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[20:00] <DebraW> Ladycakes where in NC are you from?
[20:00] <Dolores7> Ohhh...we have a dusting of snow
[20:00] <Dolores7> I'd love it Carol
[20:00] <LadyCakes> Sanford...near greensboro
[20:00] <CarolAnnTX> I bet it's nice and SNOWIE up there!
[20:00] <traciep> But it's coming again thursday Dolores. Worse this time.
[20:01] You are now known as ShirleyR
[20:01] <Dolores7> right...maybe I'll have to operate from home
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[20:01] <Dolores7> Hi Earlene!!!!
[20:01] <ShirleyR> hi Earlene
[20:01] <DebraW> I live in Johnston County, about 1 1/2 from you ladycakes
[20:01] <LadyCakes> Hi Earlene
[20:01] <Earlene> Hello Room Great to see all of you here.
[20:01] <helen_oh> we have 2 inches here dolores
[20:01] <ShirleyR> hi CarolAnnTX
[20:01] <LadyCakes> that is great Deb, come and see me
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[20:02] <Earlene> You guys must be talking about your cold and snow. It is
only 70 hear today. Hehehehehehe
[20:02] <LadyCakes> I live in Lee County Deb
[20:02] <ShirleyR> ut oh we lost Debra
[20:02] <CarolAnnTX> Hi Earlene, found that neat Instyle book, Hi, ShirleyR.
[20:02] <Dolores7> Yes Earlene...it snowed a little bit here
[20:02] <LadyCakes> it is 24 here now
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[20:03] <Dolores7> Don't forget - move forward & back sometimes with your server so you don't get booted
[20:03] <Earlene> That InStyle wedding mag had more cakes in it than any of
the other Wedding issues I have seen.
[20:03] <traciep> Earlene - go ahead and brag, but I'll be on the beach in Mexico in a couple of days.
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[20:03] <Dolores7> I couldn't find Instyle
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[20:03] <Dolores7> Hi Marida!!!! Nice to see you
[20:03] <ShirleyR> hi Marida
[20:03] <CarolAnnTX> It was 77 here HO>HO<HO>
[20:03] <Earlene> Ohhhhh Now we are talking warm
[20:03] <Marida> hello.
[20:03] <Earlene> It is a special wedding issue Dolores
[20:03] <LadyCakes> Hi Marida
[20:04] <Dolores7> 30 degrees is NOT warm to me!
[20:04] <Dolores7> I know...guess I have to go to the book store
[20:04] <LadyCakes> I love the little baby heads I ordered from you Earlene
[20:04] <Marida> It is snowing here.
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[20:04] <ShirleyR> hi ShirleyNV
[20:04] <Earlene> But at least you guys are getting some moisture. We are dry enough that they may have to prime us to spit.
[20:04] <Dolores7> Hi ShirleyNV
[20:04] <traciep> i got the pictures out of the Wedding book that had the cakes that matched the dressed. they were pretty neat.
[20:04] <Earlene> That little baby head mold is so sweet LadyCakes
[20:05] <MindyMc> now that's a Texan talking. :-)
[20:05] <traciep> oops, dresses
[20:05] <Dolores7> Oh its still very dry here too. Our well stinks like sulphur
[20:05] <LadyCakes> I have used the baby heads several times already
[20:05] <Earlene> I loved the first one that Colette had done.
[20:05] <CarolAnnTX> Mysister is snowed in Campbell, N. Y.,
[20:06] <Dolores7> Here we go gang!
[20:06] <Dolores7> Tuesday, January 18, 2000 - Topic: "CAKE 'DUMMIES" I thought, since there has been a lot of 'talk' about bridal shows, it might be a good time to talk about cake dummies.
[20:06] <Marida> Earlene - whenit is that that the lady doublebooked?
[20:06] <LadyCakes> We never ever get snow and my grandkids built a 10 ft snowman today
[20:06] <Earlene> I will put a picture of the flowers we did in the beginner GP class last week on next week. We did two flowers using those baby faces
[20:06] <CarolAnnTX> How did she get that one cake to sit at an angle, without tipping over?
[20:06] <Earlene> In September Marida
[20:06] <Dolores7> CAKE 'DUMMIES':
[20:07] <Earlene> I emailed her had suggested that she answer that one on the message board. I don't think she choose to do that
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[20:07] <ShirleyR> hi Laufay
[20:07] <Dolores7> Hi Laufay!
[20:08] <Dolores7> NOTE: cake dummies cost just as much or more - than does real cake...so if I need to make a cake bigger than the customer needs, I charge the same per serving and include the
dummies as if they were cakes. The decorating takes the time and it will take you every bit as long. We sell dummies in many sizes/shapes. I wrap mine in plastic wrap so I can reuse them. (I also
have a shrink-wrap machine, so I can smooth out the wrinkles in the plastic wrap). I think some people have done this with a hair dryer. Regardless, even if you merely stretch the plastic wrap
tightly around the dummy, it is easy to tear down when you need to. For display, ice with royal icing.
[20:08] <Laufay> Hi everybody!
[20:08] <Earlene> Marida that is a strange situation. The "Aunt" and the Brides mother both came for the appointment. Not the bride - she lives in dallas
[20:08] <Earlene> Dolores I have a new five tier dummy and tried something new on it to keep the styrafoam clean.
[20:08] <Marida> Are you just going to wait it out?
[20:09] <Dolores7> what Earlene?
[20:09] <Earlene> For right now. But I am giving some serious thought to changing my deposit policy
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[20:09] <Dolores7> I'd 'wait it out' otherwise you'll be put on the spot for the deposit refund
[20:09] <ShirleyR> hi cklady
[20:09] <Dolores7> Hi cklady and traciann
[20:09] <ShirleyR> hi traciann
[20:09] <cklady> HI Dolores and Shirley
[20:10] <LadyCakes> Hi Cklady, I haven't seen you since Sun..LOL
[20:10] <cklady> Hi Laura
[20:10] <LadyCakes> Hi Brenda
[20:10] <Earlene> I covered the top with the contact paper. Taking it down the sides about an inch. Then I took that clear wide tape and did the sides real tight. That covered it really easy and fast
[20:11] <Earlene> It also really smoothed down all those little clippings of the top contact paper.
[20:11] <cklady> Does any know some good uses for wafer paper - I had to get 100 sheets when I ordered some today. I need them for butterflies, but only wanted about 5 sheets!
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[20:11] <Dolores7> Earlene - I really think this is a great alternative. I'd heard about something similar
[20:11] <Marida> I have never covered my dummies with anything but royal icing. I have one I am going to try the wrap on bebore I ice it.
[20:11] <ShirleyR> Hi eddie_CA
[20:11] <Dolores7> Hi Eddie..
[20:11] <eddie_CA> hello everyone
[20:11] <Dolores7> cklady...thats expensive!
[20:12] <Dolores7> going on about cake dummies....
[20:12] <cklady> no, he said it wasn't too high, but it was more than I wanted. Should have called you!
[20:12] <LadyCakes> I have five 3 tier cake dummies sitting in my shop covered with buttercream icing and it holds up real well
[20:12] <Dolores7> PERMAICE: This is NOT edible at all. But a dummy iced and decorated with Perma-ice is merely washed off with soap and water when it gets dirty or dustyIt won't fade, since
you use real colors, not food coloring. (Royal icing DOES fade bad after 3-4 months). There IS some way to thicken it, but I forget what.
[20:12] <Dolores7> With Permaice. the application is smooth, drop-strings are perfect, roses wonderful, borders precise. Only drawback is the price. The greatest benefit with either one is that they
are both permanent, lightweight, & WASHABLE!!! YES, you can set them in your sink & spray them off if they get dusty from sitting in a shop display window. They DO NOT YELLOW! In
order to color the perma ice, us TUBE acrylic paint, nothing else. The color wil
[20:12] <Dolores7> You CAN use regular spacking paste. But it kinda defeats the purpose since it is not washable.
[20:12] <Dolores7> Do you know the ``paper towel'' method of smoothing a cake? I've done this on Perma-Ice & it worked very well. I like the look of the textured markings, & use ``towel'' method a
lot just for the look.
[20:12] <Dolores7> Use perma-ice on gingerbread. If you want to make display houses you never intend to eat.
[20:12] <Earlene> The reason I cover them is because after they have had the icing on them - you can beat the icing off - wash the icing off - peel the icing off - whatever - But they still get stinky
after they have icing in contact with the styrafoam
[20:12] <Dolores7> oops LOL - that was a lotta stuff!
[20:12] <helen_oh> dolores let me introduce Ed!!!!
[20:12] <Dolores7> I thought so...Hi Ed
[20:13] <eddie_CA> Hiya Dolores :)
[20:13] <Dolores7> Ed...I'm trying to teach Helen copy/paste...she won't listen to me :(
[20:13] <Earlene> Hi Ed glad to have you join us tonight
[20:13] <Dolores7> Ed...thanks SO much for getting Helen into this
[20:13] <ShirleyR> Dolores7 I have it on my aliases..want me to put it up for her
[20:13] <eddie_CA> Hi Earlene I can't stay long... cutting and pasting in the cake world or the computer world?
[20:14] <helen_oh> you two will drive me to drink!!!
[20:14] <Earlene> Another Newbie - Helen you will do great in hear.
[20:14] <Dolores7> sure Shirley
[20:14] <ShirleyR> ok
[20:14] <cklady> Has anyone heard or used the the new Maytag Gemini to bake 2 cakes at once? For $1300 I want to know if it works for ck dec before I think about it!
[20:14] <Dolores7> Helen lives REAL close to me...she came down last week and we played on the computer awhile
[20:14] <Earlene> Well we are glad you came to visit us. We love newbies and visitors
[20:14] <Dolores7> Maytag Gemini? an oven?
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[20:14] <ShirleyR> 12 helen_oh
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 4To copy and paste:
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 121) Hi lite the item you want to copy with your cursor (the hilite will not stay, but thats ok)12....with the crtl and c
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 122) Click on Aliases on your bar above.
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 123) Click on Add and name your aliases
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 124) In the big box, Command Definition box, do a ctrl V
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 125) Edit out any unwanted text like names
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 126) SAVE IT
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 4 TO PLAY AN ALIASE
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 12Click on aliases above.
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 12Scroll down the list and find the name of the alias you want to try. Just remember it, don't click on it.
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 12Where you usually type, type a slash (/) and the word you chose, no spaces. Like this /angel
[20:14] <ShirleyR> 12Done! Have fun!
[20:15] <Dolores7> I forgot to log!
[20:15] <eddie_CA> gotta go have some supper all this talk of food
[20:15] <ShirleyR> oops helen_oh you dont have to put it in your aliases..lol
[20:15] <cklady> Gemini is the new oven that fits into the space of your old, regular one, and has 2 ovens in it. You are supposed to be able to bake 2 diff things at 2 dif temps at the same time.
[20:15] <Dolores7> night Ed...nice to meet you
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[20:15] <Dolores7> Helen...do you understand????
[20:16] <Earlene> Hey Dolores I had the opportunity to share a little of how the web pages were done with Colette when I was in NJ. Now isn't that something. Look what you got started girl. LOL
[20:16] <Dolores7> Hi ohmigosh
[20:16] <LadyCakes> I have a oven like that and they are great
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[20:16] <eddie_CA> same here Dolores thanks for all your mentoring
[20:16] <ShirleyR> helen you can just add it to your wordpad
[20:16] <helen_oh> I love the gemini matag only cost $1300
[20:16] <Dolores7> GREAT! Colette told me she had a lot to learn...did you help her a lot?
[20:16] <Dolores7> wlecome Ed
[20:16] <cklady> No LadyCakes, not a regular double oven ( I've seen yours!), but a small one that is the size of a regular oven.
[20:16] <MindyMc> you have the maytag oven that has the two separate doors on it.
[20:16] <LadyCakes> it is worth the money as you can bake two cakeas at the same time
[20:16] <Dolores7> I sent Helen a cheat sheet
[20:16] <Earlene> I showed her what I use and how it works. She also has a MAC so that made it easier for her.
[20:17] <LadyCakes> Oh, well I love mine
[20:17] <Dolores7> That was lucky...MAC
[20:17] <Marida> How large are the two cakes you can bake at the same time?
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[20:17] <cklady> I don't have the room to put in a double oven like that. I'd loose too much space in my kitchen. Oh, you can supposedly fit 2 12x18's into it.
[20:17] <eddie_CA> good night mom :)
[20:17] <Earlene> What is the largest size you can bake
[20:17] <Dolores7> ANY professional oven is better than the home oven for the fact that it is made better - I think - mine sure is
[20:18] <Dolores7> I can get 6 full sheet cakes in mine
[20:18] <LadyCakes> I can bake any size at the same time and cane bake 4 fourth sheet cakes at the same time in my double oven
[20:18] <Dolores7> I can get one that holds 3 full sheet cakes for $3,000.00
[20:18] <Earlene> I love mine now. Since I have the pie sheets - they made all the difference in the world
[20:19] <helen_oh> goodnight Ed!love you--
[20:19] <cklady> I can do a 12x18 now, but only one. I don't have room for a professional oven either - wish I did. Someday when I get my shop. Until I get a shop, I have to makes due.
[20:19] <Dolores7> Yes...Earlene recommended the one I have
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[20:19] <Dolores7> Its early where Ed is
[20:19] <LadyCakes> I can do (2) 12x18 at the same time in the two ovens
[20:19] <Earlene> We have twin ovens Dolores.... LOL
[20:19] <cklady> Where's Ed
[20:20] <Dolores7> right...and twin digital cameras too...Earlene is the guina pig I guess
[20:20] <Earlene> I stilll love that one to.
[20:20] <helen_oh> Probably had work to do
[20:20] <ShirleyR> lol
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20:20] <cklady> I only have a plain, single oven, and do all my work with that. I'd love this Gemini because you can put a ck in the top, and another in the bottom at the same time. I just need to talk
to someone whose done this - maybe it's too new.
[20:20] <Dolores7> here is the rest of what I was sending you tonight:
[20:20] <Dolores7> What about the rest of you...do you have any hints to add to this?
[20:20] <Dolores7> What subjects would you most like for us to cover in the next few weeks????
[20:20] <Earlene> You should see the album I have of pictures from the ICES Show, the OK show, our pulled sugar class and the NY.NJ trip
[20:21] <Earlene> It is about 2 inches thick. Love that digital camera
[20:21] <Dolores7> I wish I'd get my pictures IN an album. But they sure are good picts.
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[20:22] <Earlene> Dolores I opened up a word processing page and put four to six pictures on a page. Printed the pages and put them in page protectors for the album. Worked great.
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[20:22] <cklady> Hey LadyCakes, still snow on the ground where you are?
[20:23] <LadyCakes> I do that to for my wed album for people to see when they come into the shop, I love my digital to
[20:23] <Dolores7> I did that the other day too. With my student's picts. But I want a fancy printer now LOL
[20:23] <LadyCakes> yes and it is about 24 here, how about you?
[20:23] <Earlene> How many of you are doing bridal shows right now?
[20:23] <Dolores7> other cameras are getting REAL cheap I noticed
[20:23] <cklady> I bought a digital for Christmas and love it. My cus like the bigger pics too.
[20:23] <MindyMc> how does it cost out using the digital camera and the special paper and ink for the photographs
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[20:23] <Earlene> But we have the best girl.....
[20:23] <cklady> Yes, still snow - and NO SCHOOL again tom! It's about 24 here too.
[20:24] <MindyMc> I went to one on Sunday
[20:24] <LadyCakes> No bridal shows in my small town, whis they were
[20:24] <Dolores7> Mindy, I think the initial cost is the big buy
[20:24] <Earlene> About $3 per page when you count the paper, blk ink and color ink.
[20:24] <LadyCakes> took you long enough to get one cklady...LOL
[20:24] <Dolores7> Of course we must have photo paper.
[20:24] <MindyMc> this is for 8x10 photos?
[20:24] <Earlene> That is for an 8X10 page of pictures
[20:24] <cklady> Hee - only got one for you LadyCakes!
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[20:25] <Dolores7> What kind of photo printer does everyone have?
[20:25] <LadyCakes> thank you cklady
[20:25] <ShirleyR> LadyCakes are you the same one I had on my icq?
[20:25] <Dolores7> I just have a little Fargo photo printer. It is perfect but only does small picts.
[20:25] <Earlene> Epson photo paper seems to be the best photo paper. I bought one pkg of HP paper and it didn't measure up
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[20:25] <MindyMc> mine is a hp 694C. but I've never printed any photos on it. It's suppose to work for them though
[20:25] <LadyCakes> yes I think I was till I got a virus and now have lost all I had on ICQ
[20:25] <Earlene> Epson
[20:26] <Dolores7> good to know Earlene...I always take your advice LOL
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[20:26] <cklady> Can you belive it eveyone, we less than 3" of snow, and they cancelled school for 2 days, closed most business today, and postponed a party for which I made a 150 person ck for!
[20:26] <LadyCakes> cannon 5100 is the best to print out frost sheets
[20:26] <Dolores7> I saw an Epson for about $500.00 I thought would work
[20:26] <ShirleyNV> I have a Hewlett Packerd deskjet 855C fir normal stuff and the Canon 5100 for Edible Images.
[20:26] <Earlene> The HP paper was grainy as well as duller.
[20:26] <ShirleyR> ok LadyCakes ..I thought your name looked familar to me..lol
[20:26] <Dolores7> yes, but for your digital c. Shirley...what for that?
[20:27] <cklady> The 5100 was rated very high in Consumer Digest for pic printing - and is good for frosting sheets too
[20:27] <Dolores7> It prints better thanmy 6000 - I think.
[20:27] <Dolores7> I use the 5100 for frosting pictures
[20:27] <ShirleyNV> I use the HP for camera photo prints.
[20:27] <LadyCakes> I have the Epson 440 for my reg pic's
[20:28] <Dolores7> My laser won't print on photo paper
[20:28] <MindyMc> I use the 5100 for edible photos too.
[20:28] <Earlene> I have learned that it doesn't work so well for candid shots of people. If they move a little - its shutter speed is to slow.
[20:28] <cklady> If you put in the 7 color cartridge and change the printheads of course, you get fantastic pics - have to have the special paper too though.
[20:28] <Dolores7> yes...must hold SO still...need a tripod really.
[20:28] <Dolores7> HELEN - are you here????
[20:28] <ShirleyR> I have a epson 740 for regular pictures
[20:28] <Earlene> The good photo paper is really the secret to printing really good photos.
[20:29] <LadyCakes> you are right Earlene
[20:29] <Dolores7> I must keep that in mind Earlene. Thanks
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[20:29] <Earlene> Right. Even a tripod for the cakes is best
[20:29] <cklady> My camera is the Kodak DC215 camera - great pics for the price. I took shots of the kids in the snow today and they were very crisp and sharp. You can get them from Buy.com
for about $350 now - and that includes the USB reader
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[20:29] <Earlene> So now I try to remember to let people know I want their picture so they will be still. LOL
[20:29] <helen_oh> just listening cant type fast enough
[20:29] <Dolores7> that IS a good price. Mine cost about twice that!
[20:29] <CarolAnnTX> Cannon 5100, I will use mine too for frosting pictures, when my husband gets through playing with it.
[20:30] <LadyCakes> I got those pic's in email from cklady today and they are so clear
[20:30] <Earlene> No more being sneaky LOL
[20:30] <Dolores7> you do fine helen...just chime in any old time
[20:30] <Dolores7> just change head and cartridges Carol?
[20:30] <cklady> I am really happy with the camera - and the price was right. Target had it for more $, without the reader, and less megabite card - mine came with the 8 not the 4
[20:30] <LadyCakes> I use my Cannon 5100 for nothing but my frosting sheets
[20:31] <Dolores7> HELEN,,,wait til we really get going...we'll need to be speed readers too LOL
[20:31] <Earlene> I got a 80 MB card - I can take pictures forever now.
[20:31] <LadyCakes> don't want to take the chance that ink will get on my frost sheet
[20:31] <Earlene> Helen you are doing great.
[20:31] <Dolores7> I have 3 cards and ran out at ICES
[20:31] <cklady> I could spring for a larger card, but downloading is so easy with the USB that I don't leave pics on the camera for long enough to matter
[20:32] <CarolAnnTX> Now that Holidays are over and he's back to work , I'll fix it my way.
[20:32] <Earlene> What size cards do you have Dolores
[20:32] <helen_oh> Thanks Earlene!!
[20:32] <traciann> now what do you guys know about these cameras that actually use floppy disks for storage so you can pop them right into your floppy drive????
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[20:32] <LynneCA1> 12 Hi everybody !
[20:32] <Dolores7> 1 8MB and 2 30's
[20:32] <ShirleyNV> I had to print a contact out the other day, and forgot to switch the printers and printed it out on regular paper and food coloring on my 5100. It still printed clear as a bell. I used
it, no one will ever know except all of you that it was printed with food coloring!
[20:32] <LadyCakes> Hi Lynne
[20:32] <Dolores7> Hi Lynne!
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[20:33] <Earlene> A floppy disk doesn't hold much memory. So therefore you won't have many pictures at high resolution.
[20:33] <Dolores7> Hi Karyn
[20:33] <cklady> Traciann, they are ok, but the quality isn't as good as some cameras. We looked into those, but decided against them because of that.
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[20:33] <Dolores7> I set my resolution at as high as it goes
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[20:33] <LadyCakes> My camera takes 42 pic's at a time
[20:33] <LynneCA1> 12 Hi everybody !
[20:33] <KARYN718> hi
[20:33] <ShirleyR> hi KARYN718
[20:33] <ShirleyR> hi LynneCA1
[20:33] <Earlene> Unless they get it near water ShirleyNV LOL
[20:33] <ShirleyNV> Opps! I hopr not!
[20:33] <Dolores7> nice to see you Lynne.
[20:34] <LynneCA1> hello everyone. what a nice group!
[20:34] <cklady> Mine takes 54-100 depending on what I set it on.
[20:34] <Dolores7> yeah Lynne...we're gabby too
[20:34] <Earlene> Plus that camera with the floppy is heavy..... very heavy
[20:34] <traciann> so my dad told me a floppy disk could hold about 40 pictures??? not true?? maybe i don't understand about resolution...
[20:35] <traciann> so my photos will maybe be grainier???
[20:35] <Dolores7> traci...can you save 40 picts on one disk from your computer...same thing
[20:35] <Earlene> Traciann the higher resolution the less pictures you will get. It takes more memory for higher resolution.
[20:35] <cklady> Do some reading, check out the web sites and the consumer digests, ask around before you spend money. It's worth seeing what people evaluate the camera your looking at as, and see what will work for you in your price range.
[20:35] <Dolores7> BUT - mine are JPG too...which are much smaller files than if they were TISs
[20:35] <Dolores7> ...TIFs LOL
[20:35] <Earlene> Can you print out an 8X10 and it still be clear and not fuzzy?
[20:36] <traciann> ok--thanks

[20:36] <cklady> I have to set the camera to take the bigger pics - higher res, and they look great. Otherwise, I keep them at about the 5x7 range
[20:36] <LadyCakes> I print 8x10's and they are good
[20:36] <Earlene> If you have a low resolution it might print a small picture clear but the bigger ones might be fuzzy
[20:37] <cklady> I tell you what, it was cool today to see the pics I took TODAY.
[20:37] <LadyCakes> My camera is a LCD QV-700
[20:37] <Dolores7> Earlene, your pics on your web site were all taken with your digital, right?
[20:37] <Earlene> Great. I know I sure wouldn't want to go back to the other camera now. I AM SPOILED ROTTEN WITH THIS CAMERA
[20:37] <traciann> i like the idea of beign able to see them right away so i know if i need to take  another!!!! my pics are always so rotten!! But getting better
[20:37] <Dolores7> me TOO!
[20:37] <Earlene> All of the ones since I bought the camera
[20:37] <cklady> I like to check mine too - especially at weddings!
[20:38] <Dolores7> I still haven't figured out how to put them on the TV
[20:38] <Earlene> We would have never gotten pictures of that pulled sugar work with a regular camera
[20:38] <Dolores7> really Earlene?
[20:38] <Dolores7> why?
[20:38] <cklady> We hook our camera to the TV, then tell the TV to go to Aux Input, put the TV on it's AUX channel and it's there - big pics of us on TV. Took some reading to figure that out though.
[20:39] <Earlene> You just plug in your camera and plug it into the input on the back of your VCR and then push play. Have your camera do the slide show and walla you have a slide show on your TV
[20:39] <Dolores7> I need time to practice
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[20:39] <Dolores7> Thanks...I'll try that
[20:39] <LadyCakes> You also have a com smart husband Cklady, that helps
[20:39] <cklady> Different systems work differently - we tried the plug and play first, but had to set our TV different
[20:40] <cklady> Oh - not this time. I figured out the TV connection myself, thank you : )
[20:40] <LadyCakes> LOL
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[20:40] <Dolores7> no one helps me! My hubby barely can work the channel changer LOl
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[20:41] <Dolores7> the TV is new, so I think that will work
[20:41] <Earlene> The pulled sugar seemed to have light come from within the sugar pieces. We had to  almost cut the light out of the room to getgood pictures. The clear pieces especially. Pieces with more color took a little more light and we had a person standing in front of a window by the sink moving to adjust the light. Now is that a fancy lighting trick
[20:41] <cklady> I'm spoiled, my hubby is good at comes, but he leaves me to figure out the VCR and stuff!
[20:42] <cklady> I meant he's good at computers - oops!
[20:42] <LadyCakes> he sure is good, he has fixed mine several times
[20:42] <Dolores7> I see...so having the digital you could check intermittantly too
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[20:42] <helen_oh> Ihave a son that knows it all but not close enough to me
[20:42] <Earlene> Me to Dolores - If Dannie needs to get up early to go fishing I have to set the alarm on the clock radio for him. LOL
[20:42] <Dolores7> Mine is GREAT at electricity, plumbing, carpentry etc.
[20:42] <Dolores7> LOL
[20:43] <cklady> I have one of those Jack-of-all-trades hubbys - and love it!
[20:43] <Earlene> But he sure is great with making things I need. Like cabinets, cake boards, fixing the plumbing and etc.
[20:43] <LadyCakes> Mine is a great cake baker, bakes all my cakes for me
[20:43] <Dolores7> Yep....Helen is lucky...her son knows EVERYTHING about electronics!
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[20:43] <LynneCA1> see, i knew you two had to have found something good in them to keep them around soooo long :)
[20:43] <Dolores7> His is BIGtime eletronics!
[20:43] <Dolores7> right Lynne
[20:44] <cklady> Yeah, they have to be pretty good to love 'em for this long - he's a keeper
[20:44] <Dolores7> Helen's son did Universal studio in FL!
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[20:44] <Earlene> Right we would set the room and lighting the best we could figure, take a picture and check it, Then we could have our lighting person move to the left or right or turn another light out and  etc.
[20:45] <Dolores7> Thats what I did at first Earlene...a lot
[20:45] <Earlene> We wouldn'[t have gotten any pictures at all with a regular camera
[20:45] <cklady> I saw those pic Earlene - you did do a great job, despite all those hoops you had to jump through!
[20:45] <Dolores7> I see that
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[20:45] <ShirleyR> hi ReneeS
[20:45] <ShirleyNV> Last night we talked a little about applying for a Tax ID#..... has anyone found out  any more? I printed out the IRS form from http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fss4.pdf , but want to talk to my tax man before I send it in.
[20:45] <Dolores7> who taught the pulled sugar class?
[20:45] <Dolores7> Hi Renee
[20:45] <ReneeS> hi all
[20:45] <Marida> Hi, Renee.
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[20:46] <cklady> I just went to the county tax office, it was easy and didn't cost a thing
[20:46] <Earlene> Wyn Grisham - from Albuquerque, NM - she's great
[20:46] <Dolores7> I have one Shirley...but mine is too different I'm sure
[20:46] <Dolores7> I wondered if it was Wyn...she is so good!
[20:46] <TrishCA> may I ask what a class like that runs?
[20:46] <cklady> Does anyone know if you can do cks out of your home in IL - we might move there in about 2 years. Just curious at this point -checking our options.
[20:46] <MindyMc> shirleynv, I wasn't able to find it.
[20:46] <Earlene> She just sent me a picture of pooh and the animals in the forest. She just loves playing with this stuff.
[20:47] <Dolores7> where in IL?...north west?
[20:47] <MindyMc> the county tax office has the stuff do do this
[20:47] <cklady> Rockford area - about 75 miles west of Chicago
[20:47] <Dolores7> a gal here did a blown sugar peacock at a DOS
[20:47] <ShirleyNV> I was just wondering if you have a tax Id# if you MUST file a return under that number even if it is not used.
[20:47] <Earlene> She charged us $200 for the four days plus equipment. But I think we got a deal
[20:47] <Marida> No. You do not have to use the number. We don't.
[20:47] <LynneCA1> here in calif you do shirley
[20:47] <Dolores7> cklady...bet you will have to follow the rules pretty close in that metro area
[20:48] <cklady> You have to file even if you don't make money, but if you don't use the # anymore, tell them!
[20:48] <Dolores7> no one around here hardly, is legal
[20:48] <traciann> shirley...why do you want to get a number???
[20:48] <MindyMc> You don't have to send in tax forms with your business and use the tax # Marida
[20:48] <Earlene> I am the only home baker here that is legal.
[20:48] <Marida> I only have a number so I can wholesale
 [20:48] <Dolores7> I have to file even if I don't make money too...guess because I have the license
 [20:48] <cklady> I'm wondering what the rules are up there. NC doesn't care a bit - I don't even need a licence here because I'm not in city limits
 [20:48] <ShirleyNV> To order wholesale, for resale.
 [20:48] <cklady> What did you have to do to be legal Earlene
 [20:49] <Earlene> After the bakery turned me in and I got legal they haven't bothered anyone else
 [20:49] <Dolores7> Earlene has a wonderful separate kitchen
 [20:49] <Marida> Shirley, I wholesale from CK and Wilton and I think I had to give them my tax ID number. I only use it for that since we don't have amplyess.
 [20:49] <Dolores7> maybe they learned in the school of hard knocks Earlene LOL
 [20:49] <Earlene> Seperate kitchen, triple sink, all the other stuff. But you must have a separate kitchen here in TX
[20:49] <traciann> the reason i asked is because i work in a bank, and people frequently ask for forms to apply for them, and lately i've had people tell me they won't even give you one if you don't have employees...because technically you can use your own social security number...
[20:49] <cklady> That's not a bad option - if we buy a house up there, we'll be looking for someplace I can convert the basement into a shop anyway.
[20:50] <Earlene> Right Dolores. Now I can do the Bridal shows, advertise or whatever. So they haven't bothered anyone else
[20:50] <Dolores7> Some people say they want licensed people to bring cakes in because otherwise they are libel...I don't know
[20:50] <Marida> Traciann, you are right. You can use your social security number if you don't have employees. But, for some reason, CK Products and Wilton both asked for it.
 [20:50] <Dolores7> thats what they get
 [20:51] <traciann> i guess i dont understand why you'd have to have a TIN to order wholesale,,,because it's perfectly legal to operate as a sole proprietor and use your own number...
 [20:51] <cklady> I asked my bedridden sister-in-law to do some calling for me ( she's trying NOT to have a baby too early). I'm curious to see what she comes up with.
 [20:51] <ShirleyNV> Triple sinks ???? I just wanted to price them, and can't find them anywhere.... even on the net.
 [20:51] <Dolores7> shirley...find 2nd hand bakery suppliers
 [20:51] <Dolores7> Or look int he paper
 [20:51] <LadyCakes> try Ebay
[20:51] <cklady> Lowes carries a double sink with a small addition in the middle that would qualify - why triple sinks I wonder?
 [20:52] <Earlene> We also had to get a special zoning variance because we are in a residential area. But our neighbors went to bat for us.
 [20:52] <LynneCA1> shirley, look for triple bay
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[20:52] <MindyMc> ebay has them sometimes
[20:52] <traciann> oh ok...gotcha marida...now i see why that would be a
problem..those companies obviously aren't familiar with the rules...LOL
[20:52] <cklady> Good old neighbors - you can bribe them with your product! My neighbors love me for that!
[20:52] <Dolores7> what is triple bay?
[20:52] <LadyCakes> one for washing and two rinses
[20:52] <Earlene> We have to wash the stuff, rinse in clear water and then rinse in a bleach water solution for sanitation
[20:52] <MindyMc> how much was that sink cklady at lowes?
[20:52] <cklady> Oh, you gotta wash your equipment??
[20:52] <ShirleyNV> Some places will not even send you a catolog with out the TIN.
[20:52] <LynneCA1> why triple -- it's for restaurants who have meat. The meat must only be cleaned in one compartment
[20:53] <cklady> Never priced it, just noticed it once.
[20:53] <ReneeS> can't you use a dishwasher instead?
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[20:53] <Dolores7> Lynne...they don't make exceptions here...group us all together
[20:53] <traciann> i see shirleynv
[20:53] <ShirleyR> hi SandyKS
[20:53] <Dolores7> Hi Sandy
[20:53] <MindyMc> the dishwasher has to have the rinse temperature high enough to kill germs
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[20:53] <LynneCA1> yes, that's what i ment
[20:53] <Earlene> Can't get those great big pans in the dishwasher
[20:53] <MindyMc> or it has to have the chemicals in it
[20:53] <SandyKS> hI can't find my typeing line
[20:53] <MindyMc> I priced a 3 bowl sink this past weekend and it was $1000
[20:54] <Dolores7> I paid $600.00 for my triple sink I think
[20:54] <MindyMc> and that was for the regular size kitchen size with a small bowl in the middle
[20:54] <Dolores7> Then you must have a grease trap so you don't plug up the city sewage : )
[20:54] <LadyCakes> you can get them cheaper used from restaurants that have gone out of business
[20:54] <cklady> That's what I saw MindyMc
[20:54] <Earlene> I think I paid around that about when we bought this one. $500
[20:54] <Dolores7> mine was in good shape - 2nd hand
[20:55] <MindyMc> this one would have to be special ordered is why it was so high. I was hoping if the lumber yards stocked the 3 bowl sinks that they would be cheaper
[20:55] <LynneCA1> here the sink must be a big as the biggest pan you use -- that deep also and have an 18" drain board on both sides
[20:55] <ShirleyNV> We do have a resturant supply (USED) here, I'm going to check them out in the morning.
[20:55] <Dolores7> Anyone getting a cake started for ICES this summer yet???
[20:55] <Earlene> Even if you are on your own septic tank you still have to have the grease trap
[20:55] <cklady> Could you install 2 sinks? A double and a single close together?
[20:55] <MindyMc> I bet you can find all kinds of stuff there shirleynv
[20:55] <traciann> when is it time to start thinking about making reservations for ices???
[20:55] <MindyMc> yes, I think you can cklady
[20:55] <Dolores7> guess it would stop up any plumbing
[20:56] <Earlene> Wish I could drive - I would have one ready. : , (
[20:56] <Dolores7> It did mine...hubby said it was a strange yellow, red, blue etc...and blamed ME LOL
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[20:56] <MindyMc> we were trying to figure out how to do that. If you get a sink base, a piece of countertop, and a regular sink and a bar sink, I think it will work
[20:56] <Dolores7> NOW traci
[20:56] <Dolores7> I must do my res soon...doing a demo there
[20:56] <ShirleyNV> I hopr , but I know I'll spend TOOOOOO much money.
[20:56] <Earlene> You better get your hotel reservations in now for ICES.
[20:57] <Earlene> What are you doing this year Dolores?
[20:57] <Dolores7> right Shirley...guess we all do.
[20:57] <Dolores7> The usual...wedding cake
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[20:57] <Dolores7> What are you doing Earlene???
[20:57] <cklady> Your wedding cks are anything but usual!
[20:57] <traciann> well...i don't really think i'm getting a hotel...i need to double check the specific location...but i'm only an hour from detroit so i was thinking of driving in each day...how early and late does it (or can you) usually go...i guess i'm wondering if i wouldn't be happier just staying there??
[20:57] <Earlene> I had to change mine - can't fly with the kitchen sink this year. LOL
[20:58] <Dolores7> welll>>>can't see why anyone wants to see that twice
[20:58] <Earlene> Buttercream stencils -
[20:58] <Dolores7> traci...fun to stay there tho...starts real early for demos
[20:58] <Dolores7> things open...cake room etc at 9 usually
[20:59] <CarolAnnTX> I hate flying we,re driving.
[20:59] <Earlene> Oregan has already asked for that Grooms cake demo again. I told them they would have to furnish a lot of stuff for me to be able todo it up there
[20:59] <Marida> How soon do they know what the demos will be?
[20:59] <LynneCA1> traci, i know it's extra expense, but you miss sooooooo much if you don't stay there. i did that the 1st time, went w/other people and miss so much
[20:59] <Dolores7> thats good Earlene...newbies will love that.
[20:59] <SandyKS> traciann, you'll enjoy yourself a lot more if you stay at the hotel. we have great slumber parties and learn a lot from each other at nightl
[20:59] <Dolores7> You don't even have time to eat Traci
[20:59] <Earlene> I agree Lynne - you miss out on a lot if you don't stay
[20:59] <Dolores7> I carry crackers in case LOL
[20:59] <traciann> good...i could stand a few days with no food!! hehe
[21:00] <Marida> No, Dolores--your hubby buys you Ice Cream!
[21:00] <Earlene> Eat at a convention. Heaven forbid. That is why we have two meal events - so our families won't think we starved. LOL
[21:00] <traciann> so last year i remember you all kinda arranged for roomates and stuff like that?? who takes care of that?
[21:00] <Dolores7> LOL,,,as you discovered Marida...for my BD too
[21:00] <Marida> I'll never forget that one!
[21:01] <Dolores7> Traci...some ask on my message board and find a roomate. Just be sure you get a non-smoker if you prefer that
[21:01] <SandyKS> i take pop and dried apricots to survive on. no time to eat.
[21:01] <Earlene> I have a group I have traveled with for years. Just ask around and hopefully you will find someone you are compatible with.
[21:01] <Marida> I roomed with BarbaraR last year.
[21:01] <Dolores7> make a few rules so far as phone and room expenses go
[21:01] <Dolores7> start NOW
[21:01] <Earlene> Peanut butter crackers and an apple in the bag and off we go
[21:02] <traciann> i am so excited!!!
[21:02] <Dolores7> and didn't know each other beforehand, right Marida?
[21:02] <CarolAnnTX> Since I'm taking the hubby I can always load him down with goodies in a back pack.
[21:02] <Marida> You know, Dolores--that guy is good at pulling your leg.
[21:02] <Earlene> My hubby is planning on going this year too.
[21:02] <Dolores7> you'll RUN from one demo to the other...and the vendors...and the cakes and...
[21:02] <traciann> you know what i wouldn't mind talking about some night soon? unless anyone else objects...but i'd just like to spend some time talking about what to expect there, etc....
[21:02] <Dolores7> Marida...hes still laughing too
[21:03] <Earlene> and the cakes and the demos and the vendors and the bathroom and the demos and the .......
[21:03] <Dolores7> HE knew who Marida was but she didn't know who HE was LOL
[21:03] <Marida> Inearly fell over when I saw him talking to you!
[21:03] <Dolores7> ROTFL
[21:03] <CarolAnnTX> I guess I spent too much money last time so, we'll see ?
[21:03] <SandyKS> i wouldn't want to take my husband. he'd watch the pocketbook too close. LOL
[21:03] <Earlene> We definetly must have time to visit with one another and get names attached to faces
[21:04] <traciann> do you guys all usually stay at the same place???
[21:04] <Marida> The best part was meeting one another!!
[21:04] <Dolores7> mine says things like 'WHERE WILL <THAT> FIT?
[21:04] <LadyCakes> I must say GN to you all, it was great chatting with you
[21:04] <ShirleyR> goodnight LadyCakes
[21:04] <Dolores7> YES...stay at the main hotel so you can dump things off in your room...no time for commuting!
[21:04] <MindyMc> nite Laura, glad you finally got it hooked up.
[21:04] <cklady> Night Laura, see ya in the AM! My bedtime too!
[21:04] <Dolores7> night Shirley
[21:04] <Earlene> If you see my husband holding my hands you know he has been trying to get my attention. I can't talk without using my hands and when he grabs my arms I am stuck. LOL
[21:05] <Dolores7> and Laura
[21:05] <Dolores7> LOL
[21:05] <Earlene> Night LadyCakes
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[21:05] <traciann> how much can you expect to pay per night for a room?? ballpark?
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[21:05] <ShirleyR> Dolores7 I'm not leaving..I was saying bye to LadyCakes
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 [21:05] <Dolores7> Bob was napping and woke up because I laughed so much
[21:05] <Marida> Traciann-- it should be in your ICES newsletter.
[21:05] <Earlene> I think the rooms are 118 per room - one to four people - flat rate. But you must tell them you are with the ICES group
[21:06] <Dolores7> The forms are on ices.org
[21:06] <traciann> marida...shame on me...i haven't joined ices yet...bad bad traci!! it's on my list of things to do!!!
[21:07] <Dolores7> gosh traci...go to www.ices.org and do that
[21:07] <LynneCA1> yu're not the only one traci :)
[21:07] <TrishCA> ditto
[21:07] <Earlene> I made our reservations week before last and they wanted to charge me more. SO be sure you tell them you are with the ICES organization - and be prepared to explain what those letters mean
[21:07] <ShirleyNV> Do you have to be a member to attend the Convention?
[21:07] <Marida> The President of ICES is in our cake club--so is another
of the officers.
[21:07] <Dolores7> It takes 2 months to get in the system and deadline for early signup for the conv. is JUNE 1
[21:07] <LynneCA1> no way!!
[21:07] <Earlene> You don't have to be a member to go to convention
[21:07] <Dolores7> thanks Earlene
[21:08] <Dolores7> no but you will want to be a member
[21:08] <traciann> ok...well i'm going to sign up SOON!!! promise!!!
[21:08] <LynneCA1> usually membership cost is built in convention fee if not already a mbr
 [21:08] <Marida> I like seeing all the new stuff. Haven' tried everything I bought last year--especially from Nickolas Lodge.
[21:08] <Dolores7> remember that this year Marida
[21:08] <traciann> sounds like i need to get a temporary second job...cake orders aren't comign in as fast as i want them too! hehe
[21:09] <Earlene> You will go home with so much stuff in your brain that it will be leaking out all the way home and you won't be able to remember allyou saw and learned.
 [21:09] <Marida> I am. I am hoping I can get George to go. He is giving ademo on squaring up cakes tomorrow nite at our club meeting. that is a bricklayer thing you know.
[21:09] <Dolores7> he'd love it
[21:09] <ReneeS> i'm coming Marida, I hope it's not too snowy!
[21:09] <SandyKS> take the cam corder along, marida, he might be able to sell some videos
[21:09] <Earlene> By the way I still have some spaces in the class that Nick will be teaching here next OCT. But not many if any of you are interested
[21:10] <Dolores7> can't sell at ICES...
[21:10] <Marida> Renee--did you figure out where the meeting is? That might be closer for you.
[21:10] <ReneeS> yes i got it, thanks
[21:10] <helen_oh> I remember when I first started going with Dolores---made me dizzy
[21:10] <Dolores7> I STRONGLY recommend Nick's class to all!
[21:10] <Dolores7> Helen...thought she was in fairy land
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[21:11] <Earlene> He is the best - and he says the facilities here ar the best.
[21:11] <Dolores7> Here is something she wrote, but couldnt figure out how to put on here fast enough:
[21:11] <traciann> dolores have you thought any more of getting nick to come to ohio???
[21:11] <Marida> Dolores--I liked that guy outside of Creative Wedding cutters who was from England. He almost talked that I DO Cakes pin off of me but I lost it anyway.
[21:11] <Dolores7> Helen wanted me to copy/paste this to you all. I've been trying to teach her
[21:11] <Dolores7> how to copy/paste but its a little soon so I'll put on what she wanted to tell all of you:
 [21:12] <Dolores7> I was always interested in cake decorating and I took beginners and advanced but
[21:12] <Dolores7> the teacher did'nt teach much. My son got me an offer to teach and I took
[21:12] <Dolores7> it. Then I got scared so I searched all over the country for a teacher. I
[21:12] <Dolores7> found this woman who told me Dolores had more talent in her little finger
[21:12] <Dolores7> than she had in her whole body.I found her and took her advanced class.
[21:12] <Dolores7> it began this great adventure with Dolores, and I found out she had a
[21:12] <Dolores7> lot of talent in her little finger and the rest of them were not bad
[21:12] <Dolores7> either. A short version of my friendship many years ago!!!!!!!
[21:12] <Earlene> You have to book Nick years ahead to get him in your area.
[21:12] <Dolores7> Visit my website at http://my.voyager.net/icer
[21:12] <Dolores7> I found they were using terms I didn't
[21:12] <Dolores7> understand so Dolores suggested I take beginners and advanced. So I took
[21:12] <Dolores7> beginner's one night, adv. one night, and taught another night. It was gruesome but
[21:12] <Dolores7> thats HER web site...but will get a lot better in the future
[21:12] <Dolores7> traci...I wish! But now I could couldn't I?
[21:13] <Earlene> Great Helen - you found a great teacher
[21:13] <Dolores7> I really think he is the best ever!
[21:13] <traciann> Go for it dolores!!!!!
[21:13] <Dolores7> My daughter Sue had never even touched gumpaste...and she did every bit as well as I - even better I thought
 [21:13] <Earlene> Dolores's daughter came last March to the class with almost no GP knowledge and did great in his class
 [21:14] <Earlene> LOL - birds of a feather
[21:14] <Dolores7> Just dedicated : )
[21:14] <Dolores7> Helen and I go back YEARS...we once drove 10 hours to the Philly candy show
[21:14] <Earlene> I just had a beginner class here and two of those gals signed up for his class
[21:14] <Dolores7> stopped to see Darlene Horner along the way even
[21:14] <Earlene> How is she Dolores?
[21:15] <Dolores7> It really doesn't matter - your expertise...with Nick
[21:15] <helen_oh> And never stopped TALKING !!!!!!
[21:15] <Dolores7> She is JUST fine Helen...come to ICES and see her!
[21:15] <Dolores7> no, we talked our way there LOL
[21:15] <Earlene> This should be a great reunion year being the 25th show
[21:16] <Dolores7> sure will be...they sure did a great show last time...I'm looking forward to it
[21:16] <SandyKS> I can't remember how to save this chat. what do I do ladies?
[21:16] <Earlene> By the way they would love to have some written memories sent to them for a special book. Send them to Betty Overman
[21:16] <Dolores7> sandy...right-click your mouse...you'll see
[21:16] <SandyKS> thanks Dolores7
[21:16] <Dolores7> choose LOGGING / enable
[21:17] <Dolores7> welcome
[21:17] <Earlene> They want some of those funny things, those trip memories, those group things and etc.
[21:17] <Dolores7> the fun last year was meeting all our friends ont he computer
[21:17] <SandyKS> my roommate handed out ear plugs ...she snored so loud
[21:17] <Dolores7> Marida...have plenty of pins ready!
[21:17] <Earlene> Nearly missed that.
[21:17] <Earlene> LOL Sandy
[21:18] <Dolores7> right Earlene...I forgot what I was going to tell them!
[21:18] <helen_oh> Earlene--you mean like when Doloreswould haul ten peoplein a van???
[21:18] <Marida> Hey, Dolores, our president, Kim Fess, says that is illegal!! I just bought them for you, Earlene, Lynne and Barbara and then got bombarded with requests for them. I might bring a few for my friends.
[21:18] <Dolores7> me???
[21:19] <Earlene> Or making flowers in a motor home on the way home because of an order that went out in three days.
[21:19] <Dolores7> you are right Marida...I know
[21:19] <traciann> says what is illegal???
[21:19] <Dolores7> to sell if you don't have a booth
[21:19] <Marida> To sell pins at the convention. I didn't do that anyway.
[21:19] <traciann> oh...gotcha...
[21:19] <Earlene> Hey we loved them - and so did everyone else - they wanted ours
[21:20] <traciann> yeah...cuz you sold them afterwards, right?
[21:20] <SandyKS> just sell them afterwards over the e-mail like you did this year.
[21:20] <Dolores7> did I do that helen?
[21:20] <SandyKS> I love my pin
[21:20] <TrishCA> How many days is convention?
[21:20] <Marida> I had a lot of requests for them and am still getting inquiries.
[21:20] <Dolores7> can't sell at ICES...SO many people would be doing it and it would get NO fun quick
[21:20] <Earlene> We go on Tuesday and don't come back until the following Monday
[21:20] <Dolores7> Thurs - Sunday night...officially LOL
[21:21] <Dolores7> we start on Monday or Tuesday
[21:21] <Earlene> To much to do, see, talk, visit, talk, and talk.
[21:21] <helen_oh> I could tell good stories if Iwould remember??????
[21:21] <LynneCA1> traci, be sure to stay for sunday nite sharing!! that's a must!
[21:21] <SandyKS> my daughter is waiting for the computer so I'd better say good night.
[21:21] <Dolores7> There are wonderful tours...thats how I really got to know Darlene Horner...on a bus for an hour
[21:21] <Earlene> Night Sandy
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[21:22] <CarolAnnTX> It's a real pretty neat pin, I love mine.
[21:22] <Dolores7> And Georgina Johnson and many others
[21:22] <Earlene> Even standing in line. You just take the time to meet a new decorator.
[21:22] <Marida> My husband wants to go to the one in Nashville. We have been there before.
[21:22] <Dolores7> a great pin! I still have mine too
[21:22] <Dolores7> right...everyone talks and is so nice
[21:22] <LynneCA1> oh yes, so do i still have mine
[21:22] <Dolores7> We'll be figuring our something to wear so we'll know each other - soon
[21:22] <Marida> Lynne, can you come this year?
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 [21:23] <LynneCA1> don't know for sure. depends on how much i spend on mini classes in june
[21:23] <ShirleyR> wb Shirley
[21:23] <Dolores7> hope you can Lynne...haven't seen you in years!
[21:23] <Marida> How ar away is that for you?
[21:23] <LynneCA1> i'm trying to decide if it's cheaper to drive or fly :)
[21:24] <CarolAnnTX> How about a special t shirt on a certain day.
[21:24] <Dolores7> other end of the USA Marida
[21:24] <Dolores7> fly Lynne
[21:24] <LynneCA1> right dolores
[21:25] <Dolores7> I think we better wear a pin or something
[21:25] <Earlene> I was standing in line in Hershey, PA I think. So I struck up a conversation with the woman and her son in front of me. They were first timers and we were chatting about all of the things they had to look forward to at the show. I asked them their names and then they asked mine. I thought they were going into a panic. They said I was famous. LOL Wanted to know what I was doing in line. I told them at ICES we are all equals, beginners, ba
[21:25] <Dolores7> It would take 3 days to get there driving Lynne
[21:25] <Earlene> decorators and etc. We are all there to learn.
[21:25] <Marida> Dolores-- can you find some place like you did last year for us to meet? Some people actually missed that also. Maybe we figured it out too late.
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[21:25] <traciann> doesn't everyone wear some type on name tag or something at least??
[21:25] <Dolores7> LOL...Earlene...that happened to me too...I got in the elevator with my cake and there was BKeith. He goes "Dolores McCann!!"
[21:25] <Earlene> Maybe we can get Jeannie or Ruth to suggest a place for us to meet. I will try to remember to email them this week and ask
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[21:26] <Earlene> Right traciann after you register
[21:26] <LynneCA1> i know it would take at least 3 days, but i can take soooo much more and bring more back. if several of us share driving etc it might not be so bad
[21:26] <Dolores7> YES...we must just start earlier this time marida...need someone to tell us a good meeting place tho I think...who knows the hotel
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[21:26] <Marida> I think that would be easier then trying to wear something special. if we set a time we could all be there. tht is what we did a couple of times last year.
[21:27] <Earlene> A must is to pack an empty fold up piece of luggage for taking all the extra stuff back with you
[21:27] <Dolores7> good idea Earlene...do that - great
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[21:27] <Dolores7> true Maida...we have so much junk on you can't see a pin LOL
[21:27] <Dolores7> I'm going to bring that roll-cart from last year. That was the best!
[21:28] <Earlene> If you and I and anyone else who has a web site puts the same location and time down then maybe we can actually find one another
[21:28] <Marida> There are about 50 of those pins out there but not all of them will be coming to ICES.
[21:28] <traciann> good idea dolores!!
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[21:28] <traciann> marida, are the pins still available??
[21:28] <Earlene> Mine was so loaded I broke a wheel. :<(
[21:28] <Dolores7> that is a super idea Earlene! Lets say we decide within 2-3 months instead of waiting...just need the meeting place
[21:28] <TrishCA> I But after gas a extra milage on your car...flying would be cheaper and faster
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[21:29] <TrishCA> I would think Lynne
[21:29] <Marida> No, I probably can get a few more if you all want them. I don't want to seel them at convention, though. I have had a few people email me so I could order a few more. They are really nice pins.
[21:29] <Dolores7> people would SEE that pin...strangers came up to me and asked me where I got it all the time
[21:29] <Earlene> I will email Jeannie and Ruth next week and see if they can get it scheduled for us early
[21:29] <ReneeS> go thru Priceline.com , we got coast to coast tickets for $170
[21:29] <Earlene> Maybe they can even find a room for us
[21:29] <ReneeS> we swear by Priceline, never get tickets elsewhere again
[21:29] <Dolores7> traci...and helen...driving is cheapest for us
[21:30] <Marida> Renee-- are you planning on going to ICES this year?
[21:30] <ReneeS> yes, Marida
[21:30] <ReneeS> sometime in august right?
[21:30] <Dolores7> oops traci in Cincy left already
[21:30] <traciann> well i surely wouldn't fly!! i'd spend longer at the airport!!
[21:30] <Earlene> Driving is better if you are close enough - especially if you buy much. Just to far for some of us to drive this year
[21:30] <traciann> oh...hehe!!!!
[21:30] <CarolAnnTX> Those carts are neat I filled mine up a couple of times, Carolyn and just stuff things in where they would fit,
[21:30] <traciann> sorry dolores
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[21:31] <Dolores7> go to www.ices.org and you can see all dates, forms for the show etc.
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[21:31] <Dolores7> its only about 4 hours for me I think
[21:31] <Earlene> It would be two days for us
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[21:31] <Dolores7> I saw she was gone traci...but I wish it was so close for you!
[21:31] <Marida> August 10-13.
[21:31] <ReneeS> thanks
[21:32] <Earlene> The next three years are all a long ways away
[21:32] <Dolores7> Detroit will be a good place for tours too.
[21:32] <TrishCA> I'll have to check out priceline , Rennee,,,thanks!
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[21:32] <traciann> marida...should i email you if i'm interested in a pin then?
[21:32] <LynneCA1> agreeded trish
[21:32] <Earlene> She is the only one who has them traciann
[21:33] <Earlene> They are beautiful.
[21:33] <Dolores7> I still have that pict. of the pin on if you all want me to post it again?
[21:33] <Marida> Yeah, Traci-do that. I will call and order a dozen or so tomorrow so I will have them before convention.
[21:33] <ReneeS> trishCA, find out what the going rates are , (like at cheaptickets) and then undercut that on priceline
[21:33] <Marida> Dolores--go ahead and do it and then I will order some before convention. thanks. you are a doll.
[21:33] <sgr> ShirleyR, just got back are you logging
[21:33] <Dolores7> ok
[21:33] <ShirleyR> yes jean I am
[21:34] <sgr> could you send it to me later
[21:34] <ShirleyR> sure can jean
[21:34] <TrishCA> Thanks Rennee :)
[21:34] <sgr> thanks again, Shirley
[21:34] <Dolores7> shirley...please send me the log again. I forgot to log until just when you sent the copy/paste file up
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[21:34] <traciann> yes dolores--i would like to see a pic...i don't recall seeing one before!
[21:34] <Marida> It is going to be in DC in a few years--you all come—come to my house?
[21:34] <LynneCA1> renee, do you have to book way ahead to get those good prices?
[21:34] <traciann> marida....count me in as reservation #1
[21:34] <ShirleyR> ok Dolores7 ..will do!
[21:34] <Dolores7> ok Marida...fun!
[21:35] <ReneeS> no, got one 1 week before my fly date!
[21:35] <Earlene> We;ll be there Marida - shall we bring our airmattresses.
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[21:35] <sgr> you'll have to rent one of those huge tents Marida. LOL
[21:35] <Marida> Okay, Traci, I will. I hope I saved the inquires Ihavegotten the last couple of weeks.
[21:35] <ReneeS> she's got a nice big house too, i''ll vouch for that!
[21:35] <traciann> lynne.as far as i understand priceline, you tell themwhat you want to pay, then they tell you if it's ok...but if they agree,then you MUST buy..you can't back out...does that sound right renee?
[21:35] <Dolores7> Helen...are you going????
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[21:36] <traciann> oh marida...i meant i'd reserve a room at your house!!!hehe!! but i'll reserve a pin too...hehe
[21:36] <Marida> Before we moved to where we are so I could get legal, wewere right across the bridge from where the convention will be. I'd love tohave you come.
[21:36] <LynneCA1> traci is going to have lots of company in august :)
[21:36] <ReneeS> yes, that is and you can't go in real low and keep uppingit if they don't accept , you can only do it once for one date anddestination
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[21:36] <ReneeS> if they turn you down you have to change either your datesor airport destination
[21:37] <traciann> lynne...hehe...i'm actually thinking of stayingthere..for convenience...
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[21:37] <LynneCA1> not when trish & i pile in on you :)
[21:37] <helen_oh> Iwill have to go with marilyn she won't let me out
[21:37] <Marida> Some of the airlines are giving ICES people a discount. I almost went free last year--what with senior citizen discount etc.
[21:37] <jamesdean1> hi all
[21:37] <Dolores7> hi jamesdean...hi, we are having a scheduled cake decorating chat - enjoy
[21:37] <CarolAnnTX> We all could have a big slumber party.
[21:37] <ShirleyR> hi jamesdean1
[21:38] <jamesdean1> thanx
[21:38] <Dolores7> i fall asleep at slumber parties...like right now LOL
[21:38] <Dolores7> its almost 11pm
[21:38] <LynneCA1> you turn into a pumpkin at midnight?? :)
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[21:39] <Dolores7> I do...I get sleepy
[21:39] <Marida> We'll think of something. Dolores, I have to leave. If you put that pin on just tell them to email me if they want one. Thanks.
[21:39] <Earlene> Well I must do something brand new tomorrow. I don't know how this one is going to come out. But I guess a little sleep would help.
[21:39] <Dolores7> well...I get up at 5am too
[21:39] <LynneCA1> since i slept most of the day, i'm not doing to bad now :)
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[21:39] <Dolores7> ok Marida...I'll do that in a few mintes if its online
[21:39] <ShirleyNV> Dolores, before I go, when is the next Chat, and topic?
[21:39] <Earlene> I have to sculpt a golden retreiver out of fondant/gumpaste to go on top of a grooms cake
[21:40] <Dolores7> Me too...signing off. Tell us about your cake next week earlene...please
[21:40] <Dolores7> next Tues...every Tuesday from now on
[21:40] <ReneeS> what's the best combo of fondant and gumpaste for flowers, the proportions?
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[21:40] <Dolores7> oooh we have a candy mold for one
[21:40] <CarolAnnTX> Nite Dolores, had a great time thanks!
[21:40] <Dolores7> nite all
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[21:41] <traciann> apparently jamesdean wasn't interested in cake chattign...hehe
[21:41] <Earlene> I should have a picture on but this time next week. I have some catching up to do on the web site. If any of you want a picture printed of the butterfly cake you better do it now. I will be removing that one the first of the week
[21:41] <ShirleyR> lol traciann
[21:41] <helen_oh> nite dolores!!
[21:41] <traciann> thanks earlene!
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[21:41] <Earlene> Night all - see you next week.
[21:42] <LynneCA1> 8,8.8,2 so 8,10lon8,3g s8,7ee 8,6you8,2 ag8,10ain 8,8.8,10 LynneCA1 8,8.
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[21:42] <ShirleyR> nite ShirleyNV
[21:42] <ShirleyR> night Earlene
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[21:42] <CarolAnnTX> Nite Earlene thanks!
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[21:42] <CarolAnnTX> Nite all.
[21:42] <helen_oh> goodnight all!!!!
[21:43] <ShirleyR> nite CarolAnnTX
[21:43] <ShirleyR> night helen_oh
[21:43] <ReneeS> bye!
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[21:43] <TrishCA> did everyone just leave or get booted?
[21:43] <MindyMc> I think they all left
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[21:44] <ShirleyR> they left TrishCA
[21:44] <traciann> they sure went quick!!
[21:44] <TrishCA> they sure were
[21:45] <MindyMc> I found lowes website. I'm looking for a 3 bowl sink right now
[21:45] <ShirleyR> Mindy when you find one let me know what the cost is please
[21:46] <TrishCA> Even Lynne's gone and she never leaves with out goodbyes
[21:46] <MindyMc> Ok,
[21:46] <ShirleyR> thanks Mindy
[21:47] <TrishCA> OKay ..so what have I learned tonight...that I want a digital camara and I need to go to convention....lol
[21:47] <MindyMc> I'm not having much luck.
[21:47] <MindyMc> right on trish.
[21:47] <traciann> who all here is planning on going??
[21:47] <TrishCA> I
[21:48] <traciann> ditto
[21:48] <ShirleyR> not me..I cant afford it :(
[21:48] <MindyMc> too expensive for me to go. especially since I quit my job. :-0
[21:48] <traciann> well i can't REALLY afford it..but unfortunately that never stops me...
[21:48] <traciann> mindy.i think i'll be getting a second job...hehe
[21:49] <traciann> temporarily of course
[21:49] <MindyMc> you're too close not to go traci. that's like it was for me last year
[21:49] <ShirleyR> If I cant shop..I dont go!!! LOL
[21:49] <traciann> did you go last year mindy??
[21:49] <MindyMc> yes
[21:49] <TrishCA> I remember she had a good time and alot of great buys!
[21:49] <traciann> when there's so many people in here it's hard for me to keep straight what everybody says!
[21:49] <MindyMc> I know, I have that problem too traci
[21:50] <traciann> and words of advice for a first timer besides take lots of money??
[21:50] <traciann> is jeannie with us or just logging??
[21:50] <MindyMc> yes, I had a great time. try to get sleep whenever possible.
[21:50] <TrishCA> LOL...she told me last year when she returned I throw 1,000+1 questions at her when she returned
[21:50] <MindyMc> I had a terrible time sleeping in the hotel. and by Sunday night, I was a zombie
[21:50] <traciann> well if trish is rooming with me i'm sure we'll be lacking sleep!!!
[21:50] <ShirleyR> well Im logging for her so she should be with us traciann ..lol
[21:51] <TrishCA> WE'll be lacking sleep
[21:51] <traciann> i'll be sure to get plenty of rest beforehand!!
[21:51] <TrishCA> LOL...I hope there is someone there to help us in the morn...as Traci and I don't do mornings well...lol
[21:51] <MindyMc> I had to leave the sunday night of sharing early because I was so tired.
[21:52] <sgr> yes, I'm back again now
[21:52] <MindyMc> LOL,
[21:52] <TrishCA> So Mindy what day or time did you start convention....Friday morning?
[21:52] <ShirleyR> wb jean
[21:52] <traciann> oh dear trish...you know how i am...we'll be late everyday!!! hehe
[21:52] <sgr> thanks Shirley
[21:53] <traciann> Hi jeannie!!! will you be able to come to convention this year?
[21:53] <MindyMc> I went wed. night
[21:53] <TrishCA> Hi Jean...wb
[21:53] <sgr> Love to Traci, but depends on the surg and how it goes, sure hope I can
[21:53] <sgr> Hi Trish
[21:53] <MindyMc> actually wed. afternoon before everything started.
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[21:54] <MindyMc> Marie took me around KC
[21:54] <TrishCA> that would be great to met ya in person
[21:54] <traciann> well jeannie!! i'm praying for you all the time!! and I do hope all goes well---because trish and i are planning on being there and we would LOVE to see you!!!!
[21:54] <TrishCA> So do the demo's and things start Thursday morn or Friday?..Traci and I are tring to figure out when to book a room for
[21:54] <MindyMc> thursday morning
[21:55] <MindyMc> or they did last year anyway.
[21:55] <TrishCA> So it really is 4 full days
[21:55] <MindyMc> yes
[21:55] <MindyMc> have they had all about it yet in the ices newsletter
[21:55] <traciann> we could leave thursday morning trish from here...
[21:55] <sgr> I really would love to meet all of you and sure hope I can, my surg. is sched for next Fr. Morning the 28th unless I get bumped do some praying then please
[21:55] <traciann> i dont't get a newsletter yet :-(
[21:56] <TrishCA> OKay so once you get your membership stuff done and pay your convention fee...are classes on top of your convention fee?
[21:56] <traciann> oh jeannie i sure will!!! i'
[21:56] <sgr> thank-you
[21:56] <MindyMc> I sure will too jeanie.
[21:57] <MindyMc> no, after you pay the registration fee to get into the convention, that's it. the demos are free
[21:57] <sgr> you are all so kind....thanks
[21:57] <ShirleyR> jean you're already on my prayer list....hope everything goes well for you
[21:57] <TrishCA> Same here kid...your in my thought especially next Friday :)
[21:58] <sgr> or I could get put in early if I have the nervous breakdown I'm expecting real soon.LOL
[21:58] <TrishCA> WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nick Lodge, Winbecklers, Colette Peter's.....Dolores, Earlene...classes free.....WOW...I better slow down my breathing...lol
 [21:58] <MindyMc> oh my, don't say that jean. :-)
 [21:58] <MindyMc> that's if you can get them trish.
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[21:59] <sgr> I would be so wonderful to be able to even sit in on one of their classes
[21:59] <sgr> I suppose you have to book a seat well ahead of time for each class
[21:59] <MindyMc> you fill out the form on which classes you want in the order of how you want them, they fill them as they get the registration fees.
[21:59] <traciann> jeannie!! don't do that....everything will be just fine!!! i know i've said it before but to worry will do you no good!! Even though i'm sure i'd do the same!! just keep your chin up dearie!!
[21:59] <MindyMc> the earlier you send in your registration, the better chance you have of getting the classes you want
[22:00] <TrishCA> any idea when reg. started?
[22:00] <MindyMc> probably now, if they have the form on the web site.
[22:00] <sgr> thanks Traci
[22:00] <traciann> i'm surprised there isn't some kind of master schedule on their website...i've looked but don't find one...maybe they send it when i send the money??
 [22:01] <sgr> do they have prices up for anything yet
[22:01] <MindyMc> I'm checking the newsletters
[22:01] <traciann> yes jeannie...registration is $105 for members early bird...hotel is $118 per night at the main hotel
[22:02] <sgr> is the hotel per rm. or per person in each room
[22:02] <MindyMc> they have the registration in the Dec issue
[22:02] <traciann> it's per room
[22:02] <MindyMc> but they still don't have the list of the demos
[22:02] <sgr> is the convention at that part. hotel
[22:02] <traciann> um...yes i'm pretty sure..
[22:03] <MindyMc> the way it talks, its connected to the convention center
[22:03] <sgr> that is certainly a big city for me, to be left alone in.LOL
[22:04] <traciann> you won't be alone jeannie!! we'll be there to look after you!
[22:04] <TrishCA> Jean I'm sorry but for the millionth time....where are you from?
[22:04] <sgr> gotta find my way out of the air-port first.LOL
[22:04] <traciann> NB Canada!!!
[22:04] <traciann> is that right jeannie???
[22:04] <traciann> or do i have you confused with susan?
[22:04] <TrishCA> You've got Traci and me and all the board friends to help you out Jean
[22:05] <sgr> New Brunswick, Canada, right Traci
[22:05] <sgr> our Walmart is probably as big as our air-port>LOL
[22:05] <traciann> hehe!!!
[22:05] <TrishCA> That's right Canada
[22:06] <traciann> i'm getting way too excited
[22:06] <MindyMc> I didn't have any luck finding the 3 bowl sink. I'll look some more tomorrow
[22:06] <TrishCA> I'm way ahead of you girl......
[22:06] <sgr> why a 3 bowl sink Mindy?
[22:06] <MindyMc> to get legal
[22:06] <traciann> oh my head is just spinning
[22:07] <ShirleyR> ok Mindy..thanks
[22:07] <sgr> what is a 3 bowl sink?
[22:07] <traciann> jeannie have you ever been to a convention before?
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[22:07] <MindyMc> you guys have a long time to wait. You're going to be a mess by the time it gets herre
[22:07] <sgr> no I haven't Traciann, last yrs. was the first I heard about them
[22:07] <MindyMc> like a regular sink but it has 3 bowls for water instead of 2
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[22:07] <TrishCA> your probaly right Mindy..lol
[22:07] <sgr> uh huh, do you need a grease trap
[22:08] <MindyMc> that's what they were saying tonight. what is a grease trap
[22:08] <traciann> well the registration fee includes a breakfast Friday morning, and a saturday banquet..which if you buy seperate tickets for those they're $25 and $45...must be some meals i hope!!!
[22:08] <TrishCA> I have no idea
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[22:08] <MindyMc> the breakfast wasn't that great. but the sat night meal was very good
[22:09] <sgr> guess it attaches under your sink somehow and holds all the grease there, not sure my husband was explaining it to me, almost had one free, just missed it
[22:09] <traciann> maybe we could skip the breakfast and go to mc'd's trish for $25 less...hehe
[22:09] <traciann> oooh jeannie..that's too bad!
[22:09] <MindyMc> how does the grease get into the trap?
[22:09] <TrishCA> I think that $105 is a great price for all they aregiving you....the airfare and the hotel would be my biggest expense outside of purchases made there
[22:10] <traciann> i think it's a good deal too!! but it's $160 if you register after july 15th
[22:10] <TrishCA> YUk...Trish doesn't much care for the eggMc'muffin...lol
[22:10] <MindyMc> yes it is trish. and on the demos, if you don't get the ones you want, or have a time free and theres someone you want to see, you can wait outside the door and if there are any seats left, you can go in
[22:10] <sgr> not sure Mindy, whether it seperates and the water goes down the drain and the grease stays so it can't clogg the pipes, yours or the cities
[22:11] <MindyMc> the convention center in Detroit is suppose to have a bunch of places to eat right close so you might be able to go out with any trouble
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[22:11] <MindyMc> at KC, there wasn't anything around,. shopping or eating places. you had to drive if you wanted to do anything
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[22:13] <TrishCA> that's not nice
[22:13] <TrishCA> Hi Isis
[22:13] <MindyMc> hi isis
[22:13] <_Isis> Hello
[22:13] <sgr> Hi isis
[22:13] <ShirleyR> hi _Isis
[22:13] <_Isis> What are we discussing tonight?
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[22:14] <ShirleyR> the convention
[22:14] <TrishCA> we're drowling over convention...lol
[22:14] <_Isis> mmmmmm I C
[22:15] <ShirleyR> well I need to go..have to call about my
grandson..Goodnight all!
[22:15] <MindyMc> well, I need to go. you all have a good night
[22:15] <MindyMc> bye bye
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[22:16] <sgr> Hope he is doing well Shirley...I'll say some prayers for him
[22:16] <sgr> Mindy sure is fast
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[22:16] <ShirleyR> thanks jean...the same for you
[22:16] <TrishCA> isn't she
 [22:16] <ShirleyR> night
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