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From Dolores
This evening we will dwell mostly on EASY candies using melted candy coatings. The best quality
coating chocolate is available in Cake and Candy supply shops. You do not need to add Paraffin or
shortening. It is ready to use as directed below. DO NOT substitute Chocolate Chips. They do not set up
the same and will not release from a candy mold. This kind of candy making takes No skill or training.
Just a few good ideas and simple recipes and you are on your way.

----------- BUSINESS TECHNIQUES FOR CAKE DECORATORS AND SELLING CAKES

How do we market our cakes? I know of no better way, than by 'word-of-mouth.' Perhaps you have a
friend or relative who works in an office or factory who would be willing to show a few of your cakes off.
Send in a few samples. This is basically advertisement. And believe me, this cheap advertising cost! I
made some cake drawings on 8x11 paper and posted them on the local Laundromat & grocery bulletin
boards. A start is all you need. People will tell each other. Most important of all, DO YOUR VERY BEST
(EVERYTIME). Make all your cakes so perfect and delicious that someone is bound to ask "Where did
you get that wonderful cake?" You will be on your way. Sure, things will be slow at first. But this is really
an advantage because you need time to learn. Expect to be slow. Take your time and do a good job. It
won't take you nearly so long after awhile.

BUSINESS FIRST: Christmas is the busiest candy making season. Easter or Halloween may be the next
busiest. Summer is very slow to non existent. But, you can 'force your market' to fit your needs to a certain
extent, if you work at it. Many of our customers make whatever they want to make, put it in a big box
and send it to offices. People buy it up. (Then they eat all the candies and need more for their families ; )
....... Once you make the candies, it is really easy to market them. Just make out a form similar to the Girl
Scout Cookie form. Take orders ahead or, if you prefer, make whatever you like and take them (or send
with a friend or relative) to large offices and factories. I know a gal who grossed $500.00 in 2 weeks at
Halloween, a teenage boy who used his money for a car down payment, a couple who made a BIG
business of it so she could stay home with the baby. Another gal who supplements her income with candy
making. Our cake club once made over $700.00 in one day. People took the pre-made candy into factories
and offices and people bought it til it was all gone.
   This was at EASTER. One successful couple does it this way: They decide what they'll make, make a
few samples to show, then he takes those into work and takes orders. They decided on a chocolate-long-
stemmed-rose for Mother's Day. This is packaged in a clear rose box with green florist tissue paper and
tied with a pretty bow. There is not much cost involved and I think they sold these for around $3.00 per
package. The rose is poured into a candy mold on a long stick, wrapped in florist tape and a silk leaf
added. Whatever you choose, people are so busy that when they find out someone is willing to bring it to
them, they are happy to buy it.
   BRANDS: We carry Merckens dipping/coating chocolate at Sugarcraft. (It is the demanded brand by
our candy makers). Another pretty good brand is Nestles or Guittard (who makes flavored chocolate).
There are a few other brands available. Some taste 'waxy' and some are 'gritty.' But you should do a 'taste
test' yourself and decide which you like the most. All are similar in cost. The cost depends a lot on your
area. Here a 1 lb package $2.45. Larger quantity bags are cheaper. People who make a lot of it buy 50 lb
cases of it.

WHAT TO CHARGE: These candies sell in my area for around $7.00 per 1 lb box packaged. Or, for the
chocolate lolly pops, charge according to size.
PACKAGE IT PRETTY: Packaging will sell your candies! Dress it up with pretty wrappings and a nice
bow.

HANDLING: Melting chocolate: Melt in the top of a double-boiler or in the microwave (on defrost a
minute at a time, stirring between minutes). Do not get it more than luke warm and do not get any
moisture or water in it or it will get hard instead of melting. (Can be fixed if you do tho- use Paramount
Crystals, a flaky shortening. Melt in Microwave and add as much as needed.) Next, I have a few simple
recipes........

Easy Peppermint Crunch: (This is hard tack candy with food coloring and peppermint flavoring added). It
is not crushed candy canes. They would soften. Peppermint Crunch is available from Sugarcraft or other
cake & candy shops. I think every family in this are has a batch of this during the Holidays as much of
it as we go through. And sooo easy too.

2 lb White chocolate, 1 lb Peppermint crunch (it's pretty - red & green) Melt chocolate, add Peppermint
and pour out on wax paper covered tray. Lay a piece of wax paper over the top and press it down smooth
and even. Chill in freezer compartment or let set up at room temperature. Break apart. TIPS: You can
also use this in candy molds. It is pretty. Wrap it or place in tiny candy bags if you are putting it in a box
of candy or it will make ALL the candy in the box taste
like peppermint. VARIATIONS: Substitute other crunches for the Peppermint, such as Malted Milk
Crunch, Tiny Krispie Crunch, Toffee Crunch, Peanut Brittle, Coconut, etc.

Coconut Bon Bons---Only 2 ingredients! 3/4 cup Light corn syrup; or more for softer candy, 2 1/2 cups
Dry Macaroon Coconut, NEED Coating chocolate; milk or white, as preferred Heat the corn syrup
slightly. Do not boil. Add coconut. Stir to blend; let mixture stand 1 hour or more. Roll into 1 to 1 1/2"
balls. Place balls on wax-paper lined cookie sheet. Let stand while melting chocolate. These can either be
dipped or used in a candy mold. They are pretty (and good) dipped in white or pastel chocolate and
drizzled on top with pink or red chocolate. HINT: Several different candies can be CODED by using
different shaped candy molds and keeping a list.

BASIC CREAM CENTER (This is SOOOO delicious!) 2 1/2 lb Instant Mix Dry Candy Fondant, 1/2 cup
Whipping cream, 1/2 cup Butter; softened, Vanilla or other flavorings or oils (I use Lorann oil flavorings
in the tiny vials) DIRECTIONS: Combine Instant Mix Dry Candy Fondant with the softened butter; blend
well and let stand for several hours or overnight. Knead Fondant and butter mixture until creamy. Heat
whipping cream to the boiling point. DO NOT BOIL.
Add cream with vanilla or other flavoring to fondant., Cool slightly and knead smooth. Different flavors
may taste in the many variations of this recipe. Shape into balls and use as centers in your candy mold,
following instructions previously given for filled candies.
VARIATIONS: Combine the above recipe with nuts, flavors, coloring, fruit etc. Can you think of more?

CANDY COATED PRETZELS: Pretzels, of any sort, make a nice addition to that special party. They can
be dipped in a variety of color and flavor coating chocolate and rolled in sprinkles. The large straight
pretzel can be dipped in melted chocolate (half-way down looks nice) and rolled in sprinkles or nuts.

DIPPED DRIED FRUITS: Dried apricots or other dried fruits make delicious and healthy ways to coax
small children into eating their fruit. Usually fruits are dipped only about halfway, leaving part of it bare.

CHOCOLATE-DIPPED POTATO CHIPS: Melt chocolate coating and dip potato chips halfway.

CHOCOLATE COVERED BANANAS: Insert a sucker stick of appropriate strength. Freeze the banana.
Dip in melted chocolate coating (halfway, leaving some exposed). Quickly roll in crushed nuts; chill.

THE LOG:
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<MindyMo>   hi Dolores7
[Dolores7]   Hi everyone
<KathyMBNC>   hi  dolores7
<Sugarfairies4>   hi, dolores, long time no see
[Dolores7]   I've been here for a couple of weeks...you must have missed it ;-)
[Dolores7]   We sure had a successful chat last week!
<Sugarfairies4>   i havent chatted since you were on aol
[Dolores7]   you haven't! WOW! Now THAT has been awhile...nice to have you.
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[Dolores7]   Hi Renee
<ReneeS>   hi everyone!
<Sugarfairies4>   its Lourdes, dont know if you remember me, friend of Diane shavkin from NY
[Dolores7]   Sugarfairies...what was your name on aol?
<Sugarfairies4>   L2jlu2
[Dolores7]   OH! YES of course I remember you Lourdes!!!
[Dolores7]   right
[Dolores7]   so nice to have you on our new chats....now everyone can join these
<Sugarfairies4>   I finally was able to get the downloads right
[Dolores7]   Good for you...gets easier
<CarolAnnTX>   hi,dee, we have crip on here tonight!
[Dolores7]   Hi Carol Ann...what is 'crip'?
[Dolores7]   L2...remember Carol Ann?
[Dolores7]   Mindy is usually first on ;o)
<Sugarfairies4>   Yes, i remember Carol Ann, its nice to see the old gang still here
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<mimi2>   Hi everybody!
[Dolores7]   Tracie was on too...anyone else so far from AOL days?
[Dolores7]   Hi Mimi
<MindyMo>   that's cause I dont have a life.  ;-)
<traciep>   she's either here or on Ebay
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[Dolores7]   hee hee...I have too much...want some of mine?
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[Dolores7]   Hello Marida and Sandy
<mimi2>   Hi Dolores, I'm glad y'all aren't on AOL any more!
<SandyKS>   Hi everyone
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<Marida>   Hello.
[Dolores7]   MEEE too! I do have aol but never hardly use it
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<MindyMo>   Hi Sandy,  how are you doing
[Dolores7]   Hi Helen
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<SandyKS>   I'm fine Mindy.
[Dolores7]   Hi Marrisa
<MindyMo>   wow,  it's filling up fast
<helen_oh>   hi everyone and dolores
<Sugarfairies4>   too much headaches with Aol went to verizon hubby works for them
[Dolores7]   wait til we get 50 people like we use to on aol! LOL
<MarissaT>   hi traciep!
<VickyLJ>   That would be some fast reading then. LOL
[Dolores7]   it surely was
<Sugarfairies4>   LOL
<MarissaT>   hi dolores and everyone
<traciep>   couldn't keep up last week
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[Dolores7]   thanks sandy ;o)
[Dolores7]   Hi scsc
<SandyKS>   I was hoping that was the topic.  LOL
<scsc>   howdy
[Dolores7]   Topic: "CANDY MAKING AND CAKE DECORATING WITH BUSINESS TIPS"
[Dolores7]   ----------- BUSINESS TECHNIQUES FOR CAKE DECORATORS AND SELLING CAKES
[Dolores7]   Don't forget to turn your LOG on
[Dolores7]   HOW DO WE MARKET OUR CAKES? I KNOW OF NO BETTER WAY, THAN BY 'WORD-OF-MOUTH.' PERHAPS YOU HAVE A FRIEND OR RELATIVE WHO WORKS IN AN OFFICE OR FACTORY WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SHOW A FEW OF YOUR CAKES OFF. SEND IN A FEW SAMPLES. THIS IS BASICALLY ADVERTISEMENT.
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[Dolores7]   Oh - L2...now we could post the whole chat at once if we wanted to!
<LisaOh>   Hello
[Dolores7]   Hi Lisa- Neighbor ;o)
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<helen_oh>   hi lisa
[Dolores7]   CarolA. is back
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<Sugarfairies4>   wow, thtat great
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[Dolores7]   AND BELIEVE ME, THIS IS CHEAP ADVERTISING! WHEN I FIRST STARTED SELLING CAKES, I MADE SOME CAKE DRAWINGS ON 8X11 PAPER AND POSTED THEM ON THE LOCAL LAUNDROMAT & GROCERY BULLETIN BOARDS.
<LisaOh>   hey hey
[Dolores7]   Hi Kathy and Ejulia
<LisaOh>   now...if I want to log this, hit log channel to file???
<Ejulia>   hello
[Dolores7]   Oh...Ejulia is also my neighbor
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<LisaOh>   Wait I missed the first part   ugh
<SandyKS>   hi Kampy
<MindyMo>   Marie,  hi there
[Dolores7]   Lisa - Pirch or IRC???
<LisaOh>   hey Chrissy
[Dolores7]   Hi Kampy
<LisaOh>   Pirch
<KampyCake>   Hey! Good  crowd again!  Hello everyone
[Dolores7]   A START IS ALL YOU NEED. PEOPLE WILL TELL EACH OTHER. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, DO YOUR VERY BEST (EVERYTIME). MAKE ALL YOUR CAKES SO PERFECT AND DELICIOUS THAT SOMEONE IS BOUND TO ASK
<KampyCake>   Sandy, we have the oven on the truck!  Will bring it tomorrow if you like.
<KathyMBNC>   is anyone having trouble seeing the conversation,besidesme
<SandyKS>   I'll be home Marie
[Dolores7]   I see a LOT of conversation
[Dolores7]   "WHERE DID YOU GET THAT WONDERFUL CAKE?" YOU WILL BE ON YOUR WAY. EXPECT TO BE SLOW. TAKE YOUR TIME AND DO A GOOD JOB. IT WON'T TAKE YOU NEARLY SO LONG TO COMPLETE A CAKE AFTER AWHILE. SURE, THINGS WILL BE SLOW AT FIRST.
<SandyKS>   there is a chance of rain tomorrow, cover it up Marie
<CarolAnnTX>   i got booted, boy, that hurt,ouchie!
[Dolores7]   kicked hard Carol?
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<KampyCake>   We have the camper shell on - hope I don't have to drive in the rain all the way
[Dolores7]   THIS IS REALLY AN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE YOU NEED TIME TO LEARN. BEFORE YOU GET REALLY BUSY IN YOUR BUSINESS IS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE SOME CLASSES.
<CarolAnnTX>   yea
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[Dolores7]   LATER YOU WON'T HAVE TIME. LEARN AS MANY TECHNIQUES AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU CAN. AND PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.
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[Dolores7]   Hope we aren't getting the boot for having such a crowd!
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<KampyCake>   did you guys know that the BIG debate is on
<VickyLJ>   CarolATX how did you change your name?
<LisaOh>   yep, its on my tv now
[Dolores7]   I'll hear ALLLL about that from DH
<mimi2>   Taking sample cakes to florists and catering managers really helped me get started
[Dolores7]   Name changes...it thinks she is still on under her old name until she completely closes IRC and re opens
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<KathyMBNC>   hi tiGl
[Dolores7]   Mimi...good idea! And what works one place may work another
<VickyLJ>   oh i see
<LisaOh>   Dolores....what did you say was cheap advertising at the very beginning???
<CarolAnnTX>   davey is picking on me,i have irc and pirch too
[Dolores7]   I STARTED THIS WHEN MY KIDS WERE SMALL. JOYCE WAS A BABY. NOW SHE DOES ALL OUR CAKES FOR OUR BAKERY.
[Dolores7]   Because ANY advertising I do in newspapers cost far more than one little cake
[Dolores7]   Consider giving away a cake as advertisement
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[Dolores7]   . I AM LUCKY I GET TO SEE THEM SO OFTEN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN TOO.
<KampyCake>   Sandy, I'm leaving the chat now - have to see about chickens and other stuff.  I'll call you later to get instructions on how to find you.  The number I have is the one in the ICES directory.  Is that right?
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[Dolores7]   hi Nita
<LisaOh>   okay, thanks!
<CarolAnnTX>   this pirch name.
<Nita_B>   Hi everyone!
<SandyKS>   that's correct Marie
[Dolores7]   MAYBE THIS IS PARTLY BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO STAY HOME WITH THEM AS THEY GREW UP.
<KampyCake>   OK, talk to ya later.  By all.
<SandyKS>   I'll be off computer by 9:15
[Dolores7]   MAYBE THIS MAKES A SPECIAL CLOSENESS (AS WELL AS KEEPING THEM BUSY AND OUT OF TROUBLE). I'D DO IT AGAIN IN A HEARTBEAT! I WOULD DO WITHOUT ALL THE LUXURIES TO BE WITH THEM.
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[Dolores7]   I WOULD GET UP EARLY, DO MY CAKE ORDERS AND THEN IT WOULD BE OFF TO THE POOL OR THE LAKE ON OUR BIKES ALL DAY
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[Dolores7]    I HAD HOURS JUST 4-6 PM AND THAT WAS WHEN PEOPLE PICKED UP CAKES. OF COURSE SATURDAYS WERE SPENT WITH WEDDING APPOINTMENTS.
[Dolores7]   Hi Renee
<ReneeS>   if i get kicked out one more time i'm going to bed!
<Marida>   Renee, you are having trouble.
[Dolores7]   Am I going too fast?
<mimi2>   no
<ReneeS>   it's aol,
<SandyKS>   I think you're doing fine Dolores
<VickyLJ>   Your doing fine Dolores
[Dolores7]   I wish Perch counted how many are in here
[Dolores7]   thanks...
[Dolores7]   IN THOSE DAYS BRIDES ALWAYS SHOWED UP TOO. I KEPT WEDDING ORNAMENTS AT HOME FOR THEM TO CHOOSE FROM. NOT OVER 10-20. SOME I ASSEMBLED TOGETHER AND SOME I BOUGHT ON SPECIALS.
<Marida>   19 are in here.
[Dolores7]   SOME PEOPLE HAVE BUSINESS CARDS MADE UP. BUT BE CAREFUL WHO YOU HAND THEM OUT TO IF YOU INCLUDE YOUR FULL NAME AND HOME ADDRESS.
<CarolAnnTX>   i went to a friends shopp and did a demo, after i finished she invited me to stay and watch her make fluffy ining, i tripped on a down step and fell on my right elbow!
[Dolores7]   Marida...did you hand count?
[Dolores7]   today CarolAnn?
<Marida>   Yes.
[Dolores7]   thank you
[Dolores7]   I KNOW THAT SOME HUSBANDS SHOW PICTURES AND TAKE ORDERS WHERE THEY WORK. THIS IS ESPECIALLY GOOD TO DO WHEN THERE IS A HOLIDAY.
<Marida>   I'm listening to a lot of BULL from the tV in the other room!!
<CarolAnnTX>   last thurs. and i got operated on yesterday morning.
[Dolores7]   OFFER 1-2 DESIGNS. YOU CAN DO A LOT OF WORK AHEAD SUCH AS FLOWERS ETC. SO THAT YOU CAN PUT OUT SEVERAL CAKES. HUSBANDS LOVE TO HAVE THE CAKE DELIVERED TO THEM.
<mimi2>   LOL, Marida, me too
<SandyKS>   I don't trust my husband to take orders, but he does deliver them to his office sometimes. I'm the only one who take orders at our house.
[Dolores7]   oh my! Carol! I do hope you had fun til the accident?
<LisaOh>   do you use only royal icing flowers then?
<traciep>   my fiance sold a ton of stuff for me at his work.  he's great at that
<helen_oh>   I agree marida medicare!!!!
[Dolores7]   I never trusted my hubby to do either. He gets SO nervous. I wouldn't even let him drive delivering a cake
<Marida>   Helen--email me tomorrow!
[Dolores7]   No Lisa...I use mostly buttercream, why?
<VickyLJ>   Can you use buttervream icing to make the flowers and let them dry?
<LisaOh>   just cause y9ou said you make the flowers ahead of time
<SandyKS>   My husband is my mine driver when delivering cakes. My 16 year old daughter is learning how to drive with cakes in the van too now.
<ReneeS>   marida, got you some more of that stabilizer, hope i remember to bring it tomorrow
<VickyLJ>   Then how do you store them?
<CarolAnnTX>   i got offered a teaching job at her shop, i guess i'm on hold for a few months
[Dolores7]   I do. But I add cream whip icing base so they crust more too.
<helen_oh>   ok marida
[Dolores7]   I make them on Mon-Tues. to use on Friday
<Marida>   Great, Renee, I can use it!!
<LisaOh>   cream whip icing?
<mimi2>   Sandy KS..you must have nerves of steel
[Dolores7]   That is stuff we have in our catalog. Contains gum and makes icing crust more.
<LisaOh>   okay
<SandyKS>   I was on the end of my ropes the day I let her go back for groom's cake.  it was raining too. seems like it took her forever to get back and it's only 1/4 mile away.
[Dolores7]   IF flowers are very fragile - like daisies - then I DO always use royal i.
<VickyLJ>   how much would you use in a batch of icing Dolores?
[Dolores7]   For a cup I'd use about a teaspoon
<SandyKS>   A
<VickyLJ>   WOW THAT ISN"T MUCH AT ALL
<VickyLJ>   SORRY HIT CAPS LOCK
<Marida>   Dolores, what is cream whip icing base?
[Dolores7]   doesn't take much. IF it breaks down your icing, add a little more p. sugar
<SandyKS>   When I make buttercream flowers to dry, they start to smell rancid after a week. does stabilizer help prevent that?
[Dolores7]   I don't make them over a week ahead. They also change colors. I start on Monday to do all for the weekend
<Marida>   Sandy, I don't make buttercream flowers to keep for a long time.  I make royal if I need them for later.
[Dolores7]   MOTHER'S DAY IS ESPECIALLY FRUITFUL IF YOU TAKE ORDERS AND DELIVER THE CAKES.
[Dolores7]   I like to make roses using buttercream. You couldn't bite or chew a big rose made with royal.
<SandyKS>   I take orders up to Wednesday for Friday pickups. AFter that the customer pays extra.  I'd never know what flowers I would need.
<SandyKS>   I'd love to make the rose box cakes for mother's day but how do you advertise to get orders if you're not legal?
[Dolores7]   Sandy...I'm talking about wedding cakes more. Never made up flowers ahead for others. I made them right on the cake.
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<SandyKS>   OK I understand now Dolores
[Dolores7]   Now my daughter makes hers all white then just airbrushes them in needed colors as she goes
<Earlene>   nick/ pwdsugar
[Dolores7]   Sandy...have someone take one to their workplace
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<ReneeS>   my problem is figuring out how to mix airbrush colors to get the colors you need, say like periwinkle.
[Dolores7]   I forget...been a looong time since I made the small cakes
<Nita_B>   Me too...Renee.
<ReneeS>   how do you get the off colors?  they don't make those colors in a bottle.... sage greeen, buttercup, etc.
[Dolores7]   Didn't we discuss periwinkle recently? I forget what they used for that
<Marida>   Renee, did you get the wheel at convention?
<pwdsugar>   Hello room
<SandyKS>   hello Earlene
<VickyLJ>   Hi
<Marida>   Hi, Earlene.
<Nita_B>   Hi Earlene
<CarolAnnTX>   hi pwd ,crip,
<mimi2>   Hi Earlene
<helen_oh>   hi earlene
[Dolores7]   airbrushing...I mix 2 dif colors in the cup. Not so easy. May need to do those colors special by themselves with tinted icing I think.
<LisaOh>   hi earlene
<ReneeS>   i know how to mix up those colors using paste, but i wasn't sure with the liquid air brush colors
<pwdsugar>   I always used some little bottles to mix the off colors in so that I had more for later.
<SandyKS>   anybody have any idea where we how didn't get to go to convention can get one of these color wheels you guys keep telling about.
[Dolores7]   Hi earlene...so much going on I didn't see you come in the door!!!
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[Dolores7]   Hi Margo
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<helen_oh>   what about mixing airbrush colors in asmall jar?
[Dolores7]   CANDY MAKING FOR MONEYTHIS EVENING WE WILL DWELL MOSTLY ON EASY CANDIES USING MELTED CANDY COATINGS.
<margo_>   Hi all just got home from track meet what have I missed, I forgot the topic for tonight
<pwdsugar>   Rosemary and I just got back from supper
<pwdsugar>   We took her out for some huge Texas size barbeque ribs
<ReneeS>   i'll have to play with the airbrush colors.  I think there is a market for new paste colors and airbrush colors, I'm sick of the basic colors
<CarolAnnTX>   carolyn calls me crip
[Dolores7]   You could I guess. But in most cases, when people request a certain special color it is for a wedding cake and I just colored the icing and made them.
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[Dolores7]   Now I know what 'crip' is LOL
[Dolores7]   Rosemary is with you Earlene..
<margo_>   I had alot of troulbe mixing in white for my airbrush, any suggestions?
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<pwdsugar>   You can get those color wheels in an art supply store.
<helen_oh>   When is sweetest day?
<pwdsugar>   Right Dolores - she is sitting here finding out how this chat room works
[Dolores7]   put some color, then some white, then more color...and you have to shake it in the AB cup too...gets all over your fingers
[Dolores7]   Tell her I said hi!!!
<margo_>   sweetest day is the 21st
[Dolores7]   THE BEST QUALITY COATING CHOCOLATE IS AVAILABLE IN CAKE AND CANDY SUPPLY SHOPS.
[Dolores7]   Good candy time - sweetest day
<traciep>   bosses day is oct. 16
<CarolAnnTX>   oh, wow, hi, to rosemary
<helen_oh>   merkins!!!!!!!!!!!
[Dolores7]   YOU DO NOT NEED TO ADD PARAFFIN OR SHORTENING. IT IS READY TO USE AS DIRECTED BELOW.
[Dolores7]   bosses day...hmmmm I wonder if they'll think of me <g>
[Dolores7]   DO NOT SUBSTITUTE CHOCOLATE CHIPS. THEY DO NOT SET UP THE SAME AND WILL NOT RELEASE FROM A CANDY MOLD.
<pwdsugar>   You really think they think of you as the boss Dee?
[Dolores7]   THIS KIND OF CANDY MAKING TAKES <NO> SKILL OR TRAINING. JUST A FEW GOOD IDEAS AND SIMPLE RECIPES AND YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY
<pwdsugar>   Aren't you just Mom no matter what you say
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[Dolores7]   Yes I do for a few who goof off. Most of the time we're just a team. But when they act up Sue makes me do the 'talking'
[Dolores7]   To Sue..yes but there are several others now. But we all really feel like family.
<helen_oh>   of course sue is pretty good too
[Dolores7]   CHRISTMAS IS THE BUSIEST CANDY MAKING SEASON. EASTER OR HALLOWEEN MAY BE THE NEXT. SUMMER IS VERY SLOW TO NON EXISTENT. BUT, YOU CAN 'FORCE YOUR MARKET' TO FIT YOUR NEEDS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IF YOU WORK AT IT.
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[Dolores7]   Sue is excellant. And now grandaughter Mandi is in her office. She goes to college and works for us fulltime
[Dolores7]   Hu Custom
<customkak>   hello everyone
<pwdsugar>   Anything with chocolate on it is better.  Crackers, peanuts, pretzels, strawberries, potatoe chips, apple slices and etc
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<margo_>   hi customkak
[Dolores7]   MANY OF OUR CUSTOMERS MAKE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO MAKE, PUT IT IN A BIG BOX AND SEND IT TO OFFICES. PEOPLE BUY IT UP. (THEN THEY EAT ALL THE CANDIES AND NEED MORE FOR THEIR FAMILIES ; )
[Dolores7]   That is all so true Pwd...
[Dolores7]   PEOPLE DROOL OVER CHOCOLATE COVERED CHERRIES, REECE CUPS AND OTHER HOMEMADE CREAMS. ALWAYS BE SURE YOUR CANDIES ARE BETTER THAN THEY CAN GET IN A STORE. WHAT A WONDERFUL MONEY MAKER FOR CHURCH PROJECTS!
[Dolores7]   I know a church that made enough candies to pay for a new roof one year.
<margo_>   What kind of candies did they make?
<helen_oh>   do you make any suckers marida?
[Dolores7]   ....... ONCE YOU LEARN TO MAKE THE CANDIES, IT IS REALLY EASY TO MARKET THEM. JUST MAKE OUT A FORM SIMILAR TO THE GIRL SCOUT COOKIE FORM. TAKE ORDERS AHEAD OR, IF YOU PREFER, MAKE WHATEVER YOU LIKE AND TAKE THEM (OR SEND WITH A FRIEND OR RELATIVE) TO LARGE OFFICES AND FACTORIES.
<Marida>   No.  Just for the grandkids.  I make about 200 pounds to give away at Xmas.
[Dolores7]   I think they made mostly suckers. And choc. covered cherries in boxes
[Dolores7]   I KNOW A GAL WHO GROSSED $500.00 IN 2 WEEKS AT HALLOWEEN, A TEENAGE BOY WHO USED HIS MONEY FOR A CAR DOWN PAYMENT. MANY PEOPLE WHO SUPPLEMENTS THEIR INCOME WITH CANDY MAKING.
<VickyLJ>   what is the cream filling in choc. covered cherries
<mimi2>   What would be best to sell to school-aged kids as a  fund raiser?
<margo_>   I start making sales calls at the end of Nov.  I go to about 25 different business & offices
<VickyLJ>   there is one with just the liquid right?
[Dolores7]   Vicky...recipe on my web site,,, is powdered fondant and cherry juice
[Dolores7]   Mimi...I would sure do suckers.
<VickyLJ>   thx dolores
<mimi2>   ok
[Dolores7]   Helen Oh thought of a nifty trick so she could legally sell Pokemon etc...using Bakery Bites
<Marida>   The kids loved our prescious moments suckers.
<MindyMo>   Margo, when you first started doing the sales calls, how did you go about it.  did you take samples with you.  did you have flyers with what all you had to sell?
<mimi2>   any suggestions on pricing suckers?
<margo_>   I have a friend who just rolls her wet from the juice cherries in the dry fondant & then dips them.  Has anyonr thried this?
[Dolores7]   Vicky...yes...mine is liquid. If you use butter in the center, then it stays a bit creamy. Some people like that best too.
<helen_oh>   i've been making oreo suckers dipped in peanut butter choc.
<MindyMo>   I have a book that tells you to do it that way Margo
<VickyLJ>   How do you charge for the candies?
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[Dolores7]   I'd get at least 3 times my cost. What about others here?
[Dolores7]   Hi Susan
<customkak>   Pardon my ignorance but are suckers the hard candies?
<SusanM>   Hi All
<margo_>   Yes, I make up every kind of candy that I am selling, taking orders for what they want & then setting a delivery date.  They can also order up to a certain date.
[Dolores7]   No - chocolate too Custom...we're rally taking about choc. tonight mostly
<Nita_B>   Hi Susan
<helen_oh>   my suckers are choc.
<SusanM>   Hi Nita
<customkak>   thanx
[Dolores7]   ONE SUCCESSFUL COUPLE DOES IT THIS WAY:, THIS COUPLE MADE A BIG BUSINESS OF IT SO SHE COULD STAY HOME WITH THEIR BABY. THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY'LL MAKE, MAKE A FEW SAMPLES TO SHOW, THEN HE TAKES THOSE INTO WORK AND TAKES ORDERS.
[Dolores7]   THEY DECIDED ON A CHOCOLATE-LONG-STEMMED-ROSE FOR MOTHER'S DAY. THIS IS PACKAGED IN A CLEAR ROSE BOX WITH GREEN FLORIST TISSUE PAPER AND TIED WITH A PRETTY BOW. THERE IS NOT MUCH COST INVOLVED AND I THINK THEY SOLD THESE FOR AROUND $3.00 PER PACKAGE
<MindyMo>   so you took in samples to the business' when you first started selling candy
<margo_>   Yes, I take samples to look at not to eat.
[Dolores7]   I know a girl who made a lot of money by taking them around and showing in stores she frequents.
[Dolores7]   THE ROSE IS POURED INTO A CANDY MOLD ON A LONG STICK, WRAPPED IN FLORIST TAPE AND A SILK LEAF ADDED. WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE, PEOPLE ARE SO BUSY THAT WHEN THEY FIND OUT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO BRING IT TO THEM, THEY ARE HAPPY TO BUY IT.
[Dolores7]   BRANDS: WE CARRY MOSTLY MERCKENS DIPPING/COATING CHOCOLATE AT SUGARCRAFT. (IT IS THE DEMANDED BRAND BY OUR CANDY MAKERS). ANOTHER PRETTY GOOD BRAND IS NESTLES OR GUITTARD (WHO MAKES GOOD FLAVORED CHOCOLATE!).
<customkak>   what is a good way to learn about candy making? (recipes, ideas, etc)
<margo_>   I give eout samples to eat during my slow times, to whet their taste buds for the season that is beginning.
<Marida>   When I was working in an office men would buy anything!
[Dolores7]   Custom...stick with us and we'll all help you. YThis is MUCH easier than cake decorating. We also carry videos.
<LisaOh>   do you ever flavor you candy melt?
<helen_oh>   i
[Dolores7]   But just get some coating chocolate and melt it. Pour in a mold/chill and you'll be hooked.
<customkak>   okay
<margo_>   I flavor dark choc with mint & dip my Oreos that way.
[Dolores7]   definately Lisa...'candy melts' is Wilton's brand name....but always use coating chocolate
<helen_oh>   margo how do you do oreos?
<KathyMBNC>   margo, do you use oreo cookies?
<MarissaT>   what is a good beginners candy making book?
<LisaOh>   I dont use Wiltons....lol  I will get the names straight, I promise!
<VickyLJ>   That sounds good with the oreos
<scsc1>   Did someone say they put dipped oreos on a stick?
<MindyMo>   I made the copy thin mint recipe and used mint flavored chocolate to dip them.  Good!!!
[Dolores7]   Try Ritz crackers, peanut butter in between 2 and coat with white chocolate. No one can guess what that even is made up - FUN!
<Marida>   You know what Dolores:  I think we need to put together a recipe book.
<margo_>   On my custom centers & fillings I  dip with a mixture of "real" & coating.
[Dolores7]   yeah...in our spare time LOL
[Dolores7]   THERE ARE A FEW OTHER BRANDS AVAILABLE. SOME TASTE 'WAXY' AND SOME ARE 'GRITTY.' BUT YOU SHOULD DO A 'TASTE TEST' YOURSELF AND DECIDE WHICH YOU LIKE THE MOST. ALL ARE SIMILAR IN COST. THE COST DEPENDS A LOT ON YOUR AREA. HERE A 1 LB PACKAGE $2.45. LARGER QUANTITY BAGS ARE CHEAPER. PEOPLE WHO MAKE A LOT OF IT BUY 50 LB CASES OF IT.
<MindyMo>   do you make the fondant centers margo
<LisaOh>   Are opera creams difficult to make?
<helen_oh>   i do oreos on astick but i grind them up first
<traciep>   opera creams are easy.
<traciep>   i have a recipe around here somewhere
[Dolores7]   Lisa...we cook fondant for that. I do have a recipe. Love to cook fondant
<LisaOh>   never tried them, so wasn't sure,....I get alot of requests for them
[Dolores7]   WHAT TO CHARGE: THESE CANDIES SELL IN MY AREA FOR AROUND $7-8.00 PER 1 LB BOX PACKAGED. OR, FOR THE CHOCOLATE LOLLIPOPS, CHARGE ACCORDING TO SIZE.
<margo_>   Yes, I only use the regular Oreo's  The double stuffed won't fit into my box.  I tried different brands, I've always gone back to Oreo's.
<LisaOh>   is the fondant soft
[Dolores7]   PACKAGE IT PRETTY: PACKAGING WILL SELL YOUR CANDIES! (AND YOUR CAKES!) DRESS IT UP WITH PRETTY WRAPPINGS AND A NICE BOW.
<traciep>   mix a container with opera creams and buckeyes and they sell really well around here
<margo_>   Yes, I made all of my centers.
<VickyLJ>   what are opera creams
[Dolores7]   Pretty soft...or cook a bit longer for more firm. I've never ruined a batch...must be easy.
<LisaOh>   do you sell the suckers by themselves or several together?
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[Dolores7]   Vicky...kinda old fashioned candy
[Dolores7]   HANDLING: MELTING CHOCOLATE: MELT IN THE TOP OF A DOUBLE-BOILER OR IN THE MICROWAVE (ON DEFROST A MINUTE AT A TIME, STIRRING BETWEEN MINUTES). DO NOT GET IT MORE THAN LUKE WARM AND DO NOT GET ANY MOISTURE OR WATER IN IT OR IT WILL GET HARD INSTEAD OF MELTING
<MindyMo>   do you customers have a favorite flavor of fondant centers
<helen_oh>   did you ever grind the oreos ?
[Dolores7]   (CAN BE FIXED IF YOU DO THO- USE PARAMOUNT CRYSTALS, A FLAKY SHORTENING. MELT IN MICROWAVE AND ADD AS MUCH AS NEEDED.) NEXT, I HAVE A FEW SIMPLE RECIPES........
[Dolores7]   Helen made WONDERFUL Oreo crushed/suckers! I had samples
<VickyLJ>   just curious never heard of them
<LisaOh>   I melt mine in the oven
<helen_oh>   m
<MindyMo>   how did you do them Helen?  the crushed oreo suckers?
[Dolores7]   Vicky...if you want help, just catch us on the message board. We'll all dig in to help you start
<VickyLJ>   Thanks
[Dolores7]   My favorite:
[Dolores7]   EASY PEPPERMINT CRUNCH: (THIS IS HARD TACK CANDY WITH FOOD COLORING AND PEPPERMINT FLAVORING ADDED). IT IS NOT CRUSHED CANDY CANES. THEY WOULD SOFTEN. PEPPERMINT CRUNCH IS AVAILABLE FROM SUGARCRAFT OR OTHER CAKE & CANDY SHOPS. I THINK EVERY FAMILY IN THIS ARE HAS A BATCH OF THIS
<VickyLJ>   I would definately love to try making candy
[Dolores7]   DURING THE HOLIDAYS AS MUCH OF IT AS WE GO THROUGH. AND SOOO EASY TOO.
<helen_oh>   grind up oreos put in melted p.b choc to hold together and put inamold
[Dolores7]   You can use this candy with Gingerbread houses too, right Tracie???
<VickyLJ>   especially with xmas coming up, try it on the family first.  LOL
<Marida>   Helen, what did you do to the white chocolate peppermint creams when you molded them?
<traciep>   you can use anything with gingerbread!   :-)
[Dolores7]   2 LB WHITE CHOCOLATE, 1 LB PEPPERMINT CRUNCH (IT'S PRETTY - RED & GREEN) MELT CHOCOLATE, ADD PEPPERMINT AND POUR OUT ON WAX PAPER COVERED TRAY. LAY A PIECE OF WAX PAPER OVER THE TOP AND PRESS IT DOWN SMOOTH AND EVEN. CHILL IN FREEZER COMPARTMENT OR LET SET UP AT ROOM TEMPERATURE. BREAK APART.
<margo_>   had a candy question but it wasn't on choc.
<LisaOh>   <---- decorated first gingerbread house today~
[Dolores7]   Congrats Lisa! How did it go? Like it?
[Dolores7]   go Margo
[Dolores7]   YOU CAN ALSO USE THIS IN CANDY MOLDS. IT IS PRETTY. WRAP IT OR PLACE IN TINY CANDY BAGS IF YOU ARE PUTTING IT IN A BOX OF CANDY OR IT WILL MAKE ALL THE CANDY IN THE BOX TASTE LIKE PEPPERMINT.
<LisaOh>   I loved it...but the humidity today was making it tough to get the icing to harden up
<LisaOh>   looks pretty good for the first one!
[Dolores7]   Yes...it was almost hot here today. I used the a/c
<helen_oh>   i painted the molds and put pep in and choc on top for Dolores wedding
<margo_>   has anyone ever made candy canes, I tried & was cleaning it up in kitchen on the 4th of July still
<helen_oh>   Put silver on top
<MindyMo>   LOL  margo
[Dolores7]   Make sure they eat it Lisa...so you can do that again. I had to break mine then the kids would eat it all.
[Dolores7]   Right Helen...and VERY pretty dainty candies too....uhmmm Joyce's wedding LOL
<SandyKS>   take a picture first Lisa before you smals it.
<SandyKS>   smash it is what I meant
<LisaOh>   lol  I will...the kidsa are bugging me to eat it
[Dolores7]   Margo...have seen a recipe, never tried that myself
[Dolores7]   VARIATIONS: SUBSTITUTE OTHER CRUNCHES FOR THE PEPPERMINT, SUCH AS MALTED MILK CRUNCH, TINY KRISPIE CRUNCH, TOFFEE CRUNCH, PEANUT BRITTLE, COCONUT, ETC.
<margo_>   DON'T TRY IT UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT STRESS    LOL
[Dolores7]   COCONUT BON BONS---ONLY 2 INGREDIENTS! 3/4 CUP LIGHT CORN SYRUP; OR MORE FOR SOFTER CANDY, 2 1/2 CUPS DRY MACAROON COCONUT, NEED COATING CHOCOLATE; MILK OR WHITE, AS PREFERRED HEAT THE CORN SYRUP SLIGHTLY. DO NOT BOIL. ADD COCONUT. STIR TO BLEND; LET MIXTURE STAND 1 HOUR OR MORE. ROLL INTO 1 TO 1 1/2" BALLS.
[Dolores7]   thats good Lisa...then make another
<LisaOh>   do you make pecan brittle the same way you do peanut brittle?
<VickyLJ>   saw coconut and thought of almond joys, now i like those, are they easy to make that center
<helen_oh>   Imabout to make more peppermint creams again marida so humid!!
<margo_>   Yes, be sure to roast your pecans first.
[Dolores7]   yes Lisa
<LisaOh>   why?
<SandyKS>   I make pecan brittle with my peanut brittle recipe. but I add coconut flakes it is good. YUM
[Dolores7]   PLACE BALLS ON WAX-PAPER LINED COOKIE SHEET. LET STAND WHILE MELTING CHOCOLATE. THESE CAN EITHER BE DIPPED OR USED IN A CANDY MOLD. THEY ARE PRETTY (AND GOOD) DIPPED IN WHITE OR PASTEL CHOCOLATE AND DRIZZLED ON TOP WITH PINK OR RED CHOCOLATE. HINT: SEVERAL DIFFERENT CANDIES CAN BE CODED BY USING DIFFERENT SHAPED CANDY MOLDS AND KEEPING A LIST.
<margo_>   Roasting them brings out the flavor more.
[Dolores7]   BASIC CREAM CENTER (THIS IS SOOOO DELICIOUS!) 2 1/2 LB INSTANT MIX DRY CANDY FONDANT, 1/2 CUP WHIPPING CREAM, 1/2 CUP BUTTER; SOFTENED, VANILLA OR OTHER FLAVORINGS OR OILS (I USE LORANN OIL FLAVORINGS IN THE TINY VIALS) DIRECTIONS:
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[Dolores7]   COMBINE INSTANT MIX DRY CANDY FONDANT WITH THE SOFTENED BUTTER; BLEND WELL AND LET STAND FOR SEVERAL HOURS OR OVERNIGHT. KNEAD FONDANT AND BUTTER MIXTURE UNTIL CREAMY. HEAT WHIPPING CREAM TO THE BOILING POINT. DO NOT BOIL.
[Dolores7]   ADD CREAM WITH VANILLA OR OTHER FLAVORING TO FONDANT., COOL SLIGHTLY AND KNEAD SMOOTH. DIFFERENT FLAVORS MAY TASTE IN THE MANY VARIATIONS OF THIS RECIPE. SHAPE INTO BALLS AND USE AS CENTERS IN YOUR CANDY MOLD, FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN FOR FILLED CANDIES. VARIATIONS:
<LisaOh>   dumb question....do you roast it yourself in the oven?  how long?
[Dolores7]   COMBINE THE ABOVE RECIPE WITH NUTS, FLAVORS, COLORING, FRUIT ETC. CAN YOU THINK OF MORE?
<helen_oh>   THat is good fondant Dolores
[Dolores7]   Not dumb at all!
[Dolores7]   I agree...but I do really like to cook it too.
<margo_>   Low, Low heat keep stirring until lightly brown  Be careful as they burn easy
[Dolores7]   CANDY COATED PRETZELS: PRETZELS, OF ANY SORT, MAKE A NICE ADDITION TO THAT SPECIAL PARTY. THEY CAN BE DIPPED IN A VARIETY OF COLOR AND FLAVOR COATING CHOCOLATE AND ROLLED IN SPRINKLES. THE LARGE STRAIGHT PRETZEL CAN BE DIPPED IN MELTED CHOCOLATE (HALF-WAY DOWN LOOKS NICE) AND ROLLED IN SPRINKLES OR NUTS.
<LisaOh>   the basic cream center is the fondant you use for like the opera creams?
<MindyMo>   When you are using pecans, do you all check them all for shells and the stuff that sticks in the groves
[Dolores7]   DIPPED DRIED FRUITS: DRIED APRICOTS OR OTHER DRIED FRUITS MAKE DELICIOUS AND HEALTHY WAYS TO COAX SMALL CHILDREN INTO EATING THEIR FRUIT. USUALLY FRUITS ARE DIPPED ONLY ABOUT HALFWAY, LEAVING PART OF IT BARE.
<VickyLJ>   Can you use that basic cream center recipe and add coconut then dip in choc.?  Can you tell I like coconut. LOL
<SandyKS>   I like white chocolate and then mix in homemade (or boughten) granola with salted sunflowers seeds and raisins, then drop by spoonful
[Dolores7]   Lisa...I haven't looked at the rec in a long time. I think you use a water fondant for that rather than the butter based
<margo_>   No I don't check mine, I've never {knock on wood} had that problem
<traciep>   i don't use fondant in my opera creams
[Dolores7]   Vicky...yes but use the dessicated coconut...flakes is not right for that
<LisaOh>   what do you use Tracie?
[Dolores7]   CHOCOLATE-DIPPED POTATO CHIPS: MELT CHOCOLATE COATING AND DIP POTATO CHIPS HALFWAY.
<VickyLJ>   dessicated coconut?
<traciep>   i can't really remember.  i know if has a lot of confectioners sugar and cream cheese
<VickyLJ>   is that more fine or something
[Dolores7]   Can only get that in cake supply shops Vicky
<VickyLJ>   ok
<MindyMo>   how can you tell when the pecans are toasted enough?
[Dolores7]   yes Vicky...much finer
<MindyMo>   I use regular coconut and grind it up more
[Dolores7]   Its dry too...soaks up while it sets and is great
<margo_>   They give off a intense flavor smell.  You will know.
[Dolores7]   Vicky...you've probably eaten it in candy bars without realizing
<LisaOh>   and you cook them on top of the stove?
<LisaOh>   the pecans?
<VickyLJ>   probably have so.LOL
<traciep>   opera cream is a popular easter egg flavor
[Dolores7]   Mindy...guess you would also have to let it dry out some?
<margo_>   Yes, the pecans
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<MindyMo>   yes, just let it sit in the oven with the light on
[Dolores7]   CHOCOLATE COVERED BANANAS: INSERT A SUCKER STICK OF APPROPRIATE STRENGTH. FREEZE THE BANANA. DIP IN MELTED CHOCOLATE COATING (HALFWAY, LEAVING SOME EXPOSED). QUICKLY ROLL IN CRUSHED NUTS; CHILL.
<traciep>   we always get the Paas Opera Cream Easter Eggs
[Dolores7]   THERE ARE MANY MORE CANDY RECIPES ON MY WEB SITE - GET THERE FROM HERE: http://w3.one.net/~proicer/index.html
[Dolores7]   This is all. Now if you all want to talk about something else or have questions/comments...please go
<LisaOh>   wouldnt the banans brown?
<margo_>   Don't the banana's turn if you don't dip all of it?
[Dolores7]   eat right away Margo...Lisa...this is great fun for kids
<SusanM>   Is pulled sugar considered a candy?
<MindyMo>   how many flavors of fondant creams do you make?
[Dolores7]   Susan...I would say so...and an art!
<LisaOh>   k
[Dolores7]   I have LOTS of candy center flavor ideas on my candy page...and of course...dream up some more of your own
<helen_oh>   maple orange lemon strawberrycherry etc
<SusanM>   Thanks, D.  Just wondered about pulling it into a fancy design for sale.
<margo_>   Sorry, those I can't eat.  I'm not a frozen kind of person.  Hurts my teeth too much
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<VickyLJ>   Thanks for all the info and answering all my questions
<LisaOh>   how do you get people to order wedding cakes from you when you have only made one???
[Dolores7]   One I made that was great was with our candy center. The center didn't suit me so I added butter and sweetened condensed milk to it. Boy was that ever good!
<VickyLJ>   Have to put daughter in bed.  Good night all and thanks again
<scsc1>   Sandy, do you use Merkins white chocolate for that granola mixture?
[Dolores7]   Welcome Vicky
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<traciep>   Lisa -personality and service.  something you don't usually get anywhere else.
[Dolores7]   Lisa...I think you have to expect it to go slow at first
<SandyKS>   I use the almond bark from the local grocery store. we don't have all the fancy kinds around here LOL
<LisaOh>   well, I hit my goal this year, and it was to make at least 1 wedding cake...but would love to do more
<margo_>   Lisa, I pray also & get grey!!  LOL
<LisaOh>   lol
<SandyKS>   I love the sweet taste of the almond bark with the salty sunflower seeds and chewy raisins
[Dolores7]   Lisa...make tiered (2 tier) for the kids special occasions and let it be known you do cakes
<scsc1>   sounds great Sandy--thx
<SusanM>   Dolores:  Do you sell the hand pump needed for sugar bubbles?
<traciep>   make up a couple dummy cakes to keep at your house
[Dolores7]   Susan...no...maybe Earlene can help you with that?
<helen_oh>   take samples to beauty shp lisa
<SusanM>   Thanks.
<scsc1>   Sandy are they clumps or balls?
[Dolores7]   Her friend Wynn Grissom teaches and does a lovely job
<margo_>   Earlene's quiet tonight
<traciep>   lisa, did you find out about being legal?
<LisaOh>   lol...running out of room  Tracie...lol
<LisaOh>   yeah, been legal Since last December
[Dolores7]   She and Rosemary are probably making gumpaste flowers LOL
<SandyKS>   I have a five tier dummy cake in the corner of my living room. customers and friends come in and always notice. they always want to know who's wedding cake. Yeah like I'd set a  real 5 tier wedding cake in the corner on a filing cabinet. NOT
<traciep>   do a bunch of craft shows during the winter.
<CarolAnnTX>   oh ladies, i'm really hurting, got to go put arm up and take pain kill see ya all next week!  killer.   thanks, great chatt!
<pwdsugar>   True = Rosemary and I are just sitting here watching you guys go buy  LOL
<SandyKS>   I drop the candy by spoonfuls, they are clumps I gues
[Dolores7]   Pwd...they asked about a pump to blow sugar bubbles
[Dolores7]   Do you know where to get one?
<pwdsugar>   Candy I only do for really good friends and family
<LisaOh>   I am trying to get into the festival here this December
[Dolores7]   Earlene...here is Sandy's question again: THERE ARE MANY MORE CANDY RECIPES ON MY WEB SITE - GET THERE FROM HERE: http://w3.one.net/~proicer/index.html
<LisaOh>   just not sure how much to make up and how many differnt things to offer
[Dolores7]   sorry...it wasn't that...LOL
<pwdsugar>   A pump to blow sugar bubbles.  It looks sort of like a bulb on the end with a tube that the candy attaches to.  you pump it by hand
<SusanM>   Yes
<margo_>   I have a customer who wants gumpaste apple bloosoms for a wedding cake, how do you charge as I haven't done this before
<pwdsugar>   I would email Wyn Grisham to find out where to get them.
<helen_oh>   use a turkey baster???
[Dolores7]   Margo...check out the new cutter sets from Sunflower from our Gumpaste page...love that for ap blossoms
<SusanM>   Earlene:  Do you have her e-mail address?
[Dolores7]   what is her email add Earlene?
<MindyMo>   how are you going to decide Lisa?  Maybe you could help me out too.  ;-)
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<pwdsugar>   wilwyn@aol.com  is her email address
<SusanM>   THANKS SO MUCH, EARLENE!
<pwdsugar>   You are welcome
<traciep>   if you're going to start doing craft shows, it's better to do at least 2.
<SusanM>   Thanks, also, Dolores, of course.
[Dolores7]   Lisa...may be better to take orders mostly - at first. OR...send some to offices of friends..they'll eat them for dessert
<traciep>   that way, you make up a bunch of stuff and if you don't sell it, you can use it for the next.
<MindyMo>   to do 2 shows traciep
<margo_>   Earlene, got your package today, haven't opened it yet as I wanted to catch the chat first.
<traciep>   also, the first show will hopefully give you an idea of what sells.
[Dolores7]   SHOWS...have you been reading about what DEAN said on doing shows - from my candy subject of the mess. board? He is fabulous
<MindyMo>   I just hope I make enough money at the craft show to at least cover my expenses
<LisaOh>   well the Festival is at the beginning of Dec.  So I still have the whole month to get rid of whatever is left
<margo_>   Tracie, I'm going to try your Ice cream cones for my customer this season
<traciep>   hopefully the cones will sell as well for you as they do for me margo
<MindyMo>   He sure is Dolores,  he helped me out a bunch
<margo_>   you said that you sell for 1.50 right?
<MindyMo>   and me too traciep.  ;-)
[Dolores7]   Nice of him to share in such detail too
<LisaOh>   I know it will sell.  Just dont want to sell out early and dont want a ton left over....lol  I am not picky!!!!  LOL
<traciep>   $1.5 or $1.75,  will depend on costs this year
<customkak>   Thamx everyone for your help.  God willing I will be here next week
[Dolores7]   Lisa...is your show in Lebanon?
[Dolores7]   welcome custom...
<helen_oh>   did you go on his site to see the sneeze guard
<LisaOh>   yes
[Dolores7]   I don't think so
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<MindyMo>   He emailed the plans Helen
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<traciep>   lisa, do you go to other shows and see what they offer?
<LisaOh>   I just want to get my name out a bit more and I think this will help some
<LisaOh>   I went to this last one that we had in Sept.
<MindyMo>   are you going to hand out flyers Lisa
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<pwdsugar>   sneeze guard?
<traciep>   i'm doing 6 shows this year.
<LisaOh>   Last December I took orders and was slammed...lol
<LisaOh>   Hadnt' thought about that Mindy
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[Dolores7]   for shows pwd...Dean has a very nice store as well as all the ideas he has for shows
<pwdsugar>   I am about to sneeze my head off right now - who has a sneeze guard?
<margo_>   Some of the big craft shows around here state that you have to have insurance before you can get a booth.  Any one else have that problem?
<helen_oh>   dean had made a sneeze guard for candy shows
[Dolores7]   how do you get slammed on candy orders Lisa?
<LisaOh>   I feel so far behind, I am afraid I wont get everything done that I am planning on doing
<MindyMo>   mine didn't say anything about insurance
<traciep>   i'm legal and have all the licenses, but i've never been asked for anything like that
<LisaOh>   my mom and sister in law took orders at their jobs....everyone loved them
<MindyMo>   they did give me forms to send in sales tax though
[Dolores7]   Here if you don't get your 'day health license' they come around at the show and make you buy one
<LisaOh>   then at  Easter time is was alot worse....well in a good way
<margo_>   I'm legal also but they still wanted insurance.
<traciep>   is that for the county dolores?
[Dolores7]   no Tracie...we were down in that mall by Tri County...the small one
<traciep>   wow, i've never been asked for anything
<LisaOh>   plus, it is just me dolores, making candy with 3 small children...lol
<MindyMo>   what all kinds did you make lisa
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[Dolores7]   I know how it goes Lisa...been there too
<LisaOh>   last year, just choco;ate suckers and pretzels covered in carmel and chocolate
<SusanM>   Good Night, Ladies, thanks once again for a very informative chat.
<margo_>   Asked my sister - in -law about taking orders for me , took samples, people ate them (the ones for show only) & then didn't order.
<LisaOh>   just underestimated how many people I thought would buy from me
<traciep>   on the bakery bites suckers, i'm still having problems with them floating in the mold.  any suggestions?
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<helen_oh>   be patient lisa they grow upquick
[Dolores7]   Tracie...its $2.00 per day and you can go get one somewhere. I wasn't in charge of that so I don't know how or where they got the license
<LisaOh>   lol...I know Helen.  They are really good and very patient with me
<traciep>   i guess i won't worry unless they ask
<MindyMo>   oh no traciep,  don't say that,  I just ordered bakery bites
[Dolores7]   I don't think so Tracie...not here I don't think
<LisaOh>   where are you from Mindy?
<margo_>   I just order some too,  What  now??
<MindyMo>   Missouri
[Dolores7]   Helen is the pro on Bakery Bite suckers!
<traciep>   lisa, you have to let me know if you do the show.  i'lll stop by
<margo_>   what part of Missouri?
<MindyMo>   how do you keep bakery bites from floating in the sucker molds when you fill them with chocolate
<MindyMo>   NE, close to Iowa and Illinois
[Dolores7]   Heken, didnt you say you sort of hold them in palce when you start pouring chocolate?
<scsc1>   thanks for chat, night all
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<MindyMo>   are you from missouri too Margo
<pwdsugar>   Terciep  could you put just a little chocolate in the mold and then the bakery bites.  Let it sit for just a little bit and then finish filling with the chocolate.  That way they would be stuck to the first bit of chocolate and not float to the top
<helen_oh>   you have to lay them flat and pour choc right away
<margo_>   Family lives in KC, Warrensburg & Sedalia
<traciep>   but then the picture is covered, isn't it?
<LisaOh>   okay Tracie
[Dolores7]   No,,,the Bakery Bite is first
[Dolores7]   then chocolate
<pwdsugar>   Oh the Bakery bites have pictures on them?
<MindyMo>   can you get the bakery bit a bit wet so it will stick in the mold?  do they get sticky like rice paper
<helen_oh>   no  choc will cover the picture
[Dolores7]   yes Pwd...these are wafer paper pictures...Pokemon and all that..legal this way to sell
<margo_>   I thought of that , drop of water under , Think it will work??
[Dolores7]   Mindy...I don't think thats a good idea. I'd do like Helen said and pour carefully and slow...make sure the BB doesn't turn
<pwdsugar>   I see - sorry I didn't understand what the bakery bites were
<traciep>   tried that.  it worked most of the time
<LisaOh>   not sure if I like those bakery bites yet or not
<helen_oh>   iwant to get christmas ones soon
<MindyMo>   tried what traciep?
<traciep>   dolores, i didn't see the christmas ones up there saturday.  where were they?
<traciep>   tried just slightly wetting them.
<margo_>   Tracie, They were in my order
[Dolores7]   Well Lisa...that is the only way you can sell copyrighted characters that I can think of and thats what the kids make mom buy
<MindyMo>   did it hurt them any,  getting them wet
<helen_oh>   when its humid its a problem
<traciep>   did you buy them all margo?  LOL
[Dolores7]   Tracie...I think those are at the bottom of that page. I checked - they're on and had been
<traciep>   no mindy
<LisaOh>   true
<margo_>   LOL naw but it sounded good
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<traciep>   no, i meant in the store dolores
<traciep>   i'm one of the few that can actually drive to your store.   LOL
[Dolores7]   oh - sure Tracie...I forget you are so close LOL
<MindyMo>   yes,  and I'm jealous
<helen_oh>   i can too!!!!!!!!!!!!
<LisaOh>   same here, just havent done it yet
[Dolores7]   Tracie and I had a big time Saturday...and I got to meet her lucky fiance too
<margo_>   me, too wish I could drive there!!
<helen_oh>   i'm sorry I knew way back when
<traciep>   dolores, we got the whole wedding planned in less than 48 hours.   LOL
[Dolores7]   Margo...you aren't very far away. Gosh...I took classes in Indianapolis once...drove home each night
[Dolores7]   Tracie...you better...you don't have a lotta time
<MindyMo>   how long will fondant creams last, leaving them out, or freezing them?
<margo_>   Well i'd drive there for class but I've got school kid that I need to boss around
<helen_oh>   that debate sounds like abust!!!
[Dolores7]   Mindy...cooked last as long as any but with sweetened condensed milk (jiffy kind) they last unrefrigerated at least 6 weeks
[Dolores7]   ...in a normally cool room
<margo_>   At 12, you need to boss!!
<LisaOh>   how long will peanut brittle stay good for?
[Dolores7]   I did too Margo...then LOL...but hubby was home...was at night
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<MindyMo>   the cooked ones don't last as long?
[Dolores7]   a bust LOL
[Dolores7]   Hi Maimee
<maimee>   hi!!
<margo_>   Mine works out of town so I can't do that
[Dolores7]   I don't know...they sure never did spoil but they don't ever last over a week I don't think
[Dolores7]   I offer them to employees and us and we eat them all up fast. I think cooked would last longer
<MindyMo>   LOL,  well these are going to have to last or I'll be eating up all my profits
[Dolores7]   Guess we'll have to drive over and see you margo!
<LisaOh>   Mindy, when you the show your doing?
<traciep>   what candies would you reccomend that will keep for the 2 months of craft shows so I can make a bunch up at the start?
<traciep>   Are we going on a road trip dolores?
<MindyMo>   Nov 11
[Dolores7]   Mindy...I'd allow for at least 5-6 weeks, but cooked a little longer...OR put them in 60 degrees or cooloer and they'll last twice that long I think
<margo_>   The only thing that I ever had spoi for a keeping a long time was my marshmellows
<LisaOh>   are you ready?  Mindy?
<MindyMo>   heck no.
<LisaOh>   lol
[Dolores7]   oh...my niece eats ALL of the marshmallow right up...her favorite.
<helen_oh>   well i better say goodnite
<LisaOh>   and I am freaking out about Dec 2nd...lol
<traciep>   mindy's been donig a lot of shopping though.
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<margo_>   come ahead I'm always game for a visit
<MindyMo>   yeah,  probably spent more than I'll bring in.
[Dolores7]   Tracie...we have to go see Margo! But she WILL be at our teacher's meeting Saturday
<traciep>   lisa, feel free to come help me.  i have 3 on nov. 11, one the 18th, 25th and Dec. 2
<LisaOh>   where is the Dec2 one?
<traciep>   i tried to call ann to find out about it because i didn't register.  no call back.  i don't even know where it is.
<margo_>   Is tracie going to be there Sat??
[Dolores7]   Margo...just kidding. I would never get away for anything. I wish!
<MindyMo>   how do you package your dipped candies to sell at the craft shows
[Dolores7]   Tracie...at that same place...just come
<traciep>   dec 2 is the MIlford show.  they have about 300 booths and a 3 year waiting list to get in
<LisaOh>   wow!
<traciep>   embassy suites in blue ash?  what time
[Dolores7]   Mindy...use candy pad and wrap in plastic wrap or the cello candy roll paper. SEAL and that keeps them from drying out
<MindyMo>   or do you sell them by the piece?
[Dolores7]   We do in the shop...good idea at a show I bet
<margo_>   Dolores, I'll have to get directions form you cause I don't know where it is.
<LisaOh>   Tracie, do you sell your gingerbread houses at the craft shows??
[Dolores7]   yes...I think 9am...is that right Margo?
<traciep>   yep, last year sold around 200
[Dolores7]   Lisa...our meeting?
<traciep>   it's easy to get to margo
<LisaOh>   so, cann I make them now for Dec 2???
[Dolores7]   oops...wrong.
<MindyMo>   I made up the sneeze guard/display case thing and I'm going to try sitting the candies up kind of like how they sell them at the candy stores in the mall
<traciep>   lisa, that was at only 2 shows last yeat
<LisaOh>   meeting?
<traciep>   yep, make them now, wrap in plastic and they stay pretty moist.
<MindyMo>   do youo think that will work okay
<margo_>   brb
<LisaOh>   losely in plastic?...do they need air too?
<traciep>   for the houses, break one and give samples.  if your recipe is good, people will buy from the samples.
[Dolores7]   Margo...come by my house and down I-75..exit at I-275 EAST. Exit Reed Hartman HWY south. It may be 4 miles or so and is on the right
<traciep>   for the ice cream cones, let people pick one up.  they will be amzed with the weight of the cones.  it's a sure sell
<LisaOh>   omg...there is no way I could make 200 by then
<LisaOh>   what all do you sell Tracie?
[Dolores7]   Margo...you'll go I-70 to I-75 south
<traciep>   you would be sureprised.  make a procution line
<traciep>   ops, production
<LisaOh>   lol....do you make the same design?
[Dolores7]   Lisa...I meant that for Margo...this screen rolls too fast, sorry
<traciep>   same size house, each with different candy combinations.  $10 each
<LisaOh>   how tall are they?
<margo_>   I'm back, meeting starts at 8:30
<traciep>   dolores, can you get me a list of what to bring for the class saturday?
<traciep>   approx. 4x4x5
[Dolores7]   Margo...we really need to be there at least 30 minutes sooner
<margo_>   I'll e-mail mine if you want tracie
<LisaOh>   the one I made today was about 12 inch tall
[Dolores7]   Tracie...yes but email me at proicer@one.net
<traciep>   that would be great margo.  thanks.
<LisaOh>   what class?\
[Dolores7]   I'll forget...are you on one.net too?
[Dolores7]   so you are traciep@one.net?
<traciep>   i've got one like that sitting here.  that sells for about $35 or $40
<traciep>   yes, one net.   cakelady@one.net
[Dolores7]   Lisa...Wilton teachers meeting this Sat.
<LisaOh>   I was really suprised how well it turned out
<LisaOh>   oh I see
[Dolores7]   I can remember that one LOL
[Dolores7]   I'm also on one.net
<traciep>   it has snowmen in the front yard and a tree and a fence around the house made of candies.
<margo_>   hey, talked to the brides mother today about my table bowing 7 tier cake Sat.
[Dolores7]   Tracie...can I fax you the papers somehow?
<LisaOh>   well I havent gotten around to the trees and such yet...need to run to the store and buy a bunch of goodies...lol
<traciep>   yep.  fax them to john.   777-9459
[Dolores7]   okey dokey...will TRY to remember
<traciep>   i really like the pull and peel licorice for the houses.  cut them up and they make great windows, snowmen scarves, wlakways
[Dolores7]   Lisa...have you ever made sugar mold ornaments? Wonder about those or hanging cookies
<MindyMo>   has anyone seen string licorice lately.  I've been looking and can't fine it
<LisaOh>   now, when they are in the cellophane after drying, do I need to have holes in the plastic for air
[Dolores7]   Tracie...we do need pictures!
<LisaOh>   I have made the sugar mold ornaments...but didnt like them
<MindyMo>   do you mean gingerbread Lisa?
<LisaOh>   yes
<traciep>   hanging cookies for ornaments sell great.
<LisaOh>   yep, gonna do those too...or at least try to
<traciep>   i'll borrow dad's digital tomorrow and put them on my website
[Dolores7]   I would think they would too
<LisaOh>   I think I have too many items that I would like to sell
[Dolores7]   YEAH! I have to go see them. let me know please
<MindyMo>   I didn't wrap mine tight, the ones that I saved from last year, I don't know about the ones to sell.  traciep, do you wrap the gb air tight
<traciep>   mindy, use the pull'n'peel.  it makes great string licorace for ornament strings.  you can double it up to make it stronger.  then the whole thing is edible
[Dolores7]   I'd mmake old fashioned Santa cookies for hanging maybe
<MindyMo>   that's my problem lisa
<traciep>   i put them in the gallon plastic bags with a bunch of ribbon tying the top.  it'snot completely air tight
<MindyMo>   pull n peel?  okay,  I'll look for it
[Dolores7]   Did any of you ever use the cookie clay molds?
<LisaOh>   lol...I know...Just have to figure out how to get it all done and then have the stuff to decorate your table to make it look nice
<traciep>   i make gloves, gingerbreadmen,ornaments, stickings,trees and bows
[Dolores7]   Tracie...clay mold ones?
<traciep>   its a twizzler brand mindy.  it even comes in different flavors and colors
<traciep>   no, i have a bunch of copper cookie cutters i use
[Dolores7]   oh
<LisaOh>   is it good to have a variety at the fairs or limit what you sell
<MindyMo>   okay,  thanks traciep.
<traciep>   lisa, just use a plain white tablecloth.  the stuff you sell will have such great colors you don't want to distract from them
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<margo_>   I have used the clay molds'
[Dolores7]   hi cajincake
<traciep>   what are the clay molds?
<LisaOh>   well I thought I having a table top Christmas tree to hold the ornaments
[Dolores7]   Shirley is really quiet this evening???
<cajncake>   hi their
<MindyMo>   all my table cloths are colors.
<margo_>   Wilton carries them, they are very detailed
<cajncake>   how is everyone this evening
<traciep>   i think a solid works better, but that's just my opinion.  usually i'm wrong.  LOL
<MindyMo>   she's just logging,  she was helping her son with homework
<traciep>   ok, i know what you're talking about.
[Dolores7]   Wilton discontinued them all. And a lady came and wiped us out...bought over a thousand dollars worth!
<MindyMo>   hi cajncake
<traciep>   i have a bunch of those.  haven't used them yet.  those would be awful heavy for the tree
<cajncake>   hi mindymo
<maimee>   brb putting baby to bed!
<cajncake>   how are you
<traciep>   they're hanging in my kitchen with my copper cutters
[Dolores7]   oh...and she can read it later...she'll see us talking about her ;o)
<MindyMo>   just fine,  how about you cajncake.  we're talking craft shows, candy, cookies, etc
<margo_>   That I didn't know, they are a pain to use .  To get good details you have to bake in them, very time consuming
<cajncake>   oh ok
<cajncake>   where you from mindy
[Dolores7]   yes...we all learned something this time! Was a great chat
<MindyMo>   Missouri,  how about you?
<cajncake>   louisiana
<maimee>   ok
<traciep>   they bake up pretty thick.  you can't roll them thin
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<MindyMo>   that's why the cajn,  ;-)
[Dolores7]   Margo...I thought that. I have an old fashioned Santa I tried a couple of timess...not Wilton
<cajncake>   yes
<traciep>   i could have figured that out.  LOL
<ShirleyR>   Finally..we are done! Thank Heavens!
<margo_>   I tried that logging thing, never got the hang of it
[Dolores7]   oops...Shirley caught us talking about her
<MindyMo>   we were just talking about you shirle
[Dolores7]   Margo...its invisible
<ShirleyR>   ut oh..good or bad..I'll have to check it out later..LOL
<LisaOh>   how many things are you planning on making Mindy?
[Dolores7]   When you exit, then look for it in the directory of IRC (or Pirch)
<margo_>   no, I couldn't get it to come up after I left
<MindyMo>   oh,  about 150.  LOL
[Dolores7]   Not bad Shirley...we ove you. Count on you getting a good log
<traciep>   how many cones are you making mindy?
[Dolores7]   meant love you
<MindyMo>   60
<maimee>   what are the cones?
[Dolores7]   Shirley...hope they make an 'A'
<ShirleyR>   okay Dolores7 ...yes I cant miss when Im home for the log!LOL
<margo_>   tracie, I sent what you need to bring with you by e-mail hope it came through
<traciep>   these are the cones     http://www.cincinnaticakes.com/gallery/image0.htm
<cajncake>   where can i read the chat later on dolores site
<MindyMo>   cream horns, bakery bite suckers, hard tac suckers, turtles, gingerbread houses, fondant creams, fudge, cookies on sticks, ornaments, choc. covered cherries, choc, pretzels, buckeyes, and ???
[Dolores7]   and I have to go...I will be tired and they won't be sorry for me at all at work.
<ShirleyR>   Dolores7  he will..he gets all A's except for writing.. and he is in the gifted class too:)
[Dolores7]   cajn...I have that in mind to post all of these by maybe next week. doing the newsletter now
<MindyMo>   that's great shirley
[Dolores7]   that is all worth it Shirley!
<cajncake>   ok thanks dolores
<LisaOh>   good variety
<ShirleyR>   he gets a B for writing
[Dolores7]   see you all next week I hope...night...