sides of the pan, increase heat slightly to med. low - med. and cook for 2 minutes until it boils slowly. Do not  over cook, or icing will be too hard.
     3. Remove from heat and add 2c more of 10x sugar. Beat well with a wooden spoon and turn out into a mixing   bowl.
     4. Gradually mix in enough of the remaining 10x sugar to form a soft dough. Turn out and knead on surface dusted   with 10x sugar until smooth. Knead in desired color, if using.
     5. Wrap in plastic wrap and rest overnight. Will keep in the refridgerator for 6 weeks.
     6. Roll out on a surface dusted with 10x sugar. Dust rolling pin with 10x sugar as well. Makes enough to cover a   9", 2-layer round cake.
     This is the first rolled icing I ever made since it seemed simple. I didn't use plastic wrap or cooking spray to roll it   out. I just followed the directions and it seemed to work fine. Despite the lemon juice, this icing is quite white and   can be colored any shade. I used a light pink for a birthday cake and it was very delicate and pretty. IT is slightly   shiny, but not as shiny as rolled buttercream. Because of the lemon juice and sugar, the cake keeps fine   unrefridgerated.
     Does anyone know if it would be possible to replace the lemon with some other liquid to vary the flavor, without   sacrificing the texture/chemical reaction? Does the acid in the lemon juice have anything to do with the firmness in   the icing in the cooking process?      Thanks, Renee

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: variations
     Date: Mon Feb 23 11:05:02 1998

     Message:
     GThanks for posting the recipe! Sounds yummy. You could definately use orange juice; I don't know about other    less acidic liquids. If you decide to experiment, please post the results! I'm going to try this when I have a chance    and I'd like to know if it could be made other flavors, too.

Author: Ellen B.
     Subject: Bridal Shower Dessert
     Date: Wed Feb 18 23:28:46 1998

     Message:
     Hi Everyone,    I'm looking for a special dessert to take to a bridal shower. If anyone has any great,simple,and delicous recipes  and/or ideas I'd like to hear from you. Thanks!

Author: Marie
     Subject: shower dessert
     Date: Thu Feb 19 00:20:36 1998

     Message:

     Hi! If you're not planning to take a decorated cake, here is a suggestion. We call it punch bowl cake and I think   it's called trifle too. I've never found anyone who doesn't like it.

     tear strawberry cake into bite-sized pieces
     put a layer of the cake in the bottom of small punch bowl or clear glass bowl.
     Prepare pkg of vanilla instant pudding and spread layer of pudding over cake.
     Spread 1/3 can strawberry pie filling over pudding.
     Spread 1/3 carton Cool Whip over filling.
     Sprinkle chopped nuts over Cool Whip.
     Start over with cake pieces.
     One can drizzle chocolate syrup over the Cool Whip.
     Chocolate cake and pudding with cherry pie filling is good too. Or white cake instead of strawberry. Or lemon  cake with vanilla pudding and lemon filling. The combinations are endless.     Enjoy!     Marie

Author: Ellen B.
     Subject: Thanks Marie
     Date: Thu Feb 19 00:39:18 1998

     Message:

     Marie - Thanks for the recipe. You're right it's a great dessert. I've had it several times. I guess I failed to mention  in my earlier message that the "bride to be" would like cake or a pick up type dessert. If anyone has a recipe for  petits fours or a layer cake with a lemony filling I'd love to try them. Thanks!

Author: lynne
     Subject: nosy
     Date: Sun Feb 22 15:59:51 1998

     Message:

     hi ellen. just wondering what you ended up doing for the shower. or are you still looking for ideas?
     lynne

Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: SHRINK WRAP
     Date: Wed Feb 18 23:02:17 1998

     Message:

     I WAS AT MICHAELS TONIGHT AND I NOTICED THEY HAD IT THEY ARE ADVERTISING IT TO
     DO EASTER BASKETS IT CAME ON A ROLL AND IN DIFFERANT COLORS. DONT KNOW HOW
     MUCH.

Author: lynne
     Subject: shrink wrap available
     Date: Thu Feb 19 01:22:40 1998

     Message:

     thanks to all who posted where to get shrink wrap. i have never seen it and when i read this post by stepheni i    thought she was meaning celephone. i will have to look into this. as hubby just said, it is prolly banned here in    town !:) lynne

Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: SHRINK WRAP
     Date: Thu Feb 19 07:13:59 1998

     Message:

     Hi Lynn,
     I read the package and it said that you have to use a hair dryer to shrink it. But it did come in a roll like cellophene  and in differant colors.     Hope you can get it....

Author: Juanita
     Subject: Shrink Wrap
     Date: Thu Feb 19 22:57:32 1998

     Message:

     I purchased my shrink wrap at Michaels about $5.00 roll. Also they have a heat gun that puts out more directed   heat than hair dryer, About 20.00. This is VA. Makes beautiful gifts.

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: SHRINK WRAP
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:42:23 1998

     Message:

     Shrink wrap: I have a shrink wrap machine. Simply heats cello so that it shrinks smoothing out wrinkles.
     Expensive. They must be using another method or selling some cheaper machine for the use off the shrink wrap.     I use it to shrink-wrap cake dummies.      Dolores

Author: Robin
     Subject: Star Wars??? Help!!!!
     Date: Wed Feb 18 22:03:09 1998

     Message:

     I need to make a Star Wars themed cake for my little girl's friend. I haven't a clue!!! I saw a deco pac at the local   supermarket but they won't sell me the pack, they will onlyu make the cake & I can't but deco packs cuz I just a   mom, not a licenced decorator. I did see mention of a 3-d R2D2 does anyone have more detailed instructions to   that???      HELP!!!!!!

Author: stephanie
     Subject: star wars
     Date: Wed Feb 18 22:46:12 1998

     Message:

     Hi Robin,
     there is a R2D2 invitation out you might be able to copy.
     I have a copy cake so it was real easy for me;    They also have the figurines about $4.00 a piece which raises the cost of the cake up real quick.     GOOD LUCK

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: Star Wars??? Help!!!!
     Date: Thu Feb 19 01:28:16 1998

     Message:

     well, i've sat here for 5 minutes trying to remember which pan it was i used to make..........?? i'm not up on my star   wars people but it is the ape. i think it was an old raggedy ann pan -- it was a flat doll or teddy or somesuch. i just   covered it with brown hair from tip 233 and was recieved with a nice "cool!" made my day :)    lynne

Author: Charlotte
     Subject: Star Wars
     Date: Thu Feb 19 09:09:36 1998

     Message:
     Lynne made Chewbacca - a Wookie, not an ape :o)
     As far as the 3-d R2D2 goes, that was my question a while back. If I recall, an old neighbor of mine had baked a    cake in a small coffee can to use as R2's body because it provided the perfect shape for him (including his    rounded top) - if you scroll back, Lynne and some other folks had provided instructions as to how to bake a cake    with more depth. I don't remember what she did for his "arms" but I can only think that she must have baked    another cake and cut out the shape by hand and attached them to both sides - presumably with a layer of frosting,    and then decorated with buttercream. You'd have to get a picture of him, if you don't already have one, to see    how he's colored.
     Sorry this doesn't provide you with exact instructions - I'm going off my memory from something done 20 years    ago. But hopefully this has provided you with an idea to start with. If it ends up too complicated, I suggest just    getting the Raggedy Ann doll pan and going with the Wookie. Please let us know what you ended up doing.

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: Star Wars??? Help!!!!
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:49:01 1998

     Message:

     Like Stephanie said...there are figures (We carry all of them).
     We also carry the deco pac EDIBLE IMAGE the store wouldn't sell to you. This is listed on my web site under    Edible Images. Prices are listed for all.
     R2D2: I made him 3D using 4 6" cakes stacked with support on top of the first 2, cardboard wrapped in foil and    straws to hold the cakes up...add the other 2 with icing between. I cut the arms out of styrofoam. Dolores

Author: Marie
     Subject: 65th Wedding Anniversary
     Date: Wed Feb 18 16:51:41 1998

     Message:
     Hello!
     Does anyone know if there is a particular color associated with a 65th anniversary? The customer wants to use  burgundy if there isn't a special color, ie red for 40th, gold for 50th etc.     Thank you!     Marie

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: 65th Wedding Anniversary
     Date: Thu Feb 19 01:31:33 1998

     Message:

     marie; seems to me it is silver.....but i'm not sure. i do remember the symbol is diamonds. i did g/p/ diamonds cut   w/a cookie cutter, painted them w/silver dust mixed w/vodka. the color used was pink.
     but now i'm beginning to wonder was that 60 or 65 yrs??? :(     lynne

Author: Sherry V.
     Subject: Re: Re: 65th Wedding Anniversary
     Date: Thu Feb 19 08:23:24 1998

     Message:

     Hi Marie,
     The 75th anniversary is the diamond one, 50th is gold, 25th is silver. I don't believe there is a color for 60 or 65,    but burgundy sounds lovely!     Best wishes,     Sherry V.

Author: Shanon
     Subject: Getting a beautiful Burgandy
     Date: Thu Feb 19 16:57:19 1998

     Message:

     Sorry I can't help with what the color is but I did make a grogeous burgandy color for roses by tinting cholcolate   icing red. It was perfect! Let us know what you choose to do.

Author: Beth
     Subject: storage (pans)
     Date: Wed Feb 18 15:16:52 1998

     Message:

     Does anyone have space saving suggestions on storing all of the various size pans? I'm quickly running out of   cabinet space in my kitchen and need to start searching for a more practical way of storing everything.     Thanks in advance.     Beth

Author: Valerie
     Subject: pan storage
     Date: Wed Feb 18 18:22:41 1998

     Message:

     Beth,
     Here is yet another suggestion. I don't have the kitchen space for more cabinets, but do have a great storage area    in my basement. We purchased inexpensive shelving. Then I sorted the pans into catagories, like 3-D, tiers, etc.
     Those in turn were put into large, clear, plastic storage containers. They stay clean, but easily accessible. I have a    large label on the end of the container, listing what pans are in that tote. I also store all my "accessories" in smaller,     clear, well labeled boxes. It makes finding everything so much easier.
     If you have some cabinet space you don't mind altering or wood shelf unit, you could try something a friend did.     Have slats built in to divide the space vertically. They need only to be 2 1/2" apart. (Like some kitchens that have     them for cookies sheets, etc.) She stores all her pans on their sides. (Tiered sets inside each other.) Really handy.
     Another friend has her odd and often unused pans hanging as decorations on her kitchen wall. Cute, but tends to     need upkeep from dust, etc., though.     Good luck,     Valerie

Author: Nancy Morgan
     Subject: Pan Storage
     Date: Wed Feb 18 18:16:33 1998

     Message:

     I have a lot of character pans. As you know they do not nest together, if at all.
     I investigated most kinds of bins before I settled on these.
     I have 12 gray colored storage bins I bought from Walmart. They are hard plastic with straight sides and attached     covers. They stack well on top of each other in the garage or a storage shed. I also labeled the bins if it was     Easter, Halloween, Miscellaneous, etc.
     The sides on the Rubbermaid bins are slanted so you can't store pans very well.

Author: Marie
     Subject: pan storage
     Date: Wed Feb 18 17:15:04 1998

     Message:
     Beth, I use a large open-front shelf unit. I store the wedding pans nested inside each other inside large clear plastic     bags. The sheet pans are stored the same way. The plastic plates are stacked inside plastic bags too. The plastic     bags keep the dust off, but you can still see where things are at a glance. The odd character pans that are used     seasonally or never are in plastic bags with the directions in big boxes. The pillars, ribbons, disposable bags, foil     leaves, glue sticks, the little clips for 2-part pans, small ornament pieces, styro balls and all the other odds and     ends connected with cake decorating are stored in Rubbermaid clear stacked drawer units.     Hope this helps.     Marie

Author: Jackie
     Subject: storage
     Date: Wed Feb 18 18:01:25 1998

     Message:

     Hi Beth - I recently found that I was having to same problem     as you. I found a quick solution for me, hope it helps you.     I used plastic stackable shelves (you can buy them at large discount stores) this gave me six extra shelves of space     at a very affordable price. I put mine in an area located right off my kitchen and so far they're working beautifully.     Good Luck!

Author: Shanon
     Subject: Accesorie Storage
     Date: Thu Feb 19 01:47:39 1998

     Message:

     I know you asked about pans, and you got several good responses but I have a great idea for all of the small   supplies we use... tackle boxes. This was my husbands idea. He cut rows of styrofoam for me and each tray holds   a "family" of tips. There are small compartments for leaves and stamens etc. Hope this gives you some ideas.

Author: lynne
     Subject: tackle box use
     Date: Thu Feb 19 11:35:18 1998

     Message:

     i used one of those for several yrs when i was teaching. i like it *much* better than wilton's teacher's carry/storage     box. lynne

Author: Val
     Subject: small storage
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:36:21 1998

     Message:

     I use the drawers that you get in the hardware section. They are in a little cabinet w/pull out drawers. Guys use    them for nuts & bolts. Each drawer has divisions in them so you can divide each drawer up. I use mine for my    tips, couplers,leaves, candles etc. I put little self stick labels on the front of each drawer, so at a glance I know    where everything is. The cabinets are plastic and hold about 24 drawers although I know you can buy bigger ones   also. I find it to be my best way to organize these small items!!And when not in use-it tucks in a cabinet.

Author: Valerie
     Subject: small storage
     Date: Sat Feb 21 22:58:06 1998

     Message:

     Val,

     What a great idea! I use one for my small sewing stuff. Never thought to use one for cake goodies. Makes sense,   'cause I've seen them in some craft stores holding tips.

Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: Storage
     Date: Thu Feb 19 07:28:41 1998

     Message:

     I have a peg board in the basement and i have these straight hooks that are about 8" long and i wrap all my pans   in a clear plastic bag and hang them up, most of the pans already have a hole in them to use, and if not most can   be drilled. Depending on the pan i can get about 5 on a hook. And of course all the rubbermaid containers, and   shelving.
     But the big secret in all this is organize everything and try to keep some sort of an inventory list. If i didn't have a   basement i would have a BIG BIG problem. Good-Luck

Author: Val
     Subject: basement
     Date: Thu Feb 19 23:24:55 1998

     Message:

     A basement is also called a cellar or the part of your house underneath your house. I know in the south they are   not as common as they are up north such as here in PA. Very few homes here do not have basements, thay are   usually cement block walls & alot of people have them fixed up as family rooms or game rooms. Hope this    helped!!

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: basement
     Date: Sat Feb 21 02:29:36 1998

     Message:

     val; thanks for the explanation, but i was raised in north/eastern ohio :) i have lived in ca for over 30 yrs now. using   my weird sense of humor. i figured there prolly were others on the board who might not know. also letting trying   to let other know not everybody has that option.     lynne

Author: Sherry
     Subject: Pan Storage
     Date: Thu Feb 19 08:48:40 1998

     Message:

     I have a separate room in my basement where I keep all my cake decorating materials/pans, etc. At first I hung    them on the pegboard my husband put on the wall, but I had too many. Then I went to an auction with my    husband (we go to lots of these) and I found a great circle rack with a top circle, middle circle, and bottom circle    for only $2.00!! I use pliers to undo a heavy duty paper clip and hang the pans on the circle with the paper clip.     Works great and I have about 30-40 pans hung on each circle. Lots of storage in a small space. Check out the     auctions -- they're great.

Author: Beth
     Subject: thanks again
     Date: Thu Feb 19 08:55:54 1998

     Message:

     Thanks for all of the wonderful suggestions. I'm not sure why it didn't occur to me before but I could stack (and   hide) storage bins in any closet or even in the garage.     Thanks again!! Everyone here is so helpful.

Author: Sherry
     Subject: Pan Storage
     Date: Thu Feb 19 09:00:16 1998

     Message:

     I have a separate room in my basement where I keep all my cake decorating materials/pans, etc. At first I hung   them on the pegboard my husband put on the wall, but I had too many. Then I went to an auction with my   husband (we go to lots of these) and I found a great circle rack with a top circle, middle circle, and bottom circle   for only $2.00!! I use pliers to undo a heavy duty paper clip and hang the pans on the circle with the paper clip.
     Works great and I have about 30-40 pans hung on each circle. Lots of storage in a small space. Check out the   auctions -- they're great.

Author: Earlene
     Subject: Pan Storage
     Date: Thu Feb 19 13:06:25 1998

     Message:

     My husband built me a special cabinet for all of those pans that nest. It has vertical dividers every 2 1/2 to 3   inches. The nested pans rest on their sides and I have over 100 pans in a space about 32 by 36 inches.
     The character pans are a different story. I visited a friend in Michigan last year and she had about the best solution   I have seen to storing these pans. She had special boards cut with holes drilled that a shower curtain rod would fit   through. Those boards were about 6" by 4" and the 4" bottom edge had rounded corners. Those were attached   to the ceiling and the shower curtains were hung between two of these boards. Then she had S hooks over those   shower rods. Each pan had a ring attached to the hole and then each pan was hung on one of the S hooks. I think   she had about 3 or four of these hung above her lower cabinets, freezer and etc. Close to the perimeter of the  room. It looked neat and they were all easily accessible.

Author: Kelley
     Subject: Chocolate fondant recipe
     Date: Wed Feb 18 11:05:01 1998

     Message:

     Does anyone have a good recipe for  chocolate fondant? I recently tried   making my own fondant and loved the results, and now I'd like to see if I can   make my own chocolate fondant as well. (I' ve heard that the Choco-pan tastes wonderful, but it's sooo  expensive!) Thanks in advance for any suggestions. :)

Author: Diana
     Subject: Choc fondant
     Date: Wed Feb 18 19:39:30 1998

     Message:

     I too made my own fondant and loved the result. I'm taking a fondant class and asked the instructor for a
     chocolate recipe. What she did was take a handful of my homemade fondant and added fudge base to it until he   liked the color and taste. The result was a dark rich brown that tasted like tootsie roll. Ladies out there: is that   what it is supposed to taste like?

Author: Sly    Subject: chocolate fondant
     Date: Thu Feb 19 19:58:13 1998

     Message:

     To make chocolate fondant, I just substitute Domino's Chocolate Powdered sugar for the standard confectioners   sugar in my fondant recipe. (I do the same for chocolate buttercream, chocolate rolled buttercream, or royal icing   that I need to be dark brown or black.) I find this much easier than following the recipe's substitutions for what to   leave out in order to add in chocolate. (And yes, I've also used the lemon flavor and the strawberry flavor and   they both work great as well--good flavor and nice shades that require no additional coloring.)

Author: Rebecca
     Subject: Chocolate-mint candies
     Date: Wed Feb 18 09:38:50 1998

     Message:

     Hi! I'm wanting to make some type of chocolate-peppermint candies for a get together on Saturday. I want to use   milk chocolate baking chips and peppermint flavoring. Does anyone have any suggestions on how much flavoring   to use or if I should add something like paraffin wax to the mixture to help them set up better. I'd like to make  them today or tomorrow - all suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
     Rebecca

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: chocolate mints
     Date: Wed Feb 18 10:26:52 1998

     Message:

     First of all, be sure to use an oil based flavoring (Lorann oils, Wilton candy flavors), not an extract, or your   chocolate will be a lumpy mess. Second, do not add paraffin; it is wax and is not edible, and isn't needed. The   amount of flavoring added depends on how strong you want it. I've only made small quantities, so I'm not sure   how much to tell you to use. The oils are very concentrated, so it is a matter of drops. I think I add about 3-4    drops to about 1/4 pound. Just add a few drops, mix it in, and taste. If your using real chocolate, it will need to be    tempered. You might want to consider coating, in which the cocoa butter has been replaced with other fats that    do not have to be tempered. I use coating and put it in a big sqeeze bottle. You can either microwave it, or heat it    in a pan of water over low heat till melted, then just squirt it into the molds quickly and neatly. Put the mold into   the freezer for 5-10 minutes to set and pop them out.

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: Thanks for your response . . .
     Date: Wed Feb 18 10:42:42 1998

     Message:

     Thanks for all the suggestions!
     I was wondering though, you said paraffin isn't edible, but I have a candy recipe that my mom has made for   Christmas ever yaer that I can remember and it's coating is just choclate chips with paraffin wax. We haven't died   yet, but I was wondering why you say it's bad to use?    Rebecca

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: paraffin
     Date: Wed Feb 18 12:48:26 1998

     Message:

     I know alot of old candy recipes have paraffin in them, but it isn't edible. If I remember correctly, paraffin is made   from petroleum products. It isn't digestible by the human body, and because it's melting temperature is higher than   body temp, it's thought that it can accumulate in your system (probably not proven). While I'm sure the small   amount a person would consume from candy would be relatively harmless, it is easy enough to make candy   without it, so why take chances. Personally, the idea just seems kinda gross to me. I don't much on candles, so   why would I want to add wax to my food? But my main point was that molding chocolates (or coating) is quite   easy, and no additives are needed.
     (Don't wory about your typo's and mix-up's! I have a Terrible Two year old (she's not really that terrible,
     compared to some!), so I know how motherhood plays havoc with your brain!! :) )

Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: MINT CHOCOLATES
     Date: Wed Feb 18 11:17:21 1998

     Message:
     Hi Rebecca,
     I don't know if you have time to go to a cake/candy supply at Mr. Bulky's .      I buy the Merkins milk chocolate coating chips and the Merkins mint coating chips and,     First I melt the chocolate and pour on a cookie sheet and while I am melting the mint chips i take a fork and put    swirl lines on it, then i pour the mint chips over the chocolate then i put swirls on it and then pour another layer of    chocolate on it then i score it to the sizes i want    {Usually like an Andes Mint} and when it sets it breaks into bite size pieces.    The reason for swirl marks is so that the next layer of chocolate will attach.     Good luck.......

Author: Renee V
     Subject: Mr. Bulky's
     Date: Thu Feb 19 09:35:13 1998

     Message:

     I didn't know that they sell Merkens at Mr. Bulky's. I am familiar with the store from when I lived in the midwest.   I don't think they are here in Northern New Jersey - at least not in Essex county area. Do all Mr. Bulky's sell   Merkens and what is the price per pound? That is handy info, if you need some on short notice and can't order.
     Also, if anyone knows of a Mr. Bulky's in my area, I'd love to know about it. They are very handy for incidental    candy for decorating a child's cake or gingerbread houses. Sometimes you just need a few of something, not a   whole pound or 1/2 pound! Thanks.

Author: Beth
     Subject: Mr. Bulky's
     Date: Thu Feb 19 10:57:25 1998

     Message:
     I know that the Mr. Bulky's near me (Dayton, OH) does not sell Merkens but it is a very small shop so you may    only find them in a larger shop

Author: Rebecca
     Subject: Here's what I did . . .
     Date: Wed Feb 18 15:57:22 1998

     Message:

     Thanks all for your suggestions! It prevented me from wasting bags of chocolate chips trying to come up with    something. What I ended up doing was stirring up the recipe for "Cream Cheese Mints" from the Better Homes &    Gardens New Cookbook (tinted green) and dipping them in melted milk chocolate chips thinned to dipping    consistency with a couple tablespoons of shortening. I melted the choc. chips in a double broiler over low heat    and had no problems. Decided to go this route, because I had all the ingredients on hand. :-) I'm very pleased    with how they turned out - almost taste like a York Peppermint Pattie!      Thanks again,     Rebecca

Author: Jane
     Subject: Recipe
     Date: Wed Feb 18 23:25:56 1998

     Message:
     Rebecca, sounds great! Would you mind posting the recipe you used?

Author: Rebecca
     Subject: Cream Cheese Mint Recipe
     Date: Thu Feb 19 09:52:22 1998

     Message:

     Sure, Jane, it's a real simple recipe - here it is:

     3oz cream cheese, softened
     1/2 tsp. peppermint extract
     3 cups sifted powdered sugar
     a small amout of food coloring

     In a small mixing bowl, stir together softened cream cheese and peppermint extract. (I added a little green paste    food color at this point, but you can also knead it in later.) Gradually add powdered sugar, stirring till mixture is   smooth. (Knead in the last of the powdered sugar with your hands.)
     Form mixture into 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch balls, and then flatten into wafers with your hands or the bottom of a glass.    (You can also put them into candy molds sprinkled lightly with sugar.) At this point, I let them dry for 5 minutes or    so, and then turned them over to dry for another few minutes. I then put them in the freezer while I prepared the    chocolate:
     Melt 8 to 10 oz of chocolate chips in a double broiler over low heat. Once melted, stir in 1 to 2 Tablespoons of    Crisco to reach desired dipping consistency. Remove chocolate from heat, and working VERY QUICKLY, coat    each cream cheese wafer with the chocolate and place on waxed paper to dry.
     Refridgerate or freeze (the recipe for the mints said they could be kept frozen for up to 1 month).

Author: Diana
     Subject: Nutella
     Date: Wed Feb 18 00:16:36 1998

     Message:

     I've noticed past posts on Nutella. In the Feb. 1998 issue of Gourmet magazine on pgs 170 -173 there are
     recipes using Nutella including a recipe for a mousse cake.

Author: Mary
     Subject: flavor ideas
     Date: Tue Feb 17 23:20:10 1998

     Message:

     I am making a christening cake. I want to use a yellow cake mix, and need an idea for filling and icing flavor. I    would prefer not to have to refrigerate. It has been requested that the cake look elegant and I want it to taste   elegant as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Author: Jeff Arnett
     Subject: Filling for Yellow Cake
     Date: Tue Feb 17 23:38:20 1998

     Message:

     How about a nice Lemon filling with a lemon buttercream?
     Or how about a caramel filling with vanilla or butter pecan
     buttercream? I make the butter-pecan by substituting Carnation brand Coffee-Mate non-dairy liquid creamer in    the butter-pecan flavor. THis is found in the grocer's refrigerated section. I also like a jam filling [heat, strain, cool]    in a yellow cake with vanilla buttercream or lemon buttercream [my favorite is raspberry jam filling and lemon    buttercream.
     Hope these ideas are at least a starting point in you quest! Good luck.     Jeff

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: Raspberry
     Date: Wed Feb 18 09:24:49 1998

     Message:

     Try Country Kitchens raspberry filling. People are always impressed with a jam filling and it is fabulous. The red   and yellow contrast is beautiful. (Available here online in Dolores' catalog)

Author: Julie
     Subject: non dairy creamer
     Date: Wed Feb 18 04:23:25 1998

     Message:

     Jeff,

     I've noticed you've mentioned the non dairy creamer you use a couple times. I'm guessing you use that as the   liquid in your icing instead of water? Does that then have to be refrigerated?
     I don't drink coffee but I have notice the wide variety of flavors there are in creamers - they have taken over the   milk section at the grocery store. What a whole new world of flavors this opens up!!!
     Thanks      Julie

Author: Shirley
     Subject: Lots of Questions
     Date: Tue Feb 17 20:02:02 1998

     Message:

     Hi, I'm fairly new, and reading everything I can and learning so much. I have a whole bunch of questions, and    would appreciate any response I get.
     1. I find icing the cakes smooth to be one of the hardest parts. Any tricks?
     2. No matter what I've tried, I still get humps and have to cut to level. Does every cake have to be trimmed, at    least a little?
     3. I made the Wondermold cake, and had to trim it alot. And then the doll looked funny, because her skirt was   too short. Any suggestions?
     4. I'd love to try a rolled fondant cake, but heard they don't taste all that great. Is that true, and are there some    recipes that taste better than others? Is the rolled buttercream easier/harder to work with?
     5. I'm dying to try gumpaste flowers, but haven't seen any classes in my area. We don't have any cake supply    shops either. Can anyone suggest a good book and kit?
     Thanks, again for any help,     Shirley

Author: NANCY
     Subject: WONDERMOLD CAKE
     Date: Tue Feb 17 20:23:20 1998

     Message:

     I find using a 9" single layer round cake under the wondermold makes a nice size for the doll.

Author: mickey
     Subject: Re: Lots of Questions
     Date: Tue Feb 17 20:56:18 1998

     Message:

     Evening Shirley, and welcome
     About the fondant, the very nature of the beast is a bland cover to complement a rich heavy cake, as it originally    went over fruit cakes and the like. It can be flavored, but other than that, it are what it are.
     For the trimming problem -- if your oven is too hot, the cake will not bake as evenly as it could. Also don't grease    the sides of the pans, and put the proper amount of batter in the pans. And you are using the bottom of the layer    for the top -- that gives you a good flat working surface. For smoothing the frosting, use good weight spatulas and    practice, practice practice. Offset spatulas help too. I use a large and small one, for sides and top. Everyone has    their favorite way of doing things and swear by them, it's just a matter of finding what works well for you and    you're comfortable with,
     Best of luck.
     Are you an ICES member. There is a wealth of info through the newsletters and state and annual meetings. Also   American Cake Decorating magazine is a good source.     Mickey
     If you scroll back through previous pages you'll find other material on all your questions.

Author: Susan
     Subject: Questions
     Date: Tue Feb 17 23:22:18 1998

     Message:

     Shirley,

     #1 have you tried the paper towel method. Wait a few minutes for your buttercream to stiffen a little and then put   paper towel over it and rub gentley.
     #2 I have always had to trim my cakes. I even have used the wondermold also.
     #3 ? I don't have an answer for that one Sorry
     #4 never used fondant but heard it is gaggy sweet.
     #5 There is a good book for gumpaste it is called:
     Cakes by Design, The Magical World of Sugar Art,
     Written by: Scott Clark Woolley & Micheal G. Farace

     Good luck with your creations. Susan

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: Lots of Questions
     Date: Wed Feb 18 01:00:19 1998

     Message:

     hi shirley;
     well here is some more advise......hope it helps along w/what already has been said.
     1.) i have found using *freshly* made buttercream and applying it w/a quick icer -- that huge 2" wide tip-- is all it   takes.....oh, and a turntable. usually 2-3 minutes is all it takes. remember it needs to be thin consistency.
     2.) if you read my recipes posted for champagne and kahluah cakes you will see that baking them at a lower temp   for a bit longer usually will produce a very level cake that usually dosn't need to be leveled. try it. oh, and are you   sure of the temp on your oven. invest in a *good* murcery thermometer -- taylor is the brand i'm familuiar with. as   i remember they run about $15-20. those little round things w/a pointer usually selling for about $2-5 are   *useless!*
     3.) there are 2 different size wondermold pans -- the older ones are smaller. be sure you are using the right
     amount of batter. i have a feeling you didn't use enough.
     4.)as has been said flavoring can be added and use flavorful covering on the cake before adding the fondant.   apricot jam is great.
     5.) a good book i have found is "cake decorating" by fay gardner. i got mine in a discount bookstore called crown   books several yrs ago for $13. best investment around :)
     any more ??s don't hesitate to ask. lynne

Author: Shanon
     Subject: suggestions/answers
     Date: Wed Feb 18 01:36:27 1998

     Message:

     Hi I have a couple of suggestions for the first 2 questions.
     First there are three ways I have tried to get icing smooth.
     1-Hot water... Run your spatula under the hotest water that comes out of your tap and then run lightly over your   cake that has formed a slight crust.
     2-After your cake has formed a slight crust (when you can touch it and the icing doesn't come off on your finger)   use a spray bottle and spray a SMALL amount (1-2 squirts) of water , then run your spatula to smooth. The    water acts like a buffer between your spatula and cake.
     3-After your cake has formed a slight crust lay a piece of parchment paper over the top and lightly smooth with    your hands.
     Second- I discovered Wilton's Bake Even Strips on clearance last year. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. I should   have bought them years ago! I use them with every cake except character and the wonder mold as they are not   taylored for that. They are sold in two size packages. I am sure that Delores sells them. They are worth it. Try    them.
     Hope this helps. It is great to see so many people reaching out with suggestions and help on this board!

Author: RobinG
     Subject: Questions!
     Date: Wed Feb 18 02:06:39 1998

     Message:

     Hi Shirley: Another way to smooth your icing is to let it set and then cover with parchment & use fondant
     smoothers.
     I never cut to level my cakes. After you test your cake for doneness, while still hot, gently press the hump using a   pot holder or lint free towel. It will stay down, the key word is GENTLY. If you press too hard, you will have an    indentation. It must be done while hot though, once it cools it just springs back. You'll never have to cut a cake    again! I use the Dream Cake recipe & always have a nice high cake. I flavor rolled fondant with flavoring oils.     Good luck! .....RobinG

Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: TITANTIC CAKE
     Date: Tue Feb 17 18:19:30 1998

     Message:

     Hi,     I need an idea for a titantic cake     Any IDEAS ???

Author: Susan
     Subject: Titanic
     Date: Tue Feb 17 19:46:23 1998

     Message:

     you could make a sheet cake and make half of it look like water and half sky. Then draw half a ship sticking out   of the water as if sinking. Use piping gel for the water, and don't forget to make it look like some of the water    splashing away from the ship. Also draw an iceburg near the side. You could be real creative and have people    swimming in the water and some falling off the ship. It sounds awful but that is what happened. I don't know how    artistic you are but the ship sinking shouldn't be to hard to do. Good luck and I hope it turns out great for you.      Susan

Author: Anonymous
     Subject: Re: Titanic
     Date: Tue Feb 17 19:50:30 1998

     Message:

     I was thinking that you could make a sheet cake, ice as if water, and then make a cake in half of the egg pan, cut it   in half and stand it upright like it is the ship sinking into the ocean. could use some of the other half of the cake to   make icebergs.

Author: mickey
     Subject: Re: TITANTIC CAKE
     Date: Tue Feb 17 20:31:12 1998

     Message:

     How about making it really simple -- ice the whole top of the cake like the ocean, with some ripples or waves   maybe, and a few bits of stuff like debris.

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: Re: TITANTIC CAKE
     Date: Wed Feb 18 01:03:34 1998

     Message:

     now mickey -- that sounds like something right up my ally....simple, quick and easy lol!
     lynne

Author: LEIGH
     Subject: TITANIC
     Date: Thu Feb 19 08:39:40 1998

     Message:

     STEPHANIE THER IS A CANDY MOLD FROM LIFE OF THE PARTY 08886 THAT LOOKS LIKE
     THE TITANIC OR A CRUISE SHIP . YOU CAN USE THIS TO CREAT YOUR CAKE . THE SHIP IS IN
     HALF ON ONE MOLD AND CAN BE PUT TO GATHER TO SIT ON TOP OR YOU CAN JUST MOLD
     HALF OF IT BREAK THAT IN HALF TO MADE IT LOOK LIKE IT IS SINKING. OR PUT THE TWO
     TOGETHER THEN CUT THAT IN HALF WITH A BAND SAW OR KNIFE. THEN ADD YOUR WATER
     AND THEY MAKE ROCK CANDY THAT YOU CAN USE TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AND ICE
     BURG. THIS CAN BE PURCHASE AT A LOCAL CANDY STORE OR AT SOME GROCERIES. ALS0
     IN THE AMERICAN CAKE MAG THIS IS AN ARTICE ON HOW TO MAKE ROCK CANDY. LEIGH

Author: Connie
     Subject: Hockey Cake
     Date: Tue Feb 17 16:36:36 1998

     Message:

     Hi Everyone,
     I need an idea for a cake that's themed around Hockey. I don't know anything about the sport so any idea's    would be really helpful, like how many men are on a team and how many players are on the ice at one time. Any   suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Author: amy
     Subject: hockey cake
     Date: Tue Feb 17 18:07:53 1998

     Message:

     connie,
     there are 6 players on the ice from each team at a time(this may change do to penalties). the goalie is one of the   six players. there could befrom 20 -30 players ona single team...

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: Hockey Cake
     Date: Wed Feb 18 01:06:46 1998

     Message:

     somewhere i read where someone made a hocky puck cake. the customer furnished a real puck and it was
     copied.    keeping things simple why not just figure pipe a hocky stick and puck ?     lynne

Author: Connie
     Subject: Thankyou
     Date: Wed Feb 18 19:19:49 1998

     Message:

     Amy and Lynne,
     Thanks so much for the information. I decided to buy the little plastic hockey players and draw the hockey field   on the cake and then to figure pipe two hockey sticks and puck   right before and after the happy birthday message.

Author: Nicole
     Subject: Question: Lattice
     Date: Tue Feb 17 16:09:00 1998

     Message:

     I will be making a round cake with white lattice on the sides. Is there an easy way to mark the cake first so that   the lattice stays even all the way around?? Any suggestions would be helpful! Thanks!

Author: STEPHANIE
     Subject: Lattice
     Date: Tue Feb 17 18:15:36 1998

     Message:
     Nicole,
     When i do it i use my medium flower former, and i go all around the cake and if i want it closer togather i go    between the lines again. Or if you don't have a flower former my friend uses an empty paper towel roll and cut it in    half.

Author: Shanon
     Subject: Please explain
     Date: Wed Feb 18 01:38:52 1998
     Message:
     Would you please explain how exactly you use this method? Thanks in advance.

Author: Nicole
     Subject: Thanks!
     Date: Tue Feb 17 21:30:41 1998
     Message:
     Stephanie--
     Thank you! I think I will try the paper towel roll cut in half -- I don't have a flower former yet. I appreciate the    help!!     Nicole

Author: lynne
     Subject: flower formers available
     Date: Wed Feb 18 11:33:41 1998
     Message:
     i have several sets (used--exellent condition) that anyone can buy for $3 plus shipping. contact me e-mail.
     lynne

Author: Nicole
     Subject: Help! Almond Extract and White Cake Mix?
     Date: Tue Feb 17 15:52:44 1998
     Message:
     I am making a cake for my niece for her birthday and she would like white cake with an almond flavor. Does    anyone know if I can add a little almond extract to a white cake mix? If so, how much?? Any suggestions would    be most helpful! Thanks!

Author: MaraTLee
     Subject: Re: almond taste in your cake
     Date: Tue Feb 24 13:02:09 1998
     Message:
     Hi,
     You could add 2 teaspoons of almond paste to your cake batter to get the almond taste you are looking for. Mix   the paste with the oil that is added to your mix. Using a french vanilla cake mix is the best.     Mara

Author: Nicole
     Subject: Thanks!
     Date: Tue Feb 17 21:33:13 1998
     Message:
     Jennifer--     Thanks for your input! I will try it!     Nicole

Author: linda
     Subject: candy molds
     Date: Tue Feb 17 14:04:14 1998
     Message:
     I would like to find some candy molds for Easter. If anyone knows of a place to order please let me know.
     Delores, if you could email me and let me know if you have what I need, I would appreciate it very much. What I   am looking for is a 3D solid rabbit about 6 in. or so tall and also some sucker molds. Would appreciate price and   description if possible. Thanks

Author: Stacy
     Subject: iso cake pans
     Date: Tue Feb 17 00:01:27 1998
     Message:
     I am searching for a Scooby Doo pan 502-R-224 from the late 70's and a frog pan 2105-L-2452 from mid 80's.    Please E-mail me or call 603-476-2401 if you have either one that you would like to sell. Thanks Stacy

Author: Jill L.
     Subject: Pans
     Date: Tue Feb 17 12:03:33 1998
     Message:
     There was a scooby doo pan on ebay auction site. the address is cayman.ebay.com/au/ Just search Wilton and   you'll see it. I don't know when the bid is up, it may already be over. Hope this helps

Author: Mindy
     Subject: Re: Pans
     Date: Tue Feb 17 14:10:48 1998
     Message:
     The scooby doo pan on ebay has already been sold for $30.78. It ended on the 16th. But you can watch on   ebay, someone might put another one up for bid.

Author: Tami
     Subject: Re:pans
     Date: Tue Feb 17 20:14:48 1998
     Message:
     Hi Jill,
     I tried to find the ebay address, but I couldn't get to    it. Was that the entire address you listed. I'd like
     to try to find a Star Wars pan for my son's birthday.    Thanks.     Tami

Author: Mindy
     Subject: Re: Re:pans
     Date: Wed Feb 18 13:21:11 1998

     Message:

     Here is the address for ebay.     //cayman.ebay.com

Author: Dolores
     Subject: Re: iso cake pans
     Date: Wed Feb 18 10:01:27 1998

     Message:

     Don't have a clue on Scooby Doo...highly in demand.
     But if you aren't just collecting, you can easily make a frog using the stand-up teddy bear pan. I have a pict.    Dolores

Author: Roshelle Jimmerson
     Subject: coloring cake mixes
     Date: Mon Feb 16 23:29:23 1998
     Message:
     What is the best way to color a cake mix??? I need to make a green cake and I'm not sure whether to use liquid,     powder or what and if it will change the consistancy of the cake. Thanks for all your help. Love ya!!

Author: lynne
     Subject: coloring cake batter
     Date: Mon Feb 16 23:34:22 1998
     Message:
     hi; would you go for flavored cake? what i'm getting at is add jello to white cake batter. just dump the dry jello   into the dry ingredients then mix and bake as usual. this will give a pastel color. need more intense color add a bit   of paste or liquid paste color.     lynne

Author: Jennifer
     Subject: coloring batter
     Date: Tue Feb 17 00:05:33 1998
     Message:
     I don't think it would make too much difference what type of color you used, especially if you just want a pastel   color. For a darker color, you might want to use either paste or powder, just to be safe. I've used both liquid and   paste colors for pastels with no problem.

Author: charlotte
     Subject: Coloring cake mixes
     Date: Tue Feb 17 09:09:36 1998
     Message:
     Long before I got into cake decorating, I used regular food coloring to color my cakes. The food coloring did   nothing to alter the flavor or consistency, but the coloring my more pastel than dark.
 

Author: Tracey
     Subject: Re: coloring cake mixes
     Date: Tue Feb 17 13:52:04 1998
     Message:
     I made a purple wedding cake once. I used white cake mix and added the Wilton colored paste to it. I had to use   quite a bit of it since the bride wanted a deeper purple color. It does not change the taste or consistency of the  batter.

Author: Julie
     Subject: color cake mix
     Date: Tue Feb 17 14:08:27 1998

     Message:

     Similar to the way Lynne suggested, I have added powderd Kool-aide to white cake mix. It will flavor and color   the mix. I have used jello too - they both work. It also works for cookie dough. Just last week I made pink cherry   flavor hearts for valentines day!
    Be carefull about adding too much though the flavor can get a little intense especially with jello.
     Hope this helps     Julie

Author: MaraTLee
     Subject: Adding color to cake mix
     Date: Tue Feb 24 13:13:12 1998

     Message:

     Dear Rochelle:

     Adding color to a cake mix is a fun way to add instant eye appeal to the end product. I use the paste food colors   and color the batter to as close a shade as I need. then bake as usual. I do a nice, yellow and lavender for Easter.
     A nice green and red for X-mas, or a purple and gold for graduations, (as this is our school colors!)---I have even   used the checkerboard cake pans!--it always facinates people to no end. You can color your cake batter and   drop by spoonfuls into the pan or you can bake colored layers and put 2 complimentary colors together.     Mara

Author: Julie
     Subject: 2 questions
     Date: Mon Feb 16 16:55:24 1998

     Message:

     1st, I think I know what the response is going to be but - I've heard that making royal icing with egg whites is   much stonger than m-powder. But what about raw eggs and little kids and do they keep for as long?
     2nd has anyone out there ever taken courses at the Wilton School of Cake Decorating and Confectionery Art? I    was thinking about the gum past class but don't know is $125 too much - I think I've seen some people learn on    their own just with the kit.
    Thanks in advance for your response    Julie

Author: Kathy M.
     Subject: Wilton School
     Date: Mon Feb 16 18:07:19 1998

     Message:

     Hi, Julie
     My niece went to the school a couple of years ago. She
     really learned a lot and thought it was worth it. She does beautiful work. On the other hand I've never been to the    school and have learned everything on my own reading the books and practicing (am still learning)    I may not be as good as she is with the gum paste right now but I'm sure with more practice, I will be.

Author: lynne
     Subject: Re: 2 questions
     Date: Mon Feb 16 19:04:40 1998

     Message:

     hi julie;
     re: egg whites -- what are you making w/the royal? do you really need the stronger royal? if it is for little ones i    don't think i would use the whites. if you are making string work on fondant cakes it might consider using it.
     re school: is there any place near by you to take lessons? what kind of learner are you? have you been able to    teach yourself lots from books? do you get frustrated when it dosen't turn out right and quite?
     to take lessons near home prolly will cost as much but you won't have the extra expense of staying in a hotel/motel    and all your meals out. also take into consideration the cost of getting to wilton's school. hope i've given you food    for thought :)     lynne

Author: Julie
     Subject: Wilton School
     Date: Mon Feb 16 21:41:54 1998

     Message:

     Thanks for your quick responses
     I used the royal icing to make cupid gumballs. The kids at them and loved them but they were so fragil many    broke in transportions. But I'm convinced my children love the "crunchy sugar flowers" - I'm sticking with the    powder.
     The thing with Wilton is I live 15 minutes away. I have not found anyplace else around here that teaches anything.
     There is a supply store in Chicago but they say they only do a very basic class. I told them I've done the 3 wilton    classes at Michael's and they said "don't bother."
     I'm considereing becoming a Wilton instructor - I should look into if they give any discounts to teachers - that   could be the deciding factor!     Thanks again,     Julie

Author: Tami
     Subject: re:gumballs
     Date: Tue Feb 17 19:36:32 1998

     Message:

     Hi Julie,
     Those cupid gumballs sound cute. How did you do them?     Tami

Author: Tami
     Subject: Royal and School
     Date: Mon Feb 16 19:10:18 1998

     Message:

     Hi,

     The egg white royal is definately stronger. I you're making    lace or stringwork. But if it's something someone is going    to eat, use the meringue powder. It's safer and is still    plenty strong for anything you could make and wouldn't cry    about if someone ate it. Once it's hardened, it lasts  forever, I still have stuff from 6 years ago.
     I have also been to the Wilton school on a scholarship.   I took the Lambeth class, If Nick Lodge or some other real   well known person if teaching the Gum Paste, that price is   great. But I don't care for any of the Wilton tools or  cutters, or their pre-made Gum Paste, it's real hard to work  with, unless they've revised it recently. I have taken  Gum Paste from many instructors at mini-classes in California (this July is another one). It's still going  to cost quite a bit. Nick charges about $60 for 4 to 6   hour classes(he's great). That's still a bargain. You  could learn from books, but for your first time using it,  take a class. Hope this helps.   Tami

Author: Donna
     Subject: Scholarship
     Date: Mon Feb 16 22:22:25 1998

     Message:

     Hi. Tami,     I was wondering how does a person go about getting a scholarship to Wiltons school.. Also where is this school   located??
     Any infomation would be greatly appreciated... Thank you.     Donna

Author: Carolyn
     Subject: Scholarships
     Date: Mon Feb 16 23:46:32 1998

     Message:

     ICES gives out several scholarships every year and when you fill out the form, I believe you can specify where   you would like to take a class. The Wilton school is in Chicago. If you are not familiar with ICES, I would love to   tell you more about it! Just e-mail me. It is a world-wide organization for cake decorators and we have a   convention every August. It is too late to apply for a scholarship for this year, but you could apply soon to get in   on next year's list of applicants. I'd be glad to get more details for you if you want to e-mail me at   Bridal1@AOL.Com.

Author: Donna
     Subject: RE: Scholarship infomation
     Date: Thu Feb 19 01:42:02 1998

     Message:

     Hi. Carolyn,
     I sent you an e-mail stating I would appreciate any info you had to offer... I hope you received it.. If you didn't I   will send it again..
     Thank you for your time...     Donna

Author: Susan
     Subject: Wilton School
     Date: Mon Feb 16 21:19:43 1998

     Message:

     Julie,
     I took a gum paste course at a place where the woman sells cake supplies. That is where I learned alot of my