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<Dolores7>   Mindy...leave off index.html or that
<Dolores7>   Hi CarolAnn!
<MindyMac>   hi CarolAnnTX, and MarissaT
<MarissaT>   hello everyone
<tiG1>   HI Carol
<Dolores7>   F1 stringwork LOL
<tiG1>   oops, hit enter:) CarolAnn
<MindyMac>   so I put on all of the address except for the very end?
<tiG1>   wouldn't that be neat?
<Dolores7>   For those that came on...we're thinking far ahead tonight. We want to make macros for dec. our cakes LOL
[CarolAnnTX]   Hi Dee, Sorry I didn't make it to your place last Thursday.
<tiG1>   Mindy, do you have a directory of pictures?
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[CarolAnnTX]   Hi Everyone!
<MindyMac>   I don't know,  it's just a page where we can post pictures
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<Dolores7>   Oh - Carol Ann...I'd forgotten...so busy. Frances Kuyper was here that day too
<Dolores7>   Hi Bama
<MindyMac>   hi BamaBaker
<Dolores7>   Mindy...try it...
<tiG1>   Okay, when you click on a picture, then right click on the picture and select properties, it will show the addy to post in your messages
<tiG1>   hi Bama
<MindyMac>   oh,  okay.  I'll try that
<BamaBaker>   Hello everyone
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<tiG1>   where are you in Bama?
<tiG1>   I'm 40 miles from the line
<tiG1>   in GA
<Dolores7>   ...and copy/paste it Mindy
<BamaBaker>   North AL,  1 hr north of Birmingham, 1 hr south of Huntsville
<Dolores7>   Marissa....where are you?
<MindyMac>   okay,  I'm going to go try it
[CarolAnnTX]   I wanted to be there but I hadn't seen some friends and family for a couple of years and they wouldn't let me out of the house.
<MarissaT>   in ny right now but home is in orlando.
<tiG1>   Thats not too far from me, I'm in west middle GA
<Dolores7>   go for it...If you goof, let me know and I'll delete it
<BamaBaker>   tiG1...ok..near Atlanta?
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<tiG1>   Newnan
<Dolores7>   Marissa...thought you were someone else...way far away from the USA
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<Dolores7>   You had fun...thats important. Was a wild day. Frances stayed a lot longer than planned - we had a great time.
<BamaBaker>   tiG1...I've been there,  friend of mine lived there.  It's a very nice town
<Dolores7>   Hi Trish...and Dunk
<TrishCA>   hi
<tiG1>   it sure has grown. Maybe you can start a club and I can travel a bit:)
<MarissaT>   dolores, i met you briefly just after bkeith's demo - just outside the room
<Dolores7>   oh...I don't remember...soooo many people!
<Dolores7>   Was sure a lot of fun
<tiG1>   what's on the menu Delores?
<Dunkccc>   Hi all
<BamaBaker>   tiG...that would be nice
<tiG1>   hi Dunk
[CarolAnnTX]   I had a fun time, my sister's birthday is this coming friday so we all celebrated it on wednesday.
<Dolores7>   I don't know, Earlene is doing it...didn't tell me
<MarissaT>   it was just very briefly.
<tiG1>   it would be for me, I don't have anything here:)
<Dolores7>   How's Tammy tonight?
<Dolores7>   club...if you do...check out ny file on cake clubs...may be helpful
<Dunkccc>   OK--I can finally see.  Had an eye exam today and they dialated my eyes so things were blurry for quite a while.
<BamaBaker>   tiG...we're supposed to have a DOS in Oct.  When I get all the details, I'll let you know.  come join us!
<Dolores7>   I'm thinking about starting a cake club here
<tiG1>   oh, please do!!! I'm tG on the board
<Dolores7>   good Tammy
<BamaBaker>   tiG...you should do well in Newnan, from what I understand, there aren't many bakers there.
<Dunkccc>   It's a wonder I got home--should probably had someone drive me home!
<Dolores7>   Earlene is making pearls...and pearls...and pearls, for a wed. cake
<tiG1>   I don't know, I'm head decorator at Walmart, and stay real busy just there, but I want to do my own!!!!
<Dunkccc>   A Walmart superstore?  Didn't know they had cakes.
<Dolores7>   don't have cakes at ours
<tiG1>   Superwalmart, I love it, you can buy milk and panties at the same store
[CarolAnnTX]   That would be fun a cake club of chat talker, we could be the cake chatters of the inter-net!
<Dunkccc>   There's a super Walmart in AR where my mother in law lives--she loves it.
<BamaBaker>   tiG..that's what I meant.  Not too many home decorators....Walmart and isn't it Publix there in Newnan are just about the only places to get cakes
<tiG1>   we have a huge bakery
<TrishCA>   lol.....no super Walmart here, only a Super Kmart
<tiG1>   they're the only good places:) but I'm afraid to advertise!
<tiG1>   I just did a biggy at a huge convention center, hoping for some word of mouth
<Dolores7>   tiG...no need after awhile...word of mouth is better
[CarolAnnTX]   Don't have any cakes at ours either
<Dolores7>   oops...Earlene isn't here
<tiG1>   I'm praying:) and learning a lot from all of you!
<BamaBaker>   tiG....word of mouth has been better for my shop than all the advertising dollars I've spent.
<Dolores7>   word of mouth brings good customers
<tiG1>   mom works at the hospital, I send cakes all the time!
<BamaBaker>   word of mouth also brings the lousy ones in too!  *lol*
<Dolores7>   bet Earlene meant 9PM her time
<tiG1>   they love them, but they never order!! oh well, I'm gonna keep trying
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<Dolores7>   hi traciep
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[CarolAnnTX]   That's how I get a lot of my customers, word of mouth.
<tiG1>   hi tracie
<Dolores7>   and Marida!
<BamaBaker>   tiG...it takes time to build a business like this,  it's hard to be patient though
<Marida1>   I had a hard time getting in here.
<Dunkccc>   I get tired of people at my work wanting free cakes but I won't do them for free.
<tiG1>   it is hard! I want it all, and I want it now!!:)
<traciep>   hey Dolores, sorry I missed Frances.  Had a "cake emergency"
<tiG1>   I've never had so much fun in all my life
<Dolores7>   But take classes and learn while your bus. grows
<tiG1>   hi Marida
<Dolores7>   emergency? we had a big time tho!
<Dunkccc>   Hey Marida--I loved that response you did "Wow, Jumping Sugar."  I started cracking up.
<traciep>   you know, one of those I need it today.
[CarolAnnTX]   They are Colorful Traciep and pin lady Marida,Hi!
<Dolores7>   Earlene was going to lead the chat tonight but I think we messed up on time
<Marida1>   That is what it sounded like to me.
<Dolores7>   ok...what is 'jumping sugar'?
<Marida1>   Are you home now, Carol?
[CarolAnnTX]   I got home Sunday night.
<Marida1>   Some decorator said she had so much static the sugar came out of the bowl.
<MindyMac>   Darn,  it didn't work
<Dolores7>   oh...I saw some of that...must be dryer than here
<tiG1>   Mindy, did you use the brackets and img src=
<tiG1>   and the quote marks on the addy?
<tiG1>   it has to say <img src="http://www.whatever.com/yoursite/filename.jpg">
[CarolAnnTX]   That was a long ride from New York,(Corning and Addison).
<Dolores7>   <IMG SRC="http://w3.one.net/~proicer/picture.jpg"> is the string for me
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<LynneCA1>   12 Hi everybody !
<Dolores7>   Hi Lynne
<tiG1>   Hi lynne!
<Dunkccc>   Hi
<MindyMac>   yes,  I think so.  <img src=
<LynneCA1>   hello, hello everyone!
<TrishCA>   well hello stranger(lynne)
<BamaBaker>   Hi
<MindyMac>   Mine is really long though.
<tiG1>   what's the addy for the picture?
<tiG1>   it doesn't matter
<LynneCA1>   look who's talking! (trish
<Marida1>   Dolores, did you know the person Keith brought his store from?
<MindyMac>   and I couldn't copy and paste it from the properties page
<tiG1>   they may not allow hotlinking
<Dolores7>   you'll need to copy/paste that from somewehre Mindy
<Dolores7>   Yes...I heard...how does he like it?
<TrishCA>   you got me Lynne,,,,good to see ya kid :)
<tiG1>   you can upload them to a geocities site, they allow hotlinking
<Dolores7>   oops...no I don't know her
<MindyMac>   so I copied it from the address thing at the top of the page and then filled in the rest of the address that the properties page had.  Would that be right?
<tiG1>   no, they should be the same
<Dolores7>   bet he won't like all those 16 hour days before long...and not having time to create
<tiG1>   if you get the picture on your page, only the addy that shows in properties is what you need
<tiG1>   not both
<Dolores7>   try that Mindy...don't forget after it to add ">
<Marida1>   That is what all of us are thinking.  He is planning on baking in his store.  I don't think so.
<Dolores7>   not unless he can afford some loyal employees
<MindyMac>   it isn't the same.  it ends with a bunch of Z's and the properties page ends with the name of the picture and jpg
<Marida1>   Fran Wheat would be his competition and she works all the time in her store.
<tiG1>   use the addy on the properties page
<Dolores7>   you can't create when you have to work so many hours just to pay overhead
<MindyMac>   but the address that shows in the properties thing does have the beginning of the address that is at the top of the page
<Dolores7>   ...jpg"> is the end
<Dolores7>   with the brackets
<tiG1>   that's okay, just use whats on the properties. what is the addy?
<Marida1>   You are right Dolores.  I use to laugh when I was doing Wedding cakes for that Washington Redskin who had a bakery.  I knew I was making more money then he was!
<Dolores7>   oh my! and she is well established too!
<tiG1>   I can get you the right code
<MindyMac>   It's really long,  do you want it all?
<tiG1>   yes
<Marida1>   We have a huge cake club in Virginia and he might pull from that.
<Dolores7>   yes...I wish I made 5% and you all make a lot better than that - and its fun
<Dolores7>   start a new cake club?
<Dolores7>   I'm thinking of starting a cake club here
<Dunkccc>   Where do you think you'd have it at?
<Dolores7>   at my shop Tammy...would you come?
<Marida1>   When people come to the meetings Fran is always bringing us stuff.  Maybe he will get some of that business also.  I think Fran is in a better part of the county,
<Dolores7>   Sue, Joyce & I would do one good demo each month and we could get together for DOS etc
<Dunkccc>   Depends on when it is and what time--all of my other activities always seem to be the last week of the month.
<Dolores7>   it just about has to be on the first Tuesdays of the month
<Dunkccc>   Humane Society, Eastern Hills Cake Club, etc.
<MindyMac>   http://www.myfamily.com/isapi.dll/clContent/f/Viewproperty/siteid/8_eCAI/contentclass/PICT/contentid/ZZZZZZZQ/propertyname/File/vB7zipK4WkPUik1kndYFcEC~/art_show.jpg
<Dunkccc>   Hey, I think that would work--would be a bit of a drive though.
<Marida1>   Mindy, what is that?
<Dunkccc>   But well worth it!
<MindyMac>   everything I typed didn't go on there
<Dolores7>   we'd make it worthwhile Dunk ;-)
<tiG1>   okay, that didn't work
<tiG1>   can you send me in another way?
<Dunkccc>   Oh I know you would!!!!!!!
<Marida1>   If I lived near you, Dolores, I would come with bells on.
<MindyMac>   There's a bunch more after content
[CarolAnnTX]   Me tooooooo!!!!
<MindyMac>   I'm working on getting a picture posted on the message board
<Dolores7>   we'd all have fun together!
<BamaBaker>   I'd be there too!!
<tiG1>   can you just send me in the front door and tell me which picture?
<MindyMac>   how would I do that?
<Dunkccc>   Don't forget -- I'm one of your "groupies."
<Dolores7>   Mindy...I wonder if you can have those spaces...can't ftp files with spaces I know...bet you can't use them.
<Dolores7>   LOL...good name
<tiG1>   how do you go to look at the pictures? forget the property thing for a minute
<MindyMac>   My daughter emailed me a link to get into it
<tiG1>   if you were sending me a link to look at your pictures, what would it be?
<Dunkccc>   Dee--what size Canon printer was that for the frosting sheets at convention that did both sizes?
<MindyMac>   and it takes me straight to the page
<tiG1>   what's that link?
<tiG1>   is that the link you use?
<Dolores7>   it was the 3000...but doesn't do the large I don't think. Only the 5100 does large
<Marida1>   Dolores, can you get that stuff Keith was using wholesale so you could sell it?
<Dunkccc>   I thought Rudy showed the back of it and it can do a large wheet.
<Dolores7>   oh sure...from where he gets it
<MindyMac>   is your email address on the message board tig
<Dunkccc>   Oops sheet.
<tiG1>   it's missytig@charter.net
<Dolores7>   maybe so...but it doesn't say so in the directions.
<MindyMac>   I'll try to send you an email link to it
<tiG1>   great:)
<Dolores7>   Marida...we have SOOO much stuff ordered from ICES!
<Dolores7>   Folks...Earlene was suppose to lead this chat but something has happened. Maybe she is on central time too.
<tiG1>   Mindy, are you on ICQ?
<Dunkccc>   Ooooh what goodies are you getting?
<MindyMac>   yes
<Dolores7>   best thing I like are the Sunflower molds...cutter and 2pc presses. Love them
<TrishCA>   Yes Dolores, please tell us what to start saving for :)
<MindyMac>   I'm on ICQ
<MarissaT>   dolores, are those the white plunger cutters?
<Dolores7>   A local cake decorator won at the fair after we got her one. I showed her just a little bit.
<MindyMac>   I sent you an email for it.  I don't know if that will get you to my page though
<tiG1>   I'm 70308872
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<Dolores7>   not plungers...the cutter is like a cookie cutter. Then you press it into shape with the mold - veins it too.
<TrishCA>   Lynne have you spoken with Jean lately?
<sgr>   Ha!ha!  Hi Trish
<sgr>   Hi All!
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<Marida1>   Dolores, were the sunflowers sorta like the dogwood cutter and presses?  I have Nick Lodges cutters but those sound different.
<Dolores7>   LOL Trish...if you do gumpaste I'd try those cutters. In the Southern Living wedding mag they show a dogwood wedding cake SO many people are doing
<TrishCA>   lol.....too funny I didn't even see you jump in here, your5 sneaky...lol
<Jean-sgr>   LOL
<Jean-sgr>   was out to dinner just got in. LOL
[CarolAnnTX]   From what I could see she (Dee) , was ordering everything under the sun from soup to nuts!!!
<Dolores7>   nothing like Nick's. I think these are better because all flowers will be shaped just perfect with veins just by pressing between the silicon molds
<Dolores7>   NOT ME - it was Sue!
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<Dolores7>   Jean was here last week
<Marida1>   Have you got them in yet?
[CarolAnnTX]   I want to get some of those 3-d cutters, the stand uo deer.
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<TrishCA>   when will these cutter-thingies be in?
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<Marida1>   There's Earlene.
[CarolAnnTX]   up
<Dolores7>   not here yet...will put them on when I do...finishing taxes all day today and tomorrow
<TrishCA>   Well hello Earlene
<Dolores7>   Hi Earlene...you made it!
<Dunkccc>   LOL  that's to keep us cake addicts supplied!
<MindyMac>   did you get my email yet tig
[CarolAnnTX]   There she is Hi Earlene!
<tiG1>   Hi Earlene!
<Dunkccc>   Yeah there's Earlene!!!!!!
<tiG1>   yes, just send icq
<Dolores7>   don't know when they'll arrive - had to spend $1500.00 to get them!
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<tiG1>   don't worry delores, we'll buy them all!
<TrishCA>   Oh WOw!!!!!!!!!!!
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<Dolores7>   LOL
<Marida1>   Hi, Renee.
<Dolores7>   Hi Renee!
<ReneeS>   he everyone! I made it tonight!
<Dolores7>   I want to try those cutters myself!
<Marida1>   Last week Renee kept getting kicked out.
<Dunkccc>   Hi Renee.
<ReneeS>   hello Tammy!
<TrishCA>   WEll then Dolores I will be sure and do my share of shopping,,,lol  it's for a good cause :)
<BamaBaker>   Hi Renee
<Dolores7>   Earlene is having problems...may be why shes late
<ReneeS>   that is you right?
[CarolAnnTX]   Oh Dear there she goes, hope she makes it back.
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<Dolores7>   LOL
<Earlene>   Where did you see the stand up deer cutters Carol Ann
<Dunkccc>   Was that your picture on Dee's page--it was a very good picture.
<Dolores7>   Earlene!
<Earlene>   Well I got to stay for a whole 2 seconds
<Dolores7>   on the back wall Earlene...we ordered a bunch
<ReneeS>   you mean that poster size one of the three of us and I look like an Amazon standing next to Marida?
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<Dolores7>   maybe someone else has 'earlene'
<Marida1>   Be nice to yurself, Renee.
<ReneeS>   haha!
<Dolores7>   LOL...Renee...I liked that picture!
<earleneTX>   I think they do I just need to change my Nick to earleneTX or pwdsugar
<ReneeS>   thanks Delores, i did too, i was honored to be in a picture with you all
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<Dolores7>   Hi Sandy
<SandyKS>   hi everyone
<Jean-sgr>   Hi Sandy
<earleneTX>   Great picture Dolores - I wish I had taken my camera to the meeting
<Dolores7>   I can't get the pictures deleted LOL...500 of them
<Marida1>   Dolores, put one of the pink car on there if you have it.
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<earleneTX>   I printed it off and am going to put it on my wall behind the computer so maybe by next year I will know the names to go with your faces
<Dunkccc>   Amazon---noooo!  It was a great picture!
[CarolAnnTX]   It was at one of the end rows of toward the wall, I remember when I came to the of the row I was near the exit.
<ReneeS>   thanks Dunkccc
<Jean-sgr>   Hi Marie
<Dolores7>   and I messed up - took some black & white ones by mistake...not of us thank goodness
<SandyKS>   hi Marie
<Dunkccc>   The picture I took of the large lighted castle didn't turn out--I was bummed about that.
<KampyCake>   Hello all
<Dolores7>   neato Earlene
<ReneeS>   thanks a great idea earlene! I was wondering what I would do when the message fades off the website!
<Dolores7>   Hi Kampy
<Dunkccc>   Renee--you looked like a model.
<Dolores7>   Hi Jean
<Jean-sgr>   Hi Dolores
<KampyCake>   Hi Sandy, Hi Jean, Hi Lynne, Hi Dolores
<MindyMac>   Hi Marie and Sandy
<KampyCake>   Hi Mindy
<MindyMac>   Marie, did you just beep me?
<Dolores7>   how many of you saw last years pict. when I goofed?
<Marida1>   I printed it out but could only get bout 3/4ths of them.  who was the lady with the red sweater in the back row?
<Dolores7>   Earlene - did you have something to send up?
<earleneTX>   It was fun getting to meet you guys - but PJ made Dolores and I sit up front and I felt like I didn't really get to visit with you guys
<earleneTX>   I do have Dee.  Late but I did get that done
<KampyCake>   yes, I did, not realizing at first that it was Tuesday evening LOL  Just shut up the chickens.
<ReneeS>   thanks dunkccc, your'e sweet to think that
<Dolores7>   I still don't have some identified...hoped someone could tell me
<ReneeS>   you maean the one on the upper right corner holding up her paper Marida?
<Marida1>   PJ wheels a big stick.  Poor Keith.
<Dolores7>   making pearls Earlene?
<Jean-sgr>   LOL
<Marida1>   Yes.
<KampyCake>   I saw it!  I was in it!
<MindyMac>   Dolores, there is a bunch of mistakes for you to delete on the message board
[CarolAnnTX]   Dee, say the cutters.
[CarolAnnTX]   saw
<earleneTX>   PEARLS - PEARLS - PEARLS
<Dolores7>   ok Mindy ;-)...tomorrow morning
<Dolores7>   you'll see them in your sleep
<SandyKS>   what pics are you talking about. I'm lose
<earleneTX>   PEARLS ON THE CAKES SEEMS TO BE ALL THE RAGE RIGHT NOW.  ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE EDIBLE.  I WILL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ARTIFICIAL PEARLS ON A CAKE.
<Marida1>   Earlene, did you try CK's newest pearls?
<ReneeS>   does edible include the dragee pearls?
<earleneTX>   I HAVE A HORROR OF A BROKEN TOOTH OR SOMEONE SWALLOWING THOSE ARTIFICIAL PEARLS ON A CAKE.  YES SOME OF THEM ARE STRUNG AND THEN HAVE TO BE REMOVED BY THE STRING WHICH ALSO TEARS UP YOUR CAREFULLY DONE TRIMS AND BORDERS.   SO WHY NOT USE THE EDIBLE PEARLS
<Dolores7>   I don't mind the artificial if they are on strings. I tried & can't break those at all.
<earleneTX>   I got them about 2 months before the convention Marida - love them
<earleneTX>   They sent them to me to play with - that 13 mm for borders is wonderful
<KampyCake>   Sandy I think they're talking about the pictures that D. posted on the board
<Dunkccc>   I'm still confused about the dusts they use on the pearls--the dusts are edible?
<Dolores7>   I tell them to give them to the little girls...they'll dance all over at the wedding and have fun
<Marida1>   I was going to buy them but never got over there.  I am doing so many cakes with pearls.  Martha has one with a monogram on it and I am going to use the pearls.  I booked three of those cakes last Thursday.
<SandyKS>   I tried looking for them, where did you hide them Dolores?
<earleneTX>   DOLORES HAS TWO SIZES OF READY TO USE PEARLS  I THINK THEY ARE 4 MM AND 6 MM.   THEY DON¹T REALLY HAVE THE PEARL LOOK BUT AFTER YOU HAVE ATTACHED THEM TO THE CAKE WITH PIPING GEL, BUTTERCREAM ICING OR ROYAL ICING THEY CAN EASILY BE PAINTED WITH A MIXTURE OF LEMON EXTRACT AND PEARL DUST.
<Dolores7>   right Sandy...and Mindy is trying to upload one now too
<earleneTX>   AT LEAST THAT IS FASTER THAN MAKING THEM INDIVIDUALLY YOURSELF.  I HAVE SPENT ABOUT TWO DAYS MAKING PEARLS FOR A CAKE THAT WENT OUT THIS AFTERNOON.  THOSE TWO SIZES WOULD HAVE SAVED ME A LOT OF THAT TIME.
<Dunkccc>   I'm sure you charged for your extra peal work.
<Dolores7>   Earlene...they say to shake these in pearl dust? Never tried
<ReneeS>   do you mean the pearls that are dragees? not silver, but with pearl dust on them?
<earleneTX>   The dusts are non toxic and can be eaten Dunkccc
<Dunkccc>   Ooops again -- pearl
<KampyCake>   I tried to make pearls with fondant and I couldn't stand to sit and do that
<earleneTX>   IT IS A BORING  AND MONOTONOUS JOB - ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN DO WHEN THE ORDERS AREN¹T SO FRANTIC.  I NOW HAVE 13 SIZES OF PEARLS IN CONTAINERS READY TO BE USED.
<Marida1>   Earlene, I tried your method of mixing them up in a jar and it really really works!! Thanks for that tip.
<tiG1>   I made about 20 before I went crazy
<Dolores7>   not dragees...are plain white - and are on my GUMPASTE page at the top...yes pearl dust
<earleneTX>   I MAKE A LOT OF ONE SIZE FROM FLAVORED FONDANT- LET THEM SIT OVERNIGHT - AND THEN PUT THEM IN A CONTAINER WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE PEARL DUST.  SHAKE THEM UP GOOD AND THEY COME OUT MAGICALLY LOOKING LIKE PEARLS.
<Dunkccc>   So that means lustre and pearl dusts are OK?  Good to know--I always kept hearing otherwise.
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<earleneTX>   a whole 20 tiG1    LOL
<Dolores7>   Hello Helen
<earleneTX>   IF THEY LOOK GLITTERY AND NOT REALLY LIKE PEARLS YOU MAY NEED TO ADD A LITTLE MORE OF THE PEARL DUST AND SHAKE THEM UP AGAIN.   MUCH EASIER THAN PAINTING EACH OF THEM WITH THE PEARL DUST MIXED WITH LEMON EXTRACT.  BUT THAT COULD BE DONE ALSO IF YOU WANT THEM SUPER SHINY.
<Dolores7>   yes Dunk
<tiG1>   earlene, you don't wet them do you? I know, 20 and I was going nuts!
<earleneTX>   Nope sure don't tiG1
<helen_oh>   hi everyone!
<Marida1>   Mine were real shiny, Earlene, and I just did what you said to do with the jar.
<KampyCake>   somebody was using tapioca for pearls, but those are really hard.
<earleneTX>   THE EASIEST WAY I HAVE FOUND TO MAKE MANY PEARLS ALL THE SAME SIZE IS TO ROLL THE FONDANT OUT (NUMBER ONE ON A PASTA MACHINE) OR ABOUT 1/8 INCH THICK
<KampyCake>   Hi Helen O
<earleneTX>   THEN USING YOUR TIPS CUT LITTLE CIRCLES AND ROLL THEM UP IN YOUR HAND AND PUT THEM IN A LID TO DRY.  I START WITH TIPS #8, 10, 12, AND SEVERAL SIZES OF THE TIPS BASES.
<Dolores7>   Dunk...these pearls are fondant and the dusts aren't toxic...just like eating dragees...they aren't food either
<earleneTX>   YOU CAN FIND A PICTURE AND THE SIZES INSTRUCTIONS ON MY WEB SITE FOR MAKING YOUR OWN PEARLS.  I NOW HAVE CONTAINERS WITH 13 SIZES OF PEARLS READY TO BE USED ON THE CAKES.
<earleneTX>   ANOTHER GOOD USE FOR THESE PEARLS IS TO HAVE A SAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENT FLAVORS FOR THE BRIDES TO TASTE OF THE ROLLED FONDANT.  ORANGE, LEMON, ALM
<KampyCake>   I saw those on your web page Earlene - quite innovative
<earleneTX>   OND AND MINT ARE THE FLAVORS I PLAN ON HAVING FOR THEM TO TRY.  WHEN I GET THE TIME TO DO THEM.
<Dolores7>   ...and now you have plenty of experience Earlene LOL
<tiG1>   yep! that's how I did it, and I went nuts!!!! you are a brave soul Earlene
<helen_oh>   hi kampy
<earleneTX>   Lots of experience - booooooooorrrrrring job
[CarolAnnTX]   Doesn't the Air pen make good pearls?
<SandyKS>   someone on D's bulletin board said they purchased pearl dusts or lustre dusts in big quantities. Do you have them in larger containers, D?
<Marida1>   Earlene, do you like doing it that way rather than the mold CK has?
<earleneTX>   COUNTRY KITCHEN ALSO HAS THE WONDERFUL PEARL MAKERS NOW AVAILABLE IN SEVERAL SIZES AND STYLES.  THESE PEARL MAKERS GIVE YOU A STRIP ABOUT 6 INCHES LONG
<KampyCake>   it's called sticktoitiveness
<Dolores7>   Airpen will pick them up I understand
<earleneTX>   Their molds are great for borders - but individual pearls on a cake
<KampyCake>   I would think it would take forever to put them on a cake.  I still like the strings of pearls.  *everyone boo*
<earleneTX>   you would still have to cut them apart and roll them.
<TrishCA>   Yes D, do you carries dust in large quanities?
<Dolores7>   Sandy...let us know the qy\uantity you want. We can get larger containers
[CarolAnnTX]   I saw that, I thought you could make pearls too?
<earleneTX>   AND ARE MUCH FASTER FOR MAKING BORDERS AROUND THE BASES OF YOUR CAKES.  PLAIN ROUND PEARLS IN SIZES 4, 6, 8 AND 13 MM.  OVAL PEARLS, A FACETED BEAD, AND A ROSE PEARL ARE ALSO AVAILABLE.
<Dolores7>   I think so Trish
<SandyKS>   what sizes would you have D?
<Dolores7>   AIRPEN...use that to pick up the pearls to place on the cake...works I think...they showed this in their booth
<earleneTX>   I just ordered a large container of the pearl dust from CK - about $90 and had to pay for it up front.  I did hear that they are now carrying it regularly so you don't have to special order it anymore
<Dolores7>   Sandy...I don't have any idea....sorry
<Dolores7>   Sandy...beads or dusts?
<TrishCA>   I tries that with my airpen....I couldn'y get it to work, the dragee might of been to large :(
<earleneTX>   For the small ones Dolores - It won't work on the large ones
<SandyKS>   that's ok. I just remember someone said they liked the bigger quantities of dust
<Dolores7>   then we'll have it...in large quantities - easy to get
<earleneTX>   I think what you have is 4mm and 6 mm Dolores - those are really small
<earleneTX>   TO USE THOSE MOLDS YOU NEED TO FIRM UP SOME FONDANT WITH PWD SUGAR ADDED TO THE FONDANT OR MIX SOME FONDANT AND GUMPASTE.  IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A FIRMER DOUGH.  DUST THE PEARL MAKER LIBERALLY WITH PEARL DUST AND THEN PLACE A LENGTH OF THE DOUGH DOWN THE CENTER.
<Dolores7>   I thought maybe it wouldn't work on the large. They showed picking up dragees
[CarolAnnTX]   I 'll  have to get the pearl maker have to put many pearls on a wedding cake or two coming up.
<earleneTX>   I PREFER TO MASH THAT DOWN SLIGHTLY AND THEN CLOSE THE MOLD AROUND THAT SUGAR MIXTURE.  THE BIGGER PEARLS OF COURSE TAKE A LARGER AROUND LENGTH OF SUGAR DOUGH.
<earleneTX>   PEARLS SCATTERED OVER A CAKE BY THEM SELVES ARE GORGEOUS.  PEARLS TO ACCENT THE LACE PIECES, PEARLS TO BORDER TRIMS, PEARLS AS BORDERS,  WHO KNOWS WHERE THE USE OF PEARLS WILL GO NOW WITH THE NEWER EQUIPMENT MAKING IT EASIER FOR US TO MAKE THEM AND USE THEM.
<Dolores7>   yes...4 and 6mm
<earleneTX>   I HAVE SEVERAL NEW CAKE PICTURES I JUST HAVEN¹T HAD THE TIME TO GET ON MY WEB SITE - SEVERAL WITH PEARLS.  HOPEFULLY I WILL GET THOSE ON IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.   www.earlenescakes.com
[CarolAnnTX]   Dee, you have the pearl making mold?
<MarissaT>   earlene, do you have to dry the pearls on foam?
<Dolores7>   CarolAnn - yes...on the GUMPASTE page
<Dolores7>   I can't wait to see that!
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<KampyCake>   who is the new president of ICES?
<Jean-sgr>   do you all make most of your pearls of gumpaste or fondant
<Dolores7>   don't know her name
<KampyCake>   and who got the awards and why?
<earleneTX>   I delivered a cake this afternoon with an umbrella made from a sugar bouquets lace mold and add some of the pearls for trim.  The cake had toothpick roses, tiny gp blossoms and lots of pearls scattered - you should have heard the women at the bank.  You would have thought they had never seen a cake before
<ReneeS>   i don't know, i was there, but marida was distracting me!
<earleneTX>   NOW DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT MAKING THE PEARLS?  OR HOW TO PAINT THEM OR HOW TO USE THEM?
<Dolores7>   Kampy...people always are honored...and they tell who our new officers are etc...only time we get to see them
<MarissaT>   do you have to dry them on foam, earlene?
<earleneTX>   Marissa I just drop them on a large lid to dry.  The foam does soujnd like a good idea.  Sue O'Boyle-Jacobson is the new President
<Dolores7>   great Earlene....probably hadn't seen one of yours
<Marida1>   Wasn't her name Sue something.
<ReneeS>   was is a wedding shower cake Earlene?
<Dunkccc>   Marida was distracting everyone.  LOL
<ReneeS>   I need some wedding shower cake ideas
<tiG1>   Earlene, about how many do you do of one size for a cake?
<Dolores7>   oh right...I voted for Sue LOL
<KampyCake>   OK, thank you Earlene
<earleneTX>   Right renee - three tier - rolled fondant - it was pretty
<KampyCake>   She was president before
<Marida1>   I was the chaperone.  you all were distracting!!
<KampyCake>   bad girls!
<SandyKS>   Marida, I used PJ and your gumpaste recipe this past weekend. I added 1/4 c. cocoa powder and brown paste plus a little more water. Got a pretty brown bow. Was luck enough that it almost matched the shade of my chocolate buttercream for the groom's cake.
<earleneTX>   It depends on the cake tiG1
<Dolores7>   chaperone LOL
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<Dunkccc>   Uh uh, you were one of the main instigators.  LOL
<earleneTX>   THE NEW STRESS FREE CAKE SUPPORTS FOR STACKED CAKES.  HAVE YOU SEEN THEM?  DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THEM?
<Dolores7>   so right Dunk!
<Marida1>   I need to make a whole lot of GP burgandy tulips and I keep getting it too soft when I add the burgandy.
<earleneTX>   I MET ARLENE HAASE IN MN IN MARCH.  SHE HAD BROUGHT THESE SUPPORT RINGS TO SHOW THE OTHER DECORATORS IN HER AREA.  NOW ONE WAS REALLY PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO THEM BUT THEY WERE A BIT CURIOUS LOOKING.
<Dolores7>   I understand now - after I watched her awhile
<Dunkccc>   We were having our own fun--right Dee?
<Dolores7>   we sure were
<earleneTX>   I ASKED HER ABOUT THEM AND SHE AGREED TO LET ME BRING ONE OF THE RINGS AND A SET OF LEGS HOME TO TRY AND TO SHOW THE OTHER DECORATORS IN OUR AREA.
<Dolores7>   they are very different and may take time to catch on - but are SO safe
<earleneTX>   I HAVE NOW USED THEM TOTALLY IN EVERY STACKED CAKE I HAVE DONE SINCE THE FIRST OF MAY WHICH IS ALMOST ALL OF THE CAKES.   THEY ARE WONDERFUL, STURDY,  SECURE AND AS SHE SAYS STRESS FREE.
<TrishCA>   Explain these to me Earlene....been thinking of buying...I really hate the whole straw thing, especially after one of the straws bent in one of my wed cakes this weekend and cause a minor problem :(
<KampyCake>   Marida, do you use the Rosemary Watson method to make your tulips?
<Marida1>   Earlene, I bought the whole set and I think I should have just bought the sizes I need.  I didn't understand how they worked at first.
[CarolAnnTX]   Marida, I have to make a bunch of black tulips for a march wedding cake
<earleneTX>   Sorry Trish - They are so great
<KampyCake>   I'm afraid I would never get the rings back
<earleneTX>   YES, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE BUT I NOW HAVE FOUR SETS OF THEM AND USE THEM ALL THE TIME.   IN A THREE TIERED 16, 12 AND 8 INCH CAKE YOU WOULD NEED TWO OF THOSE RINGS.
<Dolores7>   the all-in-one tulip? Nick Lodge shows that and it doesn't take too long at all
<earleneTX>   A 12 INCH AND A 6 INCH RING WITH THE LEGS SHORTER THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE CAKE.  IF YOUR CAKE MEASURES 4 1/4 INCHES TALL WITH ALL THE FILLINGS THEN YOU WOULD NEED A 4 INCH LEG THAT YOU CAN ADJUST A LITTLE LONGER BY SIMPLY UNSCREWING THE LEGS TO THE HEIGHT NEEDED.
<earleneTX>   YOU WANT THE RING TO BE SLIGHTLY EMBEDDED INTO THE TOP OF THE ICING.  NOT PUSHED DOWN IN THE ICING BUT JUST SLIGHTLY IMPRINTED INTO THE TOP ICING.  I TRIED LEAVING THEM ABOUT 1/8 INCH ABOVE THE TOP ICING AND THAT ALLOWS TO MUCH WIGGLE IN THE CAKE DURING DELIVERY.  SO YOU REALLY WANT THAT RING RIGHT DOWN ON THAT LOWER CAKES ICING.
<Marida1>   I never saw her method.  I haven't made them before so i am using Wilton's from their GP booklet.  Is there a better way?
<Dolores7>   Kampy...charge for them then replace if they don't return them/..
<Dolores7>   better still, put the price beside each and give them a list
<earleneTX>   IN THE ONE LAYER PKG CAKE I HAVE USED TWO INCH LEGS,  IN THE GREEK COLUMN CAKES I HAVE USED THREE 6 INCH RINGS WITH 3 1/2 INCH LEGS,   IN A VERY LARGE PKG CAKE I HAVE USED TWO 6 INCH RINGS IN THE BASE CAKE WITH THE NEXT CAKE STACKED ON TOP OF THOSE RINGS.
<earleneTX>   I DON¹T USE THE PLEXIGLASS PLATES WITH THESE RINGS.  I DO USE THE CARDBOARDS COVERED ON BOTH SIDES WITH CONTACT PAPER AND THIS HAS BEEN TOTALLY RELIABLE AND STURDY.
<KampyCake>   I bought one of her videos and she shows how she makes tulips - I've not done it yet.  There are molds to put the petals in and plastic things to let them dry in
<earleneTX>   SO IN THE GRAY GREEK COLUMN CAKE (1) I HAVE A PUFF BASE, (2)A PLASTIC PLATE WITH THE LEG HOLES UNDERNEATH  EMBEDDED DOWN INTO THE STYROFOAM.  THE PLATE NEEDS TO COVER THE TOP ELASTIC ON THE PUFF BASE - I DON¹T WANT THAT TO SHOW.  THEN ICING CAN BE PIPED RIGHT ON THE FABRIC.  (3) A CARDBOARD COVERED ON ONE SIDE WITH CONTACT PAPER TO FIT UNDER THE 15² CAKE ON THE BOTTOM.  CUT THE CARDBOARD DOWN 1/ 4 INCH SMALLER THAN THE 15 INCHES.  COVER ON O
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<Dunkccc>   Earlene, what kind of luck are you having getting your rings back?  Are you charging a full fee for replacement?
<earleneTX>   SIDE ONLY  (4) THE 15 AND 12 INCH CAKES STACKED AND CARVED.  (5) A SIX INCH RING WITH FOUR LEGS.  (6) 7 3/4 INCH CARDBOARD COVERED ON BOTH SIDES WITH CONTACT PAPER,  (7) TWO LAYER 8 INCH CAKES.  REPEAT STEPS 6 AND 7 UNTIL THE CAKE HEIGHT NEEDED IS REACHED.   THIS CAKE HAS THREE 6 INCH RINGS SUPPORTING THE COLUMN.   BOTTLES,  CANS AND ETC WOULD NEED THIS SAME TYPE OF SUPPORT SET UP.
<Dolores7>   Marida...Nick has a cutter, cuts all petals at once and you just fold them all up into the tulip
<earleneTX>   Dunkccc - I have had no trouble getting them back - not one leg lost or one ring missing for the whole summer
<KampyCake>   wow!  that Nick cutter would be great
<earleneTX>   I ALSO USED THESE IN THE BASKETBALL CAKE IN JUNE AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IT DID NOT CRACK ON ME WHEN I WAS DELIVERING IT.  WE EVEN HAD TO DRIVE 150 MILES WITH THAT CAKE - AND NOT ONE LITTLE CRACK IN THAT BALL.  WOW - I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED IN HOW STURDY THESE SUPPORTS REALLY ARE.
[CarolAnnTX]   I need to find out how to make them tulips too maybe if I sweet talk Carolyn will show me!!
<earleneTX>   I KNOW THEY ARE EXPENSIVE - TO COVER THAT I DOUBLED MY DEPOSIT AND HAVE ALSO PRINTED A RETURN LIST WITH PICTURES OF ALL THE COMPONENTS    I NOW JUST PUT THE NUMBER IN ON HOW MANY LEGS, HOW MANY PLATES AND ETC FOR THEM TO RETURN.  THEY CAN SEE BY THE PICTURE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND NO MORE EXPLAINING WHAT I WANT BACK.
<Dolores7>   Kampy...pink and looks like a flower
<Dunkccc>   Wow, some ladies in our cake club had people throw away the metal rings (something different--a one piece thing).
<ReneeS>   there was a lady in a vendor 's booth making a rose with one cutter and just folding up the petals
<earleneTX>   I HAVEN¹T LOST ANY OF THE RINGS OR LEGS.  THEY BRING THEM BACK ALL ATTACHED TOGETHER.  WITH A LARGE DEPOSIT IN MY HANDS THEY RETURN THEM TO ME QUICKLY.   $200 MINIMUM IS NOW THE DEPOSIT I REQUIRE.
<earleneTX>   NOW ANY QUESTIONS ON THE USE OF THESE STRESS FREE SUPPORT SYSTEMS
<Marida1>   Renee--when did you ever see all of that?
<Dolores7>   Renee,,,I didn't see her. I don't know if this is on Nick's video
<Dolores7>   when you were lost Marida LOL
<earleneTX>   I was always having people loose the plates and legs before - using these and the cardboards covered with contact paper I haven't lost one
<KampyCake>   does Nick's cutter come with instructions?
<TrishCA>   I think you covered it all..thank Earlene
<ReneeS>   she was a lady from England, i forget the stand
<ReneeS>   that's right Delores, Marida gave me free time while she was lost!
<KampyCake>   Yes, thank you Earlene.
<Marida1>   I got lost in my doctor's parking lot Thursday.  Can you believe that?
<Dolores7>   One suggestion is to visit your site Earlene and see these at work. Easier with pictures I think
<SandyKS>   LOL Marida
<Dolores7>   LOL Marida
<Dolores7>   Marida has to be a country girl
<KampyCake>   yes Marida, I can never remember where I park at the grocery store and even forget which vehicle I drove.
<earleneTX>   MMMMMMMM  Marida did you loose something at ICES - like your memory   LOL
<Marida1>   Renee, was that Pat Trukfeld?  I have her stuff to make tulips.  Maybe I will give that a try.
<Dolores7>   Kampy...I don't think so but I have the instructions...uhhhmmmm somewere...from his class
<Dolores7>   Marida always gets lost...but it isn't her age I understand she always did
<KampyCake>   I wish I could make a rose with one cut and fold it all up!
<Dunkccc>   What did you think of convention--I was a bit disappointed.  I think the last two years were better.
<earleneTX>   THe five petal cutters for roses are great - I love JEM cutters - inexpensive and cut deeper into the center.  They are fabulous for making quick roses
<Marida1>   Earlene, I am always lost.  if I had of had a cell phone I would have called Renee from within the building to come get me.
<Dolores7>   Kampy...I can do that one...isn't too hard
<LynneCA1>   finally caught up and the conversation:)  have been running between the bbq grill outside, kitchen and here:)
<Dolores7>   These ones Nick used are JEM I think
<TrishCA>   Carol Webb share a great idea with us, about placing a printed list of items to be returned and the replacement cost of each item, take this list and tape in on the table before placing the cake on top. When the cake cutting and serving is done the server is bond to find this list when cleaning up and make the effert to find any missing pieces on your list when they see the replace charge will be.
<SandyKS>   Will you be bringing them along to the gumpaste class in Omaha, Earlene?
<LynneCA1>   glad to see so many needing to make tulips;  i have to make some in a couple of wks too
<earleneTX>   Lynne is getting her physical and mental excersize to night
<KampyCake>   I need to take some classes! LOL
<LynneCA1>   someone please put some instructions on the board for us to follow
<Dolores7>   Trish...I always did that...you really need to
[CarolAnnTX]   I get lost when I deliver flowers to people in the hospital especially if the hospital is big, I always end up going out the wrong door and having to run aroud a long block to catch up with my driver!!!
<Dolores7>   Kampy...take Nick Lodges! Its the best. Earlene is your class full???
<MarissaT>   is the sunflower cutter/veiner made by JEM, FMM or PME?
<ReneeS>   marida, it wasn't Pat trunkfield
<Marida1>   Maybe we could have a tulip making party.  You're all invited!
<earleneTX>   Trish I took pictures of all the components I use in my cakes in setting them up - put them on a half sheet of paper and leave that with the cake.  Now they can see what they need to return
<KampyCake>   My health dept guy told me I need to install a new sewer system if I wan to remain state inspected.
<ReneeS>   it was Jem cutters where I saw the rose being done with almost one cut
<SandyKS>   I hope Earlene's class isnt' full yet. I'm sending in my money tomorrow  for it.
<KampyCake>   OK Marida, I'll fly right over!
<earleneTX>   I think I have a couple of places left because of a couple of cancellations
<Dolores7>   oh my Kampy!... a grease trap thing maybe?
<Dunkccc>   Well gotta' go--it's late.
<Marida1>   Renee, have you made tulips?  you could come over.
<KampyCake>   JoEllen said there is always room for one more.
<earleneTX>   Get it in SandyKS - there is room right now.  Remember Rosemary will be teaching on Thursday and Friday before the DOS
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<earleneTX>   All the info is on my web site.
<Dolores7>   That class was the best and the most fun of any class I've ever taken...and WELL worth the money
<KampyCake>   No Dolores, they want me to have a lagoon dug - don't know what it will cost.  They say the septic tank is outdated.
[CarolAnnTX]   That sounds like fun Marida we'll all have tulips coming out of our ears!!
<ReneeS>   never made tulips marida
<SandyKS>   Earlene, do you use corn husks for veining in any of your gumpaste flowers?
<ReneeS>   add that to our list when we get together with Robin W. marida
<earleneTX>   Kampy - how can they do that to you
<Dolores7>   sounds complicated
<Dolores7>   Sandy...love that for daisies
<LynneCA1>   marida, how hard has it been to work w/those wilton gp instructions for tulips?
<Marida1>   Better be soon.  I need them in Sept.
<LynneCA1>   i figured that's what i would do
<KampyCake>   They think the sewer might back up into the basement drains.  It never has before.
<ReneeS>   do you vein with the cornhusk before cutting or after?
<earleneTX>   Occassionally Sandy
<SandyKS>   I have a whole field of corn. Do you use dried one, or take the green husks and soak in glygerine water to make them softer?
<KampyCake>   I'm going to see what it will cost
<Marida1>   Not hard, Lynne.  I am having a problem with the color.  She wants a deep burgandy and when I add coloring to it the GP gets too soft.
<earleneTX>   After
<Dolores7>   after cutting...and smoothing the edges
<earleneTX>   You want them dried and firm
<Dolores7>   yes...dry ones...they last for years too
<Dolores7>   Marida...dust it that color!
<LynneCA1>   i need to do that cake in the 200 yrbk -- 2 stacked tiers - 10 and 6
<ReneeS>   do you roll the cornhusk over your petal?
<Marida1>   The burgandy dust looks awful dark to me.  Can I lighten it up?
<KampyCake>   Have they ever made burgundy airbrush color?  If so that would work
<Dolores7>   I hope I got the lof\g...I tried Perch and not sure
<SandyKS>   I can bring some along to Omaha if any one wants some corn husks straight from the Land of Oz!!  :O)
<ReneeS>   what page Lynne?
<Dolores7>   Burgundy...I mix 2 colors until its right
<KampyCake>   LOL Sandy - me too - got tons of corn
<earleneTX>   Put the corhusk down on the table.  lay the petal on top and gently press with a soft thin sponge to imprint the veining
<Marida1>   How can I make burgandy airbrush colors?
<KampyCake>   I need to get a 2001 yearbook
<Dolores7>   red and blue
<ReneeS>   thanks earlene for that corn husking tip
<Dolores7>   its good Kampy
<Marida1>   Two colors of what Dolores.  I am on a roll here, help me out!!
<LynneCA1>   pg 34 renee
<earleneTX>   The tamale plant is right down the road - so when I need new ones I just go by there and ask.
<Dolores7>   airbrush colors
<helen_oh>   we had burgundy airbrush in the bakery
<SandyKS>   Our walmart doesn't have the 2001 books yet. they still have 8 of the 2000 books on the shelf
<KampyCake>   I love tamales
<Dolores7>   I don't know that we DON'T sell that Helen
<Marida1>   Okay, Helen, send it right up!!
<Dolores7>   I noticed that too Sandy
<earleneTX>   Pedro's hot and fresh right out of the factory can't be beat.  Yummmm
<Dolores7>   Since Helen says it is available we probably have it and I don't know it
<helen_oh>   it is a good color toodolores can get it
<Dolores7>   I better go...got to get my taxes finished tomorrow...
<Dolores7>   thanks Helen
<TrishCA>   have fun, night Dolores
<Marida1>   I was in our cake store today and she didn't have burgandy.  I'll try mixing a couple of airbrush colors.
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<BamaBaker>   Night Dolores
<earleneTX>   By Dee - sorry I was late -
<helen_oh>   nite dolores
<ReneeS>   does navy blue come in airbrush, i have some sweet peas to do
<KampyCake>   I'm glad there is burgundy airbrush color - it's difficult to mix for me
[CarolAnnTX]   Earlene would you like the  Texas Squares set up at the dos,?
<earleneTX>   navy blue sweet peas?
[CarolAnnTX]   Nite Dee.
<SandyKS>   What would happen if you used burgendy powder when you mix up the gumpaste, Marida?
<ReneeS>   yes, a bride requested it, yuck
<Marida1>   I think I have navy blue, Renee.  Did you get your airbrush yet?  Let's have an airbrush party, Renee.
<earleneTX>   It depends on how many we have register Carol Ann - that takes a big table.
<ReneeS>   i didn't get any of the stuff i ordered there yet Marida, i'd love too, add that to our list with Robin
<KampyCake>   navy blue sweetpeas.  now I've heard everything
<earleneTX>   By the way I got a great picture of the whole thing
[CarolAnnTX]   Only two tables
<ReneeS>   i know, and on top of the cake she is putting a snow globe music box, heavier than anything!
<KampyCake>   I have nver played with my new Aztek airbrush.  Keep forgetting I have it.  Need about 2 months vacation
<Marida1>   I am going to try mixing the powder to see if the color will be right.  We got a good lesson on colors at the Convention.  He gave us a color wheel.  but my husband, the Cake Police, is real good with airbrushing and colors.
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<earleneTX>   That is as bad as eggplant colored calla lillies
<KampyCake>   Sandy did you get my email?
<Dolores7>   Bummer! My log on Perch didn't work...anyone else have it please???
<Marida1>   Hey, Dolors, finished those taxes, already?
<earleneTX>   Me to Kampy - at least a month with no one calling - no email questions - and at least sleep for the first week
<SandyKS>   Yes, I did, Marie. Thanks for the information.
[CarolAnnTX]   Hi Dee, your back
<KampyCake>   oh lordy!
<helen_oh>   I'll check on the name  of the color tomorrow marida
<Dolores7>   LOL...don't I JUST wish!
<TrishCA>   sleeping for a wekk sounds SOoooooooooo good!!!!!!!!
<KampyCake>   I went to bed at 9pm last night and got up at 8am this morning.  I was beat!  I felt good today .
<Dolores7>   Carol...did you log the chat?
<BamaBaker>   Sleep??  What's that?
[CarolAnnTX]   Yes, I'll have David send it to you
<Dolores7>   makes me sleepy to do taxes
<earleneTX>   I don't think I will every get caught up on my sleep from the last month.  I had about two weeks with only four hours a night.  I am still sleep deprived
<Marida1>   I felt so good yesterday it scared me.  71 you know.
<KampyCake>   I took a sample of all our peppers to the new restaurant today and they gave me a huge standing order!
<TrishCA>   lol...Bamabaker that the special time we all have to think about how in the world we're suppose to get all these cakes done in the morning...lol
<Dolores7>   THANKS...a BIG thanks Carol....night all
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<earleneTX>   Peppers Kampy - you have them year around?
[CarolAnnTX]   If I try who knows what you would get,Got it
<SandyKS>   Kampy's got an oven I want to buy from her.  Anyone got a good list of reasons my husband should let me buy it.  :o)
<KampyCake>   gonna try to earlene - we're builing a greenhouse
<SandyKS>   He's tight and hates to part with money.  LOL
<earleneTX>   you need it Sandy - reson enough
<KampyCake>   we're planting a lot of salad mix now
<Marida1>   Okay, girls, I gotta go turn out some cakes.  Email me my tulips when you get a chance!
<tiG1>   nite Marida
<TrishCA>   night Marida
<BamaBaker>   Night Marida
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<helen_oh>   nite marida
<SandyKS>   Kampy, tells me she forgot to plant cukes this summer.  What a wastee.
<KampyCake>   Did you tell him I will even deliver it in the truck and I'll even throw in some hot peppers.
<tiG1>   MIndy, if that picture is too small, let me know, I can make it a little bigger, beautiful cake
<earleneTX>   My husband has a small green house - he put a hot water heater in there and ran pipes under the ground to keep the ground warm in freezing cold weather
<MindyMac>   Sandy,  you could of had that oven from the school, but it's gone now
<SandyKS>   The peppers won't sell him at all Kampy.
<LynneCA1>   sandy, only one reason will help convience him:  w/give you more time to spend w/him!
<MindyMac>   why thanks tig1,  no that's a perfect size
<KampyCake>   well, ok Sandy, I'll have to think of someting else
<tiG1>   k
<earleneTX>   Good reason Lynne
<TrishCA>   Well SAndy let me know what works for you...I need to work on my hubby too.....I've already tried the "I really need one appoarch"...time for flattery I guess...lol
<helen_oh>   gotta go too nite all
<SandyKS>   I like that reason, Lynne.
<SandyKS>   Mindy,. that oven didn't sound like it was very reliable.
<KampyCake>   I baked a lot of wedding cakes in that oven
<MindyMac>   Dolores is just going to have to delete all the rest of the posts.  :-)
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<KampyCake>   and lots easier to do thanksgiving with that oven
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<tiG1>   nite helen
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<LynneCA1>   well i could have been more blunt :) hehehehe
<SandyKS>   LOL Lynne
[CarolAnnTX]   Soon as we finish he'll send it to ya Dee.
<MindyMac>   it worked at the school fine.  You just had to check to make sure the pilot lights were lit
<MarissaT>   got to go. g'night.
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<LynneCA1>   i see we lost a few :(
<SandyKS>   I would definately have more energy in the evenings...if you get my drift.
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<pwdsugar>   Well that was interesting
<MindyMac>   hehehe Sandy
<LynneCA1>   yep sandy, that's what i ment :)
<KampyCake>   Hee hee SAndy
<pwdsugar>   I had three ovens I was baking in.  A double oven stove and another large oven in the house.  I can bake more than all three of those in one oven load now.
<SandyKS>   My husband would definately not complain. That may be the best selling point yet.  :o)
<KampyCake>   Mindy, do you want to go to MO DOS in Kansas City?
<LynneCA1>   trish, have any free time say fri?
<KampyCake>   what a bargain!
<MindyMac>   no, too far and I'm too poor.  LOL
<pwdsugar>   BRB
<BamaBaker>   I couldn't live without my convection oven
<KampyCake>   I'm anxious to get the new ovens hooked up.  I'm hoping what takes me three days will take 3 hours
<LynneCA1>   i'm soooo glad i hung on to my convec oven too
<MindyMac>   you got new ovens Marie?
<MindyMac>   oh that's right. You bought them at an auction didn't you?
<SandyKS>   My dad is selling out his locker business next week. I'm think of getting a cart that holds 6 meat trays.  Was thinking it would make a great cooling rack. What do you all think?
<KampyCake>   Yes, I got a double-decker gas convection oven at an auction in Pattonsburg.  It's a Franklin - well there are two of them
<LynneCA1>   go for it sandy!
<pwdsugar>   Sounds like it would work SandyKS
<KampyCake>   that's sounds like a good idea Sandy
<MindyMac>   I think it would be great Sandy
<MindyMac>   does it have the racks on it
<KampyCake>   might be a good delivery cart
<SandyKS>   my problem is my space.... what do I get rid of, my husband or kids for the carts and oven./
<KampyCake>   My new ovens - the bottom one is on wheels and both of them have 5 racks
<BamaBaker>   hmmm....is there a difference between husband and kids?  My husband acts like a kid most days...*s*
<MindyMac>   did you get your floor done yet Marie?
<SandyKS>   the carts are too big for delivery, the trays are removable. They were for quick freezing the meat packages before they were packe in lockers.
<MindyMac>   I think they all do Bama.  :-)
<SandyKS>   Dad, said he'd save me a cart. Now I need the oven and a bigger house.
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<KampyCake>   no, don't have the floor done - the mixer repair set me back and now, the sewer deal.  I'm getting discouraged
<TrishCA>   okay I'm back, I think :)
<LynneCA1>   wb trish
<TrishCA>   thanks :)
<KampyCake>   Sandy, surely you can get rid of something besides the kids or hubby
<MindyMac>   Marie,  a cheap way to get the floor done would be just to paint it.
<LynneCA1>   do you see us?
<TrishCA>   I see ya :)
<SandyKS>   Kampy, keep your chin up. The mixer will last another 50 years and the new sewer will increase your property value.
<MindyMac>   we use to paint the cement floors at the school all the time
<LynneCA1>   will you be free for a mtg maybe fri?
<SandyKS>   Got three chickens but they don't take up much space.
<pwdsugar>   Kampy we have septic tanks here - I don't know why you would have to replace them unless they are causing you a problem or you are having a contamination problem
<KampyCake>   that's the trouble with painting the floors - have to keep doing it don't you?
<TrishCA>   me?
<MindyMac>   yes, eventually you would.
<KampyCake>   Well, the one we have isn't working right.  I'm thinking maybe if we just pu mp it out, it might help
<MindyMac>   how did the inspector find out it wasn't workiing right?
<KampyCake>   I see you Lynne
<LynneCA1>   yes trish.  when can we get together???
<tiG1>   earlene, did you have to have a bigger septic tank when you first started legal?
<KampyCake>   the smell.
<MindyMac>   oh noo.
<TrishCA>   Friday would work for me....maybe we can get tpgther with Paige also
<pwdsugar>   You may need a new drainage field or leech lines and get it pumped out
<KampyCake>   the wind was in the west and all this time I thought it was the sheep, but it's the septic tank
<pwdsugar>   Nope
<LynneCA1>   you haven't had it pumped yet?  do that 1st
<MindyMac>   there are companies that clean out the septic tanks.
<SandyKS>   Kampy, tell the inspector that the fertilizer for your organic garden that he/she's smelling.
<KampyCake>   yes, they come pump it out
<MindyMac>   LOL
<KampyCake>   OH NO!  YUCK!
<BamaBaker>   Kampy, here it only costs about $150 to have the septic tank pumped.   That's much cheaper than a new system
<pwdsugar>   If the leech lines get to full of yuck then you need to have that redone.
<KampyCake>   We don't put garden near the septic.  He thinks a lagoon would be better
<pwdsugar>   sure is Bama.
<LynneCA1>   please, let's get that arranged.  i'll be busy next wk so fri is about the only time i have for awhile.
<tiG1>   I'm glad y'all are talking about this, it was a non-selling point to DH on letting me go legal
<LynneCA1>   seems i don't have any time now that i'm teaching at michael';s
<pwdsugar>   You can tell where our leech lines are - the grass is much greener in those areas.
<KampyCake>   well, I think I'll try that first
<MindyMac>   the drainage field should work fine.  You're up on a hill there
<pwdsugar>   We have two septic tanks - one in the back of the house and one in the front
<TrishCA>   Friday it is.....I'll email her and see about getting together
<MindyMac>   You have septic tanks too tig?
<BamaBaker>   pwdsugar...know what you mean...this year our yard was brown, except where those two line are....green
<KampyCake>   I need to find where the clean-out is.  It has been here 32 years so probably is due for a cleaning
<pwdsugar>   Want to hear a scary story about septic tank
<MindyMac>   has it backed up into the house?
<KampyCake>   yes I want to hear
<tiG1>   yes, I live in the country:)
<KampyCake>   no, never has backed up
<KampyCake>   me too tig
<MindyMac>   Where at tig?  I'm in Missouri
<tiG1>   west middle GA
<TrishCA>   Yes i've read that ....by the way i recall when I took my classes at Michael's we always had a crowded room full of stock that needed marking or putting away...our instructor hated it but her hands seemed tied...didn't want to stir the soup to often
<pwdsugar>   I was working in the large flower bed.  Weeding diging and etc.  The next day my helper Amy carried the trash.  She can back in the house and asked what the huge hole was in front of the house
<pwdsugar>   I asked her what hole?????
<LynneCA1>   o.k. trish.  i'll be up there early -- about 9 a.m.  drop terry in tulare before 8 and go straight up there.
<LynneCA1>   unless you want supplies; or we can go there later
<KampyCake>   uh oh,
<pwdsugar>   The septic tank had caved in - right where I had been standing the day before - competely destroyed that flower bed.  That is when you have to replace the Septic tank Kampy
<KampyCake>   I'm feeling creepy already . . .
<TrishCA>   Okay Lynne,,,I'll let you know on supplies, do you need anything?
<KampyCake>   wow!  That would be awful!
<MindyMac>   oh yuck.  I bet you were counting your lucky stars.
<pwdsugar>   I was grateful I hadn't fallen in that thing.  YUCK
<TrishCA>   lucky stars is right...wow
<LynneCA1>   yah.  have to look up what;  maybe paige could use some too
<pwdsugar>   We couldn't believe it.
<MindyMac>   Can you imagine falling into a septic tank.  YIkes!!!
<KampyCake>   WEll, we'll have to do something.  I checked on rents in town.  They want $500. a month for a shack
<KampyCake>   they're concrete - same thing as burial vaults
<TrishCA>   I don't want to even think about falling into a septic tank , thank you...lol
<LynneCA1>   weird story on septics:  in our paper this wknd
<SandyKS>   Stay at home and fix the tank or put in a lagoon. you don't want to go to town Kampy
<LynneCA1>   someone was soaking their dentures and old lady mom threw it in the toilet & flushed
<KampyCake>   I know!  Sandy.  I couldn't do my organic veggies and cakes both in town
<pwdsugar>   Your pipes may not be vented right Kampy.  Have you checked that.
<LynneCA1>   they called for pump out.  didn't find; they had to pump all gunk into tank then strain it out at dump to find them
[CarolAnnTX]   All kinds of strange things happening tonight, the screen just flashed in front of me!!
<KampyCake>   pipes are fine - the icky stuff is oozing to the surface out by the tank
<tiG1>   oh, who would want those teeth back?????????
<SandyKS>   who would want to put those dentures back in their mouth.  YUCK
<KampyCake>   I would have said goodbye to those dentures!
<pwdsugar>   If it is an old house you might just need a new venting pipe.
<MindyMac>   oh yuck,  I wouldn't want them back
<BamaBaker>   Kampy...the lid to your tank may be cracked...had a friend with that prob
<TrishCA>   who in their right mind would want them back....I'd just buy a new pair
<BamaBaker>   CarolAnn.....life flashing before your eyes???
<LynneCA1>   she said she could not afford to get new ones -- they were new.  so she would soak them in bleach before using!
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<TrishCA>   OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<KampyCake>   CarolAnn, that's your angels
<LynneCA1>   prolly time for a new moniter carolann
<pwdsugar>   Ohhhhh  -  you definely have a problem Kampy
[CarolAnnTX]   Yea, right and some nut thinks they have to send messages I just press them out
<LynneCA1>   i have that problem now and then
<KampyCake>   the house is about 32 years old and the pipes are fine.  I think I'll call the septic tank guy to come look at it
<pwdsugar>   Sounds like a good place to start Kampy
<pwdsugar>   Carol Ann send me your email address and I will try to send you the picture of the whole quilt.
<BamaBaker>   Kampy...maybe you have a nice inspector who isn't bent on that lagoon
<KampyCake>   I spent $660. to repair the old 20 quart
[CarolAnnTX]   WOW<Angels!!
<TrishCA>   lol....Now I can tell hubby all I learned tonight about sewer tanks and dentures....lol
<MindyMac>   LOL,
<KampyCake>   well, Missouri is pushing lagoons now - they say they're more sanitary than the septics
<LynneCA1>   oh trish lol!!
<MindyMac>   he'll think you're nuts Trish.  LOL
<TrishCA>   I'll gross him out untill he buys me that oven...lol
<LynneCA1>   he already knows we all are!
<KampyCake>   the people on the sewer chat are probably talking about cakes
<MindyMac>   I don't think lagoons are more sanitary.
<SandyKS>   Thanks for all the great ideas guys, got to go. my daughter wants to check her e-mail and chat with her friends. What a great bunch.  :o)  I like the idea of having more time for him than grossing him out to get an oven, Trish.  :o)  goodnite
<KampyCake>   Well, me neither - they're nasty pools of filth and scum.
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[CarolAnnTX]   You got a good picture great, its carolatx@texas.net
<KampyCake>   by Sandy
<MindyMac>   I think septic tanks with the drainage fields are better.  That way the stuff is strained through the gravel and sandy before it goes out into the field
<pwdsugar>   But necessary for those of us who live in the country
<TrishCA>   Thats a scarey thought....a sewer chat group...lol
<LynneCA1>   sure are kampy.  let's hope you can get it pumped o.k.
<MindyMac>   LOL,  trish.
<KampyCake>   or a denture chat group
<KampyCake>   I could join them
<MindyMac>   There might already be one.  It's probably got a bunch of plumbers in it though
<KampyCake>   plumbers and back hoe operators
<BamaBaker>   Being from the country...I've seen things much more disgusting than a sewer!  But I wouldn't live anywhere else
<TrishCA>   I had to call the plumber out last week....now thats one weird bunch
<KampyCake>   and pipe fitters
<pwdsugar>   Thanks Carol ann - now I have you in my address book
[CarolAnnTX]   I'm still on cloud over the crazy quilt!!
[CarolAnnTX]   Welcome
<KampyCake>   plumbers always have pants that come down in back when they squat down and you can see their c _ _ _ _
<TrishCA>   crazy quilt?
<pwdsugar>   Hey I live with a plumber - he has some pretty neat skils
<KampyCake>   quilt?
<tiG1>   gotta go girls, this was fun:)
<BamaBaker>   night tiG
<TrishCA>   nite tig1
<LynneCA1>   nite
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<KampyCake>   well, pwd, there are always exceptions to the rule.  LOL
<pwdsugar>   Right Kampy - that is why my hubby wears coveralls now - he lost them one day - years ago
<LynneCA1>   oh, oh when he was young and good looking?  :)
<pwdsugar>   Carol Ann - you had a great idea - it really looked great.
<KampyCake>   oh no!  how did he lose them?
<MindyMac>   LOL,  I have a couple of brothers that have that problem but they aren't plumbers.
<pwdsugar>   Right   LOL
[CarolAnnTX]   Thanks, I had a lot of fun doing it.
<pwdsugar>   No butt - and he stood up and they sat down   LOL
<KampyCake>   what is the quilt?
<TrishCA>   thats what I want to know also?
<pwdsugar>   I'll put it on my site Kampy as soon as I get some time to update
<KampyCake>   oh my!  that could have been very interesting
<LynneCA1>   jean, you actually here?  you have been soooooooo quite!
<KampyCake>   ok
<KampyCake>   I'm looking forward to attending your bow class in Omaha Pwd
<pwdsugar>   Texas decorators did six inch squares covered with fondant and then we put 90 of them together at ICES to form a big quilt done out of sugar.  Carol Ann had the idea and it worked really neat
[CarolAnnTX]   100
<KampyCake>   oh, that DOES sound beautiful
<MindyMac>   Wow,  I'd like to see a picture of that
<pwdsugar>   Great Kampy - guess I better get some class notes done for that one.
<TrishCA>   I just got rid of my in-laws from Ohaha.....interesting things come from there...lol
<KampyCake>   :-)  it's ok if you play it by ear pwd
<pwdsugar>   I counted them Carol Ann and it was 10 accross and 9 down - of course I could have miss counted
<pwdsugar>   I have some things in my head that I haven't had time to play with and want to try before that class.
<KampyCake>   I need to get one of those cutters they were talking about - the one you can adjust and cut out fondant so it's uniform
[CarolAnnTX]   I'll hace to count again
<pwdsugar>   I should have it on my site by next Monday night.
<pwdsugar>   Just one small wedding this weekend.
<KampyCake>   Oh NO Trush!  h ow long did they visit you?
<MindyMac>   I went to a demo last year, it was Virginia's I think and she had one of those cutters  Marie
[CarolAnnTX]   I thought we counted 11 acrossed and 9 down, sorry
<KampyCake>   I've got three just about every weekend  and it makes me tired to think about it
[CarolAnnTX]   and one at the top
<MindyMac>   I wish I could come and help you Marie
<KampyCake>   Virginia's got everything Mindy.  By the way, she came through her hernia surgery just fine.
<KampyCake>   Me too Mindy
<MindyMac>   That's great
<pwdsugar>   Bless your heart - my cakes are slowing down now - and that is OK for me for a little while
[CarolAnnTX]     It was real nice
<TrishCA>   for 7 long, smoke filled days...thats 21 meals, approx 20 bath towels, 12 loads of laundry and countless hours of small talk....but I made it out in tack...wish I could say the same for my house...lol
<pwdsugar>   Virginia ?  Surgery?
<KampyCake>   Going to KC with a cake every weekend will soon come to an end
<MindyMac>   It will,  are you still having problems Marie
<KampyCake>   Trush are you a non-smoker and they smoked in your house?
<pwdsugar>   Is that Virginia Sears?
<KampyCake>   no, but the place is letting people bring their own cakes in now.  She was tired of fooling with the brides on the cakes.
<TrishCA>   yup....two heavy smokers.....thought it was funny the way it rubbed me wrong....thats family for you
<MindyMac>   You should of put up a no smoking sign.  that's what my sister did,  in her car and her house.
<pwdsugar>   She didn't say anything to me at convention.
<KampyCake>   yes, Virginia SEars
[CarolAnnTX]   I have a four tier cake for Oct, and the want all sorts of fall and winter signs on it, for Oct though Nov birthdays for some family reunion
<KampyCake>   I guess she went in right after she got back.  Jackie Ornes told me about it
<pwdsugar>   That girl.  I will have to email her or phone her    She is such a neat person - I just love being around her
<BamaBaker>   Time for me to leave, have laundry that refuses to wash itself!  Good Night everyone!
<KampyCake>   scorpio is the scorpion
<TrishCA>   nite bamabaker
<KampyCake>   Virginia is a nut.  She  &  I used to be in the same cake club
<MindyMac>   nite bama
<pwdsugar>   Hey but she is a real fun nut.
<KampyCake>   bye bama
<pwdsugar>   I love that gal
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<KampyCake>   Trish after I quit smoking a little over 2 years ago, nobody will smoke in my house and I don't even have to say anything.
<KampyCake>   I was afraid we were losing Va, but she rallied
[CarolAnnTX]   I have a Mary Ford book with a scorpion cut out cake might do one of thoseand what ever else goes with fall
<pwdsugar>   I was there at her house for the show in the spring - she was still having a little bit of a tough time then.  She looks great now.
<LynneCA1>   in what way kampy?  i know here from when i was state rep
<KampyCake>   I don't remember what October is
<MindyMac>   is she cancer free now Marie?
<pwdsugar>   Scorpio - my birthday
<TrishCA>   I was a smoker but even when I smoked, never in my house, car or near the kids....ever...but they didn't care and hubby wasn't opening his mouth...so I just gave up and cleaned
<LynneCA1>   carolann: always fall leaves, mums
<KampyCake>   Virginia had cancer of the bladder and I think perhaps her kidny.  I think it's gone, but she has to be checked frequently
<pwdsugar>   Is anyone ever cancer free completely after that big a scare?
<pwdsugar>   She had it real rough for a long time.
<KampyCake>   the smoke makes the walls yellow and the woodwork
<LynneCA1>   pumpkins, haystacks
<TrishCA>   It's always there , in the back for your mind I would think Earlene
[CarolAnnTX]   I'll put a picture of powdersugar on one of the tiers and its Davids birthday too
<pwdsugar>   Plus it makes you stink.
<KampyCake>   Virginia is Catholic and I tend to lean toward metaphysical and She and I have had many friendly arguments over that
<LynneCA1>   i would say it was a rough time
<pwdsugar>   I asked my brother in law one time why he used deodarant.
[CarolAnnTX]   WHY
<MindyMac>   LOL,  it's a good thing I quit smoking yesterday.
<KampyCake>   sometimes when a smoker comes near I think they stink and sometimes it smells really good to me and I want a cigarette
<TrishCA>   lol.....I'm telling you the stink is still in my house and they left a week ago
<KampyCake>   did you quit again Mindy?
<MindyMac>   yes
<LynneCA1>   well gals think i need to clean up the supper dishes.
<pwdsugar>   He said to keep from smelling bad.  So then I asked him why in the world he smoked because that made him smell bad.
[CarolAnnTX]   Mums sounds good
<KampyCake>   LOL pwd
<KampyCake>   MIndy are you using Zyban this time?
<MindyMac>   yes,  and patches
<KampyCake>   you'll make it this time.  Just remember all you have to do to quit smoking is never light upanother
<pwdsugar>   Now he doesn't smoke anymore and he knows what I meant
<LynneCA1>   trish, keep me posted on fri.  otherwise i'll see you early
<TrishCA>   night Lynne...I'll let you know about paige..but we'll see you on Friday
<KampyCake>   you know, I had no idea when I smoked how awful I smelled and the bad breath
<MindyMac>   yes,  I'm going to make it this time.
<pwdsugar>   Not being mean - just trying to let him know how it felt to be near him
<LynneCA1>   nite now.
<KampyCake>   just think of all the extra money you'll have
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<KampyCake>   bye lynne
<pwdsugar>   Good luck MindyMac - It is really rotten how they intentionally made those cigerattes so addictive.
<MindyMac>   yes,  the kids tell me all the time how much money I'd save.  LOL
<TrishCA>   I really hated that week...there I said it!!!!!!!!!   GOSH THAT FELT REALLY GOOD TO GET THAT OFF MY BACK!!!!!!!!!
<KampyCake>   I hear the cigs are going to go up again - to almost $5.00 per pack
<MindyMac>   thanks Earlene.
<TrishCA>   ouch $5 per pack!!!!!!!  they'll still be smokers even at that cost
<MindyMac>   Goodness sakes.  $5 a pack.
<KampyCake>   house guests who stay over 3 days just about drive me crazy no matter how much I love them
<MindyMac>   LOL Trish.
<pwdsugar>   My daughter feels the same way Trish when her mom in law comes.  She is a heavy smoker, wants to be waited on and doesn't spend any time with anyone but her son
<KampyCake>   there's a guy in town who goes through the ash trays in front of the grocery store picking out butts
[CarolAnnTX]   Lynne sure is colorful, isn't she!!!
<MindyMac>   that's disgusting
<pwdsugar>   No time for her grand children - just her son
<KampyCake>   lynne has forgotten more than I'll ever know about cake decorating
<pwdsugar>   Yuck Kampy - he is bound to be very sick
<KampyCake>   I guess it takes all kinds
<KampyCake>   crazy man.
<TrishCA>   LOL...Lynne is great and so sweat....we have a great time when we do get together
<KampyCake>   people buy cigarettes before food sometimes
<pwdsugar>   Well night folks - I think I'll see if I can catch up a little more on that sleep deprivation.
<KampyCake>   I'd like to meet lynne sometimes.  I hope she can come to Portland
<KampyCake>   good night pwd
<pwdsugar>   Lynne is so sweat -  LOL
<MindyMac>   nite Earlene
<pwdsugar>   Night gals.  You are all sweet.  see you next week
<TrishCA>   night Earlene..thanks for all the info on that support system...It's on my list of needs now :)
<KampyCake>   LOL
<KampyCake>   bye pwd
[CarolAnnTX]   nite Earlene
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<KampyCake>   where is jean?
<TrishCA>   Hopefully we'll make Portland...it's within driving range for us in Portland
<MindyMac>   I don't know.  She hasn't said anything for quite awhile
<KampyCake>   I'm going to Portland.  I'm already saving my money for it
<TrishCA>   we bored her to sleep and now poor Jean is napping by her monitor waiting for one of her sons to wake her
<TrishCA>   lol
<MindyMac>   Good for you Marie
<KampyCake>   I told hubby he could go if he wanted to
<KampyCake>   LOL trish
<KampyCake>   but he won't
<MindyMac>   Is he going to go.  Portland would be a good vacation for him
<KampyCake>   thank God!
<KampyCake>   hee hee
<KampyCake>   he would be all grumpy and in a hurry to go
<MindyMac>   LOL Marie
<MindyMac>   Sounds like my hubby.  I almost hate going anywhere with him anymore
<KampyCake>   I have to lay the law down before we go to class reunions - I tell him if you're going to bug me to leave, then just stay home
<TrishCA>   I'll start saving right after the holidays....if I started now i'd only have to raid the piggy come mid December...lol
<MindyMac>   or drive a separate car.  That's what I do
<KampyCake>   well, santa clause is going to be stingy around here this year.  I have to go to the Wilton class in March, then Portland in August
<Jean-sgr>   Hi, I'm back, I'm surprised your still here had company come in and they just left, I see someone was looking for me. LOL