< earlene >   How is your building coming Dolores
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[ Dolores7 ]   We close the deal Tues or Wed. Got the money! Can't wait
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Lizzie...nice to see you again
< Lizzzie >   Wow, I cant believe I made it.
[ Dolores7 ]   HI sCSC
< Lizzzie >   Hi Dolores
[ Dolores7 ]   oops the caps
[ Dolores7 ]   You did it Lizzie...now you're a pro
< earlene >   Great   I talked to Rosemary for about an hour today and she is also trying to get a new building to house her business.
< earlene >   Great Lizzie glad to see you here
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[ Dolores7 ]   Shows how busy she is too.
[ Dolores7 ]   Hit sweet112
< Lizzzie >   Hi, Earlene.
< earlene >   She is working on her new catalog day and night trying to get it out very soon
< Lizzzie >   I've been without a computer for a while and when I got one, I couldn't find anyone.
[ Dolores7 ]   and moving too!
[ Dolores7 ]   Lizzie...no more aol chats
< earlene >   We were all moving Lizzie.
< Shirley_C >   Questions please ........Is there a topic set for tonights chat?
[ Dolores7 ]   we can all chat out here...aol or not
[ Dolores7 ]   My subject is decorated cookies
< sweet112 >   My first chat  going to observe a bit
< Lizzzie >   I think this is really great.
[ Dolores7 ]   okay sweet...sit back and enjoy...chime right in when you want to
< earlene >   Dolores and I have both been so busy we haven't even had time to email one another.  I have a little info on a cake I did last week for you.
< earlene >   I have been out of town for a week and just got home last night
< earlene >   Been playing catch up all day
[ Dolores7 ]   I thought you'd been awful quiet
[ Dolores7 ]   Lizzie...wait til you see how fast we can post messages...the entire recipe at once
< earlene >   I did add new stuff to two web pages today.  Three new cakes and new pictures of my daughters family
[ Dolores7 ]   and you can LOG...just click your right mouse button...choose logging. The log will be in with IRC
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< Shirley_C >   It's a good time for many reason to have a cookie chat ..1) wilton and walmart & etc. is having their cookie decorating contest again next month.  Last year it was very unorganized where I was, but I won some prizes, so I was happy.  I'm going to enter again this year, It was fun!  Anyone else going to enter?
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[ Dolores7 ]   LOVE the family part Earlene
< Lizzzie >   Oh, cool.  I just started my log.
< earlene >   The great thing is you can log all of these chats automatically
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Marmee
[ Dolores7 ]   need to change the name afterwards or it is ammended with the next one added on to the end
< Marmee >   Hi Dolores7
< Lizzzie >   Ok, I'll date it.
[ Dolores7 ]   or rename it - anything
< earlene >   I had fun playing with the pictures I took of all of them last week.  Did something new and different with them.
[ Dolores7 ]   good to date it
[ Dolores7 ]   I need to take beforer & after picts. of the new shop!
[ Dolores7 ]   HI EVERYONE. ITS NOW 9PM EST AND OFFICIALLY TIME TO BEGIN OUR
[ Dolores7 ]   CHAT TONIGHT.
< Marmee >   Will there be a topic tonight?
[ Dolores7 ]   WELCOME TO THE NEW LIVE CHATS BOARD. I, DOLORES MCCANN, ALONG
[ Dolores7 ]   WITH EARLENE MOORE, ARE YOUR HOSTS. WE WILL MEET HERE EVERY
[ Dolores7 ]   1ST TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH (EXCEPT AUGUST , IT'LL BE THE 3RD
[ Dolores7 ]   TUESDAY SINCE THE 1ST TUES. FALLS DURING OUR ICES CONVENTION).
[ Dolores7 ]   YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO MEET HERE ANY DAY OR TIME OF DAY YOU
[ Dolores7 ]   EVER WANT TO. BUT ON ALL TUESDAY NIGHTS WE WILL HAVE A LIVE
[ Dolores7 ]   CHAT. EARLENE OR I MAY OR MAY NOT BE PRESENT. BUT ALL OF YOU
[ Dolores7 ]   CAN MEET AND ENJOY CHATTING REGARDLESS.
[ Dolores7 ]   I should change that...ICES is long over...LOL
< earlene >   Right so you can keep us up to date with the progress as it happens.  Then when we walk in and surprise you we will know where to go and where you have everything. :-)
[ Dolores7 ]   hey...what a great idea! There is room for a slumber party there
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< earlene >   Shows you have been busy
[ Dolores7 ]   HI Nita
< Nita_B >   Hi everyone!
[ Dolores7 ]   IF YOU WANT TO SHARE RECIPES ETC., YOU MAY WANT TO PLAN AHEAD
[ Dolores7 ]   AND TYPE THEM OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER - SAVE AS PURE TEXT FILES.
[ Dolores7 ]   THEN YOU CAN OPEN IT IN NOTEPAD THEN COPY/PASTE IT AS YOU SEND
[ Dolores7 ]   IT UP. TO COPY: HIGHLIGHT JUST ONE LINE OF TEXT AND PRESS KEYS
[ Dolores7 ]   CONTROL AND C. SET YOUR CURSOR ON THE LINE TO WRITE A MESSAGE
[ Dolores7 ]   AND PRESS KEYS CONTROL V. PRESS ENTER TO SEND EACH LINE.
< ShirleyR >   hi Nita_B
< earlene >   That sounds like fun - you think we would get much slumbering done.
[ Dolores7 ]   We could decorate...and we would!
< earlene >   Hello Nita glad to have you here
< earlene >   And I'll bet the talking would go on all night
< Nita_B >   Thanks earlene
[ Dolores7 ]
[ Dolores7 ]   YOU CAN LOG THESE CHATS JUST BY BEING IN THE CHAT THEN PRESS
[ Dolores7 ]   YOUR RIGHT HAND MOUSE BUTTON. THERE YOU WILL SEE LOG. CHOOSE
[ Dolores7 ]   IT AND YOU'LL HAVE A LOG UNTIL YOU DISABLE LOGGING. LOGGING
[ Dolores7 ]   WILL CONTINUE ON THIS FILE. IF YOU WANT TO STOP A LOG EACH
[ Dolores7 ]   TIME, RENAME IT AND START OVER.
[ Dolores7 ]   Yeah...we'd never go to sleep
< Marmee >   Is anyone familar with an icing that is made with melted chocolate chilps?
< earlene >   Sounds good Marmee
[ Dolores7 ]   Marmee...I use our coating chocolate...just add to buttercream
< earlene >   Any porportions used or just add until it looks and tastes right
[ Dolores7 ]   add white coating choc. to buttercream. It is yummy...about 1/2 lb per batch made with 2 lb p. sugar
< Marmee >   This recipe I'm looking for tastes like fugde but can be used to frost and decorate
[ Dolores7 ]   It will break down icing to add too much we found out
< earlene >   OHHHHH Yummmm - If you find it please pass it on to us.
< Marmee >   OK
[ Dolores7 ]   for chocolate icing I just add cocoa to buttercream, then thin it again
[ Dolores7 ]   TONIGHT MY SUBJECT IS GOING TO BE COOKIES:
[ Dolores7 ]   I HAVE MY FAVORITE COOKIE RECIPE TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT. I
[ Dolores7 ]   THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE OF INTEREST SINCE WE ARE GETTING READY
[ Dolores7 ]   FOR 'COOKIE MAKING' TIME. THIS IS A RECIPE FOR CUT-OUT
[ Dolores7 ]   COOKIES. IT DOES WELL WITH THE PRESS TYPE THAT LEAVE THE
[ Dolores7 ]   INDENTIONS IN THE TOP OF THE COOKIE TOO. DON'T BE AFRAID TO
[ Dolores7 ]   ADD A LITTLE BIT OF FLOUR IF DOUGH STICKS TO YOUR CUTTER. BUT
[ Dolores7 ]   NEVER ADD A LOT OR YOUR COOKIES WILL DRY OUT AND BE VERY HARD.
< earlene >   I wonder what would happen if you used hershey's syrup instead of the melted chocolate
< Marmee >   I'll do some investigating!
[ Dolores7 ]   would thin it a lot...kinda messy I'd think...Lizzzie...how do you make chocolate icing?
[ Dolores7 ]      THIS RECIPE IS IN MEAL MASTER FORMAT AND CAN BE IMPORTED
[ Dolores7 ]   DIRECTLY IF YOU HAVE IT. ITS A FREE RECIPE PROGRAM AND I'VE
[ Dolores7 ]   USED IT FOR MANY YEARS. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT ON THE WEB. JUST
[ Dolores7 ]   DO A SEARCH FOR MEAL-MASTER (WITH THE DASH MAY BE BEST).
< ShirleyR >   I dont know earlene ..but it sure does sound good!
< earlene >   If you used it instead of the water?
< traci98 >   sometimes i used pwd sugar to help w/ sticking instead of flour...doesn't dry out as much...
< Lizzzie >   I use cocoa.  The Syrup doesn't work.  It takes tooooo Much.
[ Dolores7 ]   oh - that should work Earlene
[ Dolores7 ]   oh - expense for no reason...hadn't thought...good point
< earlene >   Lizzie has tried it evidently.....
< earlene >   Thanks Lizzie
< sweet112 >   I use a purchased fudge frosting mix as base and then add my own buttercream to it
[ Dolores7 ]   ---------- RECIPE VIA MEAL-MASTER (TM) V8.06
[ Dolores7 ]
[ Dolores7 ]         TITLE: GREAT-SHAPE COOKIES, AN OLD FAMILY RECIPE!
[ Dolores7 ]    CATEGORIES: COOKIES
[ Dolores7 ]         YIELD: 30 SERVINGS
[ Dolores7 ]
[ Dolores7 ]       1/2 CUP BUTTER
[ Dolores7 ]         1 CUP GRANULATED SUGAR
[ Dolores7 ]         2 LARGE EGGS
[ Dolores7 ]         1 TB MILK
[ Dolores7 ]
[ Dolores7 ]   --------------KNEAD IN 1/4 C FLOUR LATER------------
[ Dolores7 ]     2 1/2 CUPS ALL-PURPOSE FLOUR, SAVE 1/4 CUP
[ Dolores7 ]         2 TS BAKING POWDER
[ Dolores7 ]       1/4 TS SALT
[ Dolores7 ]       1/2 TS VANILLA
[ Dolores7 ]       1/2 TS ALMOND
[ Dolores7 ]
[ Dolores7 ]     CHILL DOUGH SEVERAL HOURS OR OVERNIGHT:
[ Dolores7 ]     COULD PUT THE DOUGH IN THE FREEZER
[ Dolores7 ]     TO CHILL, IF IN A HURRY, FOR 1-2 HOURS. HEAT OVEN TO 300
[ Dolores7 ]   DEGREES. GREASE COOKIE SHEET (ONLY ONCE). NO NEED TO GREASE IT EACH TIME.
[ Dolores7 ]       ADD INGREDIENTS TOGETHER, SAVING OUT THE 1/4 CUP OF FLOUR.
[ Dolores7 ]   KNEAD THE 1/4 CUP FLOUR INTO THE DOUGH NOW, CHILL. ROLL OUT, USING FLOUR
[ Dolores7 ]   ON SURFACE, CUTTERS AND ROLLING PIN, GENEROUSLY. TRY TO GET MORE FLOUR
[ Dolores7 ]   ON TINY PLACES.
[ Dolores7 ]        THIS IS A GREAT RECIPE FOR THE CREASED COOKIE CUTTERS,
[ Dolores7 ]   BECAUSE IT IS DELICIOUS AND DOUGH DOES NOT LOSE ITS SHAPE. FOR THIS TYPE
[ Dolores7 ]   OF CUTTER, ROLL TO ABOUT 1/4" THICKNESS, SO DOUGH IS JUST THICK ENOUGH TO
[ Dolores7 ]   LEAVE THE CUTTER IMPRINTS. ORDINARILY, ROLL DOUGH TO 1/4" THICKNESS FOR BEST
[ Dolores7 ]   RESULTS. ANY COOKIE WILL LOSE DETAIL AND SHAPE WHEN IT IS TOO THICK. THIS
[ Dolores7 ]   COOKIE IS GOOD ICED WITH THIN ROYAL ICING. COOKIE STAYS SOFT, BUT IS NOT
[ Dolores7 ]   TERRIBLY FRAGILE.
[ Dolores7 ]     BAKE 8-10 MINUTES OR UNTIL DONE. COOKIES SHOULD NOT BROWN.
[ Dolores7 ]     SOURCE: SHARED WITH ME BY MARY BILLERSEN OF CINCINNATI
[ Dolores7 ]   BECAUSE I HELPED HER REPLACE SOME FAVORITE COOKIE CUTTERS SHE'D LOST. THESE
[ Dolores7 ]   COOKIES HAVE BEEN A TRADITION IN HER FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS. DOLORES
[ Dolores7 ]
[ Dolores7 ]   HINTS:
[ Dolores7 ]   NEVER OVER-BAKE COOKIES! THIS MAKES ANY COOKIE GET HARD
[ Dolores7 ]   FASTER...MAYBE RIGHT AWAY IF TOO OVER-BAKED. MOST COOKIES SHOULD
[ Dolores7 ]   BARELY TURN A TINY BIT BROWN ON THE EDGES. THEY MAY LOOK
[ Dolores7 ]   UNDER-BAKED AND ACTUALLY BE FINISHED. THE COOKIES ABOVE SHOULD
[ Dolores7 ]   NOT BROWN.
< Marmee >   That sounds delicious
[ Dolores7 ]   Sorry...just wanted to do that one time ROFL
< ShirleyR >   I have purchased the chocolate powdered sugar before..and its pretty good
[ Dolores7 ]   SOOOO much better than aol!
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[ Dolores7 ]   If you add dark coating chocoalte to white buttercream it is like mousse...you may eat it before you get it on the cake LOL It is GOOD
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Lynne!
< ShirleyR >   hi lynne2
< Nita_B >   Hi Lynne
< lynne2 >   hello everyone
< earlene >   Hi Lynne -
[ Dolores7 ]   ***ICING FOR COOKIES***
[ Dolores7 ]   I DETEST ROYAL ICING FOR COOKIES! IT DRAWS ALL THE MOISTURE
[ Dolores7 ]   OUT OF THE COOKIE.
[ Dolores7 ]   INSTEAD I USE A SIMPLE MIXTURE OF :
[ Dolores7 ]   DRY CANDY FONDANT
[ Dolores7 ]   WATER (scant amounts per fondant)...don't add much until you see
[ Dolores7 ]   how it incorporates
[ Dolores7 ]   FLAVORING, as desired
[ Dolores7 ]   COLORING, as desired
[ Dolores7 ]   ADD ENOUGH WATER TO MAKE THE ICING LIKE COLOR FLOW. YOU CAN
[ Dolores7 ]   ALWAYS ADD MORE FONDANT IF IT IS TOO THIN. SPREAD ICING ON THE
[ Dolores7 ]   COOKIE, COAXING IT TO THE EDGE, USING A KNIFE. PUT THE COLORED
[ Dolores7 ]   ICING IN A PARCHMENT BAG WITH A WRITING TIP AND DRAW
[ Dolores7 ]   DECORATIONS ON. IF YOU NEED TO MAKE 'STARS' ETC., IT WON'T
[ Dolores7 ]   HARM THE COOKIE TO USE ROYAL ICING JUST FOR THIS.
< earlene >   Boy we really need that speed reading course now   LOL
[ Dolores7 ]     YOU CAN STACK THESE COOKIES WITHOUT THEM STICKING TOGETHER.
[ Dolores7 ]   BUT THIS ICING STAYS PALATABLE AND TASTY SOFT TO EAT. COOKIES
[ Dolores7 ]   ARE MAILABLE. I MAILED SOME TO PORT OF TRINIDAD LAST WINTER!
[ Dolores7 ]   TWO BROKE OUT OF OVER 200.
[ Dolores7 ]   Well...we can read recipes later in our log...maybe I should go slower???
[ Dolores7 ]     DRY CANDY FONDANT IS AVAILABLE FROM OUR CANDY PRODUCTS PAGE
[ Dolores7 ]   AT http://www.sugarcraft.com
[ Dolores7 ]   look at that! It made the link - I can't believe this!
[ Dolores7 ]     THIS IS A SUGAR...NOT POWDERED, NOT GRANULATED, BUT ANOTHER
[ Dolores7 ]   TYPE. IT IS ALSO THE TYPE TO USE WITH PETITE FOURS. FOR THIS I
[ Dolores7 ]   POUR IT OVER THE CAKE, CATCH THE DRIPPINGS AND REUSE. YOU'LL
[ Dolores7 ]   NEED TO HEAT IT A LITTLE BIT...BUT NEVER GET IT HOT! ADD ENOUGH
[ Dolores7 ]   DRY CANDY FONDANT SO THAT IT WILL BE THICK ENOUGH TO COVER THE
[ Dolores7 ]   PETITE FOUR THICKLY ENOUGH SO THAT CAKE DOES NOT SHOW THROUGH
[ Dolores7 ]   THE ICING.
[ Dolores7 ]   HOPE MY RECIPE HAS HELPED TO MAKE YOUR HOLIDAYS A FUN TIME.
[ Dolores7 ]   MAKE GINGERBREAD MEN AND LET THE KIDS PLAY. YOU WILL NEVER
[ Dolores7 ]   FORGET THIS FUN TIME WITH THEM.
[ Dolores7 ]   Thats it folks. Try this cookie recipe...it IS special
[ Dolores7 ]   okay Earlene
< earlene >   OK
< ShirleyR >   Thanks Dolores7
[ Dolores7 ]   welcome Shirley
< earlene >   I had a cake on the 11th that really turned out to be a lot of fun.  The brides dad was having his 50th birthday on her wedding day.  So her mom ordered a $50 dollar bill for his birthday as a surprise at the wedding reception.  I took a 9X 13 and cut two inches off of one side and added it to the end of the cake to make the shape right.  So it ended up being a cake 6 1/2 X  15 to fit the 50 dollar bill shape.
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< Marmee >   On the topic of cookies...thanks to all who responded to my message board request for ideas to fancy up store bought cookies. You're all great
< ShirleyR >   hi Trish
< earlene >   I scanned the 50 dollar bill and enlarged it to the size to fit the top of the cake.  I was absolutely amazed at the detail on the dollar bill now.  I knew right away that I wasn¹t going to get that intricate in the design.  So I layed the scanned - scaled dollar pattern on top of a piece of styrafoam and took a pin and pin pricked (otherwise like sewing with a pin) the basic important lines and details.
< lynne2 >   earlene did you take the i.r.s bite out??
[ Dolores7 ]   For formatting you can take that recipe into WORD and delete my name by pressing Control with F8 and Shift all at once...then delete down rather than accross
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Trish
< Trish >   hi Shirley and everypne :)
< earlene >   i.r.s. bite???
[ Dolores7 ]   Oh...Earlene's a counterfieter
< earlene >   Then I layed that pin pricked pattern on top of the iced cake and airbrushed through those pin holes gently to mark the main patterns on this cake.  I then carefully airbrushed all of the darker green areas and the face.  Piped on the rest of the lettering and numbers that I could.  Then the little tiny writing such as the signatures and Series numbers were painted on with a fine detail brush and air brush color.  I just put this cake picture on
< sweet112 >   Could you scan that on to fondant sheets for printer?
[ Dolores7 ]   Once I freehanded a dollar bill...took me all day
< lynne2 >   yes, yrs ago someone did a  cake like that w/the i.r.s. bite -- bite marks w/a hunk out of the edge
< earlene >   Right a counterfieter that was eaten
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< ShirleyR >   wb Shirley_C
[ Dolores7 ]   Shirley - you got booted again?
< earlene >   Sam Parsley helped me locate some of the grooved-lined mats a couple of weeks ago.  So I know have some of those available if any of you are interested.  I couldn¹t find any here in town and after the demo in MO at ICES I had several phone calls that they were very difficult to find.  Now we have a good source for them.  They are $5 each and $4 for shipping and handling.  Wish they weren¹t so heavy so the postage was less.
[ Dolores7 ]   cute - with a bite out of it
< ShirleyR >   Dolores7  this time it was Shirley_C
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[ Dolores7 ]   what are they for Earlene...the matts?
[ Dolores7 ]   oh...they pick on Shirleys : (
< earlene >   I use those mats to make multiple lines on the sides and tops of the cakes.
< Shirley_C >   ô¿ô Looks that way!  Now I lost you reciepe ... is it the same one on your web-site?
< earlene >   Instead of piping
< ShirleyR >   Shirley_C  as long as you were logging ..you should still have it
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< lynne2 >   earlene, are there any pix of cakes w/those marks on your site?
[ Dolores7 ]   I don't know if I ever put that recipe there...but you'll still have your log...it will ammend...just start logging again now
< ShirleyR >   hi SusanM
[ Dolores7 ]   hi Susan!
< SusanM >   Hi Everybody.
< ohmigosh >   Hi Sue.
< Marmee >   Hi Susan
< earlene >   I think one of the package cakes has those lines on the sides
< lynne2 >   hi SusanM
< earlene >   Just a second and I will check for you
< Nita_B >   Hi SusanM
[ Dolores7 ]   There was BIG pkg cake in the Cincinnati paper Sunday...a big page about it
< Shirley_C >   I was trying to figure out the logging when I disappeared/
< traci98 >   Shirley_C, it's in this months newsletter if you need to download it....(cookie recipe)
[ Dolores7 ]   Shirley...right click on the page and the screen pops up
< ShirleyR >   Shirley_C  just rightclick on this page
< Marmee >   I'm still looking for additional ideas for ways to transform store-bought cookies into something special. It's for a group of 12-13 year olds
[ Dolores7 ]   Those cookies NEED icing...or you can add more spices too of course
[ Dolores7 ]   Marmee...nothing takes the place of chocolate chip cookies!
< Shirley_C >   I get  LOGGING, the enable or options..
[ Dolores7 ]   enable
< Marmee >   Like Oreos, Nutter Butter, etc.
< lynne2 >   marmee, i'll e-mail you a couple of pix
< ShirleyR >   earlene  I love that fishing box cake you have made..on youre website..it is so neat!
[ Dolores7 ]   wasn't there something on oreos in the Family Fun mag?
< Marmee >   Thanks lhnne2
[ Dolores7 ]   familyfun.com
< Marmee >   Thanks Dolores7
[ Dolores7 ]   I do too love the fishing box! I'd love to have time to do that
< Shirley_C >   I did that, now where do I go to see the logged information later?
< earlene >   I checked and on the Feb 98 page the package cake has the lines on the next to the bottom cake.
[ Dolores7 ]   welcome
< ShirleyR >   Shirley_C  it will be in your Virc folder
< earlene >   That fishing creel cake was a lot of work.
< lynne2 >   thanks for ck'ing earlene
[ Dolores7 ]   Shirley...look in with IRC program...mine is called cakedecorators.txt I think
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[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Mikke
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Pam
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< ShirleyR >   hi Mikkke
< Nita_B >   Hi Mikkke
< Mikkke >   good evening evertone
< lynne2 >   hello pam & mike
< ShirleyR >   hi PamG
[ Dolores7 ]   Isisgirl - hello
< ShirleyR >   hi Isisgirl
< Nita_B >   hi PamG
< Mikkke >   wgat are we talking about?
[ Dolores7 ]   Shirley...that is cakedecorators.log
< earlene >   That other fishing cake with the diamonds on the side was more time consumming that I had planed on.
< Isisgirl >   Hello All!!!!
< SusanM >   Hi!
< Marmee >   Welcome Isis
< Mikkke >   Hi
< earlene >   But that creel cake took looooooooottttts of time and it was a creative challenge
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[ Dolores7 ]   Maybe one of these days I'll get to play and do fancy cakes again...seems impossible right now
< ohmigosh >   any helpful  suggestions on your castle cake earlene?
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< ShirleyR >   oh no shirley_C got booted again :(
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[ Dolores7 ]   what sizes were the square cakes on the castle...10"?
< ShirleyR >   wb Shirley_C
< Shirley_C >   That time it was me.
< earlene >   I had hoped to have those patterns and instructions for the castle cake done by now.  But alas my schedule has not allowed me that time yet.
< Shirley_C >   BRB I hope!
< earlene >   THe castle cake was three layer 12" square cakes on the bottom and 2 layer 6" cake on the top
< ShirleyR >   Time..I have all the time in the world..lol
[ Dolores7 ]   NOTICE::: if you've been on awhile your carrier may kick you off for being idle...they can't tell you are here....click anything on AOL, Netscape etc...whoever you use and you won't be kicked off.
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[ Dolores7 ]   sweet...you're back : )
< ShirleyR >   wb sweet112
< lynne2 >   they can always say hi to any newcomer.
< scsc >   Earlene, what all will your groom's cake (buttercream) class in Richardson cover?
< earlene >   If you will say something once in a while it will probably help also
< earlene >   scsc  that class has been canceled because not enough people signed up for the class
< scsc >   bummer
< Marmee >   How many people are required?
< earlene >   She only had three in each class - a minimum of six is needed
[ Dolores7 ]   I don't think it helps from here....your ISP thinks you are idle is whats wrong. I keep Netscape open to my message board and just click on something once in awhile - easiest for me
< sweet112 >   AOL what's to say!
< Marmee >   Will you offer if again?
[ Dolores7 ]   Sweet...open aol and do anything...yeah aol is a real bummer
< earlene >   I will probably offer it here at the house again in about a year and a half.
< ShirleyR >   I have my icq open..it helps me
< earlene >   Next years schedule is already full of classes, shows and etc.
[ Dolores7 ]   I am REALLY planning on having Earlene to Ohio to teach ina year or so
< Marmee >   I wish groom's cakes would catch on here in St. Louis!
< earlene >   OHHHHHH  that sounds like fun - can I come  LOL
< SusanM >   What did you all think about Collette Peters responding on the message board?
< Marmee >   I was amazed
< lynne2 >   surprise:)
[ Dolores7 ]   right Shirley...your provider sees that you are not idle that way. You can keep aol open too...click on it at the bottom and do something to keep from getting kicked offline
< earlene >   She is a great person.  Just down home like the rest of us.
< ShirleyR >   earlene  what do you need to teach basic cake decorating?? I am thinking of doing that here in my home
< Marmee >   Do you think it was really her?
[ Dolores7 ]   yes I know! We are very popular aren't we : )
< ohmigosh >   Dolores any word on when you'll carry those pearl formers you where all talking about from convention?
< lynne2 >   doesshe read it often or did someone tell her about some perticular ?s
< earlene >   I just got some of those pearl formers in yesterday
[ Dolores7 ]   yes it WAS her I'd bet on it...she loves rolled fondant and just HAD to comment I bet
< SusanM >   That's so neat.  You never know who is out there.
< Lizzzie >   What are Pearl Formers???
< traci98 >   Marmee, i looked at her e-mail address and i think it was hers....(not that i email her, but...) LOL
< earlene >   She is a really neat person -
[ Dolores7 ]   pearl formers....we've ordered them but they arent sending them with orders we've gotten so far...I think they are REAL new
< SusanM >   Were going BIG TIME girls!
< Marmee >   Now...what if Martha is reading? LOL
< lynne2 >   are those pearl formers really worth the expense & work?
< sweet112 >   When you make the pearls are they dusted to give a shine ?
< SusanM >   Good one.
< earlene >   CK has some new silicone pearl makers - I just got them in and am dying to try them.  I think I am going to call Orlie though and see if they can make them larger.
[ Dolores7 ]   Lizzzie at ICES CK made edible pearl strands with small molds...dif sizes
< earlene >   I have another cake ordered - but I sure need bigger pearls
[ Dolores7 ]   I wonder how hard those tiny pearls dry to before they're eaten...may be dangerous?
< earlene >   They come in 4mm and 6 mm sizes now
< lynne2 >   good point dolores
< earlene >   Made from fondant they should be fine.
< Marmee >   I've wondered about that too. Dolores
[ Dolores7 ]   Lynne...I think Colette reads the board often. Its amazing all that is posted there
< earlene >   They are made after the fondant icing is on the cake so they shouldn't get much harder than the icing
< ohmigosh >   are they formed individually or in a strand?
< PamG >   Whose message board - Earlene's or Dolores'?
[ Dolores7 ]   IF they stay good and soft. I like the Idea...that they're edible
[ Dolores7 ]   Mine Pam
< PamG >   Oh, okay.  Thanks.
< earlene >   They are in a strand about 6 inches long
[ Dolores7 ]   Pam...Colette Peters...will have a new book out in a few months too
< ShirleyR >   PamG  did you get my email??
< earlene >   They sure are a lot safer than the artifical pearls on the cakes
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[ Dolores7 ]   That is true Earlene
< Marmee >   How much does the pearl former(s)? cost?
< PamG >   I hear GOOO8/Janice has ordered some of the pearl molds.  I'll see her in October, so maybe I'll get to try them out.
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< Isisgirl >   Is there a specific topic tonight or is it an open discussion??
< ShirleyR >   hi Sara_225
< earlene >   the 4mm is about 17.50 and the 6mm is about 19.00
< PamG >   About the books?
< ohmigosh >   Have you seen the new book by the gal from Creative Cutters?
[ Dolores7 ]   Guess I just can't get them wholesale ! Everyone else is getting the pearl molds
< lynne2 >   hello sara.....welcome, how's it down there?
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Sara
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< earlene >   Sure you can Dolores - I did
[ Dolores7 ]   Isis...was but we sent it already...email me and I will send you the log upon request
< Sara_225 >   Hi  what a lot of people here!!!!
< PamG >   Shirley R - about the books?
[ Dolores7 ]   sweet is back!
< earlene >   Mine just came yesterday
< ShirleyR >   PamG  Im not sure..lol
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< Isisgirl >   thanks
< sweet112 >   Glad I enabled logging first thing
< traci98 >   Sara_225...tonight is the "official" chat night....
< ShirleyR >   PamG  it was something you were interested in..lol
< Sara_225 >   Hi SHIRLEYr Hi Dolores7 hi everyone
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< PamG >   Shirley R - Oh, I remember now - from when I first visited this site.  I don't remember getting it.  Sorry.
< Marmee >   Hi Sara
< earlene >   Hi Sara
[ Dolores7 ]   book by Creative Cutters?
< Isisgirl >   I always miss the chat nights.  bummer...
< Nita_B >   Hi Sara
< earlene >   Geraldine had a new book at ICES
< SusanM >   Geraldine Randlesome (Canadian) from Creative Cutters.
< lynne2 >   yes, tell us aboutthat new book
[ Dolores7 ]   what about Earlene?
< Shirley_C >   Cookie questions please ... Dolores ... Can you use flavoring oils in you icing?
< ShirleyR >   PamG  I sent it..but used all capitals letters ..was that the way it was supposed to be done..thats the way you put it up
[ Dolores7 ]   by all means Shirley...or in icing or anything...only use small amounts
< Sara_225 >   Hi hi Hi Hi Hi....LoL
< earlene >   Really different looking cakes - not much instruction except for how to use their new products such as the mats
[ Dolores7 ]   NOT oils when using royal icing tho
< PamG >   It really shouldn't matter on AOL - not case sensitive.  Possible to send it again?
< ohmigosh >   There was some really nice cakes ....lots of pictures but Earlene is right not much for directions
< earlene >   A young man from wales (I think) did all the flowers for the cakes in that book
[ Dolores7 ]   Pam...what do you mean?
< ShirleyR >   PamG  only if I can think of what it was..lol
< PamG >   Sorry - message was for Shirley R regarding an e-mail she had sent me.  Didn't mean to confuse.
< lynne2 >   any one have a recipe for 'pecan sandies'??
[ Dolores7 ]   sorry...I was confused
< Lizzzie >   This is a great chat, but I'd better hit the books.  I gotta take the Food Handlers Test tomorrow.
< Marmee >   My husband LOVES those!
< lynne2 >   so do we:)
[ Dolores7 ]   books Lizzie....going to schoool?
< ohmigosh >   Lynne Geraldine may be in Newark....according to the owner of Sugar and Spice
< lynne2 >   keep me informed trish
< lynne2 >   good luck tomorrow lizzie
< traci98 >   Sorry, but I'm confused about when the official chats will be held from now on ...every tues or every other or one per month????
< SusanM >   Good Luck on your test, Lizzzie.
< Lizzzie >   Florida food handler  Test. Required every 5 years.
< ohmigosh >   I won't know till we gat there...lol
< Lizzzie >   Thanks, Goodnight all.
< Marmee >   lynne2, if you locate a recipe, please e-mail me.
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< PamG >   Shirley R - I think your e-mail was you were going to send me picture of Mercedes' cake, but I found a copy.  Memory is coming back.
[ Dolores7 ]   I looked for Pecan Sandies. I know I have that somewhere...prob at work, not on this one
< lynne2 >   marmee, i think my ? got lost in the conversation:)
< Marmee >   I think so too
[ Dolores7 ]   glad I don't have to attend that school --- yet LOL
< Isisgirl >   I always use foil to cover my cake circles,,,,,had a former instructor tell me it is a bad thing to do.  Do you all use foil?
< earlene >   traci98 this room is available anytime cake decorators want to chat.  Right now Dolores and I will try to be here weekly but we will have information posting chats for sure on the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays for you
[ Dolores7 ]   Don't use foils that the color comes off...use reynolds wrap etc...or Wilton's food approved
< lynne2 >   earlene, traci & i know about everynight:)  along w/a couple of others
< earlene >   I use the foil but I also cover a circle just smaller than the cake with white contact paper
< Shirley_C >   I've never seen these, how are they connected?
[ Dolores7 ]   fun - this room!
< Marmee >   I think the colored foils look beautiful, but I put a buffer of waxed paper between the cake and the foil
< ShirleyR >   PamG  yes thats was it..sorry
< traci98 >   yes i've been losing lost of sleep lately!!!
< SusanM >   Me too.  We have a good time.
< lynne2 >   my cakes are sooo moist waxed paper falls apart:(
< earlene >   cakedecoratoritis traci98
[ Dolores7 ]   me too Lynne...I was thinking that
< traci98 >   exactly!
< PamG >   LOL!\
< SusanM >   he he he
< Sara_225 >   Hi ShirleyC
< Isisgirl >   ty everyone.  I have been confused about it.  I do use the foil in grocery stores for food.
[ Dolores7 ]   But I've even used paper...like on my sculptured pig cake...then I covered it with plastic wrap...that works (like Saran)
< Isisgirl >   cool pig it was too!!!!
< lynne2 >   i have ?s about that pig
[ Dolores7 ]   ok
< lynne2 >   i have to make mine for fri
[ Dolores7 ]   long time ago that I made that
< lynne2 >   how did you lmake the 'haunches'?
[ Dolores7 ]   I saw that you did...why I posted that pict
< lynne2 >   and how much did you charge
< lynne2 >   the pic helps alot.  thanks for posting it
[ Dolores7 ]   I CARVED out those sheet cakes, leaving extra here and there, or adding pieces of cake to build out...and ice over it
< lynne2 >   did you airbrush the color on
[ Dolores7 ]   I charged $50.00...but it ook SO long...wouldn't take so long next time...I was feeling my way
< ohmigosh >   LOL..now I'm even more impressed
< earlene >   Picture jogged my mind Dolores -  Could you send me the picture of the group at the ICES show.  I tried to print it and only got you, sam and janice
< SusanM >   Could you use the sports ball pan and lay it on its side then carve it down to the body shape you want.
[ Dolores7 ]   It was for a pig roast for a local school district....looked more like pork that cake LOL
< lynne2 >   i'm going to do it almost that way except use 2 14" rounds cut in 1/2 instead of sheets
< Shirley_C >   earlene ? How are the pearls connected to make the pearls a strand?
[ Dolores7 ]   For a small one maybe Susan
< SusanM >   Oh, yours was a biggie piggie, eh?
< Marmee >   earlene, do you have a picture of a cake with the fondant pearls?
[ Dolores7 ]   sure Earlene...but I don't have it on this computer. I'll lighten it a bit for you using iPhoto Express...will be better
< traci98 >   i bought some Rich's bettercream today...have never used it yet..anything i should know??? how does it pipe for roses/borders,etc. also??
< lynne2 >   my customer specified 20" long; 8" high and 10" wide
< earlene >   One side of the pearls isn't totally clean and that side goes to toward the base of the cake.  That hold them together
[ Dolores7 ]   big pig - yes...maybe served 75 or so...was half sheets stacked...
[ Dolores7 ]   oh my Lynne!
< Marmee >   Bettercream works great for roses
< SusanM >   Wow.
< earlene >   I just got that mold myself so I haven't used it yet
< Sara_225 >   Dolores  7  I discovered that the printer 5100 works only on 110 voltage how about 4650  do you have any idea about it?
< earlene >   The only cake I have so far I made each pearl individually and that is really a big pain
[ Dolores7 ]   traci...fine forroses...the longer you beat, the stiffer it gets
< Marmee >   traci98---e-mail me about the Bettercream
< lynne2 >   has anyone seen rich's 'golden topping'?  my store is carring it instead of bettercreme
[ Dolores7 ]   don't know about a 4650...are you in another country?
< traci98 >   ok Dolores7, thanks!
[ Dolores7 ]   I haven't seen that Lynne
< Sara_225 >   yes i am
[ Dolores7 ]   KopyKake has 220 I suppose - on theirs. I think you can change voltage pieces...KK is sending a guy in UK that today...they sent 110 in error
< earlene >   I have a customer who called today and needs to know if I can find an icing that will not have soy in it.  Does the bettercream contain soy?  Would one of you who uses it please check for me?
< Sara_225 >   does anyone have an idea abouty the printer 4650?
[ Dolores7 ]   HE IS CHANGING IT HIMSELF
< Shirley_C >   Hi Sasa 225
< traci98 >   got mine right here earlene, i'll look
[ Dolores7 ]   Sara...call or email KopyKake and see if they can tell you
< Marmee >   I'll check for you earlene
< earlene >   I did not realize that Crisco is nearly all soy
< Sara_225 >   Hi Shirley_c
< SusanM >   It is?????
[ Dolores7 ]   I didn't either Earlene!
< lynne2 >   how did you find that out earlene??
< PamG >   News to me, too!
[ Dolores7 ]   Guess they are allergic to Soy
< traci98 >   earlene, it has soy oil, and soy protein concentrate....
[ Dolores7 ]   Lynne...is that topping gold colored like butter?
< Isisgirl >   Are you all getting lots of orders for the pictures on cakes.  Just wondering what my next investment should be.
< earlene >   she is highly alergic to that -  I didn't know that either until I read the ingredient list - it is right there on the label.  She said nearly all the shortnings available in the supermarket are soy
< earlene >   I guess that is out to.  Thanks traci
< lynne2 >   i don't know -- didn't buy any.  have it w/the pastry pride
[ Dolores7 ]   Isisgirl...my business is slowly increasing
< PamG >   Well, that's good, right?  Unless you're allergic to soy, of course.
[ Dolores7 ]   I was doing picts. for a mail order comapany but they were a real pain. They won't EVER pay me on time, then they make mistakes...owe me from back in May!
[ Dolores7 ]   I bet I print a frosting picture at least everyday...mostly 2-3-4 a day.
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< sweet112 >   Isisgirl...printer is a sound investment for the return it brings in business
[ Dolores7 ]   Printer pays for itself
< ShirleyR >   hi jean
< ohmigosh >   hi Jean
[ Dolores7 ]   Hi Srg...nice to see you finally
< SusanM >   Hi Jeannie.
< earlene >   I would bet that those picture cakes will revolutionize the cake bakery industry once people see them
< Sgr >   Hi everyone! Wow lot's of people here tonight
< Sara_225 >   Shirley_C  has your father birthday passed or not ?
[ Dolores7 ]   They certainly seem to be.
< Shirley_C >   I've still got a questions about those pearl molds.  How are the pearls connected to make the strand?
[ Dolores7 ]   yeah we're gabby tonight
< Isisgirl >   ty again all.......would soy be considered a vegetable fat?
< earlene >   They are made from fondant, choco paste or gumpaste and the mold make them in a 6 inch strand.
[ Dolores7 ]   Isisgirl...I have the BJC5100 and it is grand!
< SusanM >   From soy beans - aren't they a vegetable (plant)?
< Marmee >   Is the pearl strand then just pressed into the soft icing?
< Isisgirl >   That's what I am considering Dolores.  thanks
[ Dolores7 ]   can you tell where the pearls are connected?
< lynne2 >   earlene, i just ck'd pastry pride -- i guess you can't get it but the only soy it contains is soy licithin conmpared to the other w/soybean oil
< Sara_225 >   i'll be back probably in half an hour...bye
[ Dolores7 ]   there is going to be a 6000 soon...ink cartridges sep. for ea color...but doesn't do 11x17 sheets
[ Dolores7 ]   ok Sara
< earlene >   The front side of the strand comes out clean and looks great.  The back side of the strand has some icing where the pearls are connected and not wonderfully clean round pearls.  But if you put that down to the base of the cake it won't be seen and connects the pearls to keep them from coming from together
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< Isisgirl >   I think I would like the larger prints.
< earlene >   I guess if you were doing scollops of pearls on the side of the cake you could just press that part into the cake icing
< SusanM >   Earlene:  would it be easier to make piped round balls that just look like pearls?
[ Dolores7 ]   I have only had one request for the large...the sheets cost twice that of the small ones. I am charging $12.00
< ohmigosh >   has any one tried those pearl/ball plunger set that Rosemary Watson carries?
< Shirley_C >   Sara 225 would a converter work, what voltage do you need?
[ Dolores7 ]   Susan...this makes a 6" strand all at one time...may be a little faster
< SusanM >   O.K.  Just seems like a lot of fuss for some balls.
< Isisgirl >   well maybe I don't need that then.....ty Dolores
[ Dolores7 ]   Sara left...but she can get the other coltage I think, then install it herself
< earlene >   B ut can you brush the pearl dust on those to really look like pearls.  The instructions say to brush the mold inside with the pearl dust and then put the fondant in so they come out already dusted with the pearl dust
< SusanM >   Oh, I see.  Thank you.
[ Dolores7 ]   Isisgirl...the 5100 is THe BEST. i HAVE THE 6000 BUT THE INK ISN'T READY YET
< PamG >   I would assume the pearl dust also helps with release from the mold, too.
< Marmee >   It would really be neat to see an article with color photos using the fondant pearls!
< earlene >   Probably so.  I can see I must find some time to play with that mold
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[ Dolores7 ]   bet that doesn't happen soon - demo pict
< ohmigosh >   you must go through lots of pearl dus?
< Shirley_C >   Is no one talking, or am I stuck in time here?
< earlene >   Drop the ACD magazine and request that article
[ Dolores7 ]   shirley is stuck in time lapse
< Marmee >   Good idea!!!
< earlene >   LOL  Drop them an email would probably work better
[ Dolores7 ]   great idea Earlene!
< Marmee >   Okay
< ohmigosh >   I still haven't gotton the latest issue of ACD :(
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[ Dolores7 ]   got mine 2 wks ago...they don't send them all out at once...like he explained on the message board that time
< ShirleyR >   I got mine ohmigosh ..oct 99??
< ohmigosh >   I know but the local shop and Michael
< sweet112 >   Gumpaste poinsettias Are they hard to do?I have a Christmas wedding that wants them on cake.
< ohmigosh >   have yet to recieve theirs either :(
< lynne2 >   trish, want i should get you one?
[ Dolores7 ]   I use the pointsettias that I buy...they look very real...or make them in royal icing, thats easy
< lynne2 >   it's been so long since i did them i can't remember at all sweet112
< ohmigosh >   thanks Lynne...I just have to be more patient...lol
< ShirleyR >   I finally got a wilton 2000 yearbook..at walmart friday
< lynne2 >   i prefee to make them in royal.
[ Dolores7 ]   I got the hardback...stashing that one!
< earlene >   I do have a cake on my web site with pearls at the bottom borders made from fondant.  But they were each individually made.  It is on the September 99 calendar listing - not on the September 99 under the flashing LOOK
[ Dolores7 ]   me too...on the royal...the GP ones are real big like real ones
< ShirleyR >   Dolores7  does the hardback one have the same things the yearbook has in it?
< sweet112 >   thanks I'll have to try sample both ways
< SusanM >   I think Creative Cutters had poinsettia cutters that looked good.
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< SusanM >   Do you have them as well, Dolores.
[ Dolores7 ]   yes Shirley, it does...it is for collectors...will never be the yr2000 again...think what it will be worth in 50 years LOl
< ShirleyR >   wb Shirley_C
< lynne2 >   sweet112  use tip 74 to make them
< ShirleyR >   Dolores7  save me one..lol
[ Dolores7 ]   yes we have them...only one shipment...then we cannot get anymore, very limited
[ Dolores7 ]   will do Shirley
< earlene >   Is the info inside the same Dolores?
< ShirleyR >   thanks Dolores7
[ Dolores7 ]   I use tip 352 for pointsettias and the lily nail only don't push the foil all the way down in
[ Dolores7 ]   yes...the same...just for collectors
< earlene >   I love the gp poinsettias - so realistic looking
[ Dolores7 ]   I've made the big gp pointsettias...takes a lot of time
< ohmigosh >   whats the best veiners to purchase...there seems to be so may types out there
< earlene >   Put them together while they are wet and it takes less time
< ShirleyR >   lets see,,,in 50 years..I'll be getting near 100 in age..lol
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< earlene >   Silicone seem to vein the most realistically
[ Dolores7 ]   veiners...I use corn shuck sometimes...like it best for some things
< Isisgirl >   Well have a good nigh all.....Gotta get some shut eye.....night!!
< earlene >   Me to - close to 100 only on the other side LOL
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< Sgr >   poor Shirley_C is having the same problem I had last night
[ Dolores7 ]   I have a gold colored veiner I use for daisies that works best...don't know who by
< ShirleyR >   lol earlene
< sweet112 >   I used to do mine on the plastic poinsettia which had a lot of detail.Coat with candy and lift off assemble on cakes.But you can't buy plastic flowers anymore.
< ShirleyR >   wb shirley_C
[ Dolores7 ]   Hu Sugar...
< Sugarrush >   OH MY GOSH!  I thought Y2K struck and all the computers died at once.  Except mine, can't figure that one out.  Where did you all go?   I was getting lonesome in here all by myself!
< ohmigosh >   what is corn shuck...a brand name?
< SusanM >   he he he
< lynne2 >   husk trish
[ Dolores7 ]   I saved plastic flowers! I use the rose leaf to vein
< SusanM >   Must be a city girl!
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< Nita_B >   LOL Sugarrush
< Sugarrush >   OOPS! now I'm on as both Shirley C and Sugarrushs.
< SusanM >   Dolores - great idea.
< earlene >   Sugarrush we have been hear all night
[ Dolores7 ]   Sugar...we've been here...didn't see you
< ohmigosh >   Hey gals I just copied what she wrote...lol
[ Dolores7 ]   Susan...most realistic veiner
< Marmee >   Has anyone ever had a disaster using REAL flowers on a cake?
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< earlene >   Nope - at least not yet.
< SusanM >   I will be hunting at garage sales now, Dolores!
[ Dolores7 ]   corn shuck...what corn ear of corn is on ROFL!
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< earlene >   Except what some of the florist do with the flowers - sometimes that is pretty sad
< lynne2 >   well one time i was handed several buckets of fresh cut flowers from someones garden & told to put them on cake.  little black bugs crawled all over the cake
< lynne2 >   that's why i don't do flowers anymore:)
< Marmee >   Yech!
< earlene >   I have one florist in town that makes arrangments tight, full and straight.  You can't bend them or make them fit anything
< Shirley_C >   Am I the only one to lost here?
< earlene >   Yuck
[ Dolores7 ]   Marmee...I sure have! Recently their flowers were so tall there was no way to assemble the cake. Thank goodness the florist was still there and had to do the fixing
< ohmigosh >   well I'm off to the store to buy corn....what to do, the frozen and can stuff won't do me any good...lol
< SusanM >   Ohmigosh:  you could come over to my house tonight as I have piles of corn husks from dinner. he he
< Marmee >   What do you say to a customer who wants fresh flowers on her wedding cake?
< Sgr >   we'll have to mail her some. LOL
[ Dolores7 ]   ohmigosh...the corn shuck needs to be very dry before you use it...let it set out a week or more
< lynne2 >   i tell them it's a trade off of good luck vs poisions
< earlene >   You have to go to the tamale factory to buy them.  Want me to send you a package
[ Dolores7 ]   i let them use real flowers but they are sure posin and nasty
< SusanM >   Ohmigosh:  ask your produce manager for a husk.  He'll probably think your nuts, but what the heck!
< ohmigosh >   tamale factory.....lol
< lynne2 >   she can buy them dried in the store around here
[ Dolores7 ]   I'll send you some from my garden...seriously
< SusanM >   Me too.  Seriously before the cows get them.
< earlene >   The pedro tamale factory is right down the road from me.  So if I need them when I can't get them from the garden I go down there and buy a few
< Marmee >   Are ANY flowers safe to use on cakes?
< Marmee >   Besides icing flowers!
< earlene >   The flowers that are edible are safe
< ohmigosh >   okay ...never taught of tamale wraps
< earlene >   if you wash them
[ Dolores7 ]   they say there are organic real flowers...but on a chat once someone said the flowers really weren't organically grown after all
< Shirley_C >   Please respond ..... Is anything I'm saying coming through?  I really don't think I'm working right.
< earlene >   I guess you could buy tamales, wash the husks and dry them out.  Might be a little spicy on the flowers.  LOL
< lynne2 >   yes shirley
< traci98 >   shirley...i can see you.....
[ Dolores7 ]   real flowers belong in vases and icing flowers belong on cakes!!!! quote
< ShirleyR >   Shirley_C  yes I see you :)
< Nita_B >   I'm reading you Shirley_C
< earlene >   Shirley we are seeing you loud and clear
< Shirley_C >   Thank you very much!
< Marmee >   Hey...an idea for a future chat topic...disasters and how to prevent them!!
< Shirley_C >   Did everyone leave and come back or what?
[ Dolores7 ]   shirley...are you  using aol?
< earlene >   Maybe how we recovered from out disasters would be better
< ohmigosh >   around these parts tamales are easy to come by....people on every corner selling them...lol    Right Lynne?
[ Dolores7 ]   we aren't having probls Shirley
< traci98 >   no Shirley_C, we've been here..
< Shirley_C >   NO.
< lynne2 >   sure are trish
< Marmee >   earlene...I love it!
< ShirleyR >   Shirley_C  ,,you left and came back..we all stayed here
< Nita_B >   Happened to me last week Shirley _C.....they said I got booted.  LOL
[ Dolores7 ]   disasters...will remember that...let us know what topics you'd like for the future
< earlene >   We had our disaster stories on the AOL message board before someone decided to re do it for us
< SusanM >   If you post too many disaster, nervous "Nellies" like me won't do wedding cakes.
< ohmigosh >   Lynne, ever wonder why those people aren't afraid of the health dept  ?
< lynne2 >   sure have!!  i hear the health dept around here is cracking down hard at private parties etc
< earlene >   Remember Susan some of us have been doing cakes for over 40 years and in those 40 years some things are bound to have happened
< lynne2 >   hubby talked to a caterer the other day.  they got her for having run out of paper towels to dry hands
< ohmigosh >   whats this i HEARD on the radio about a new law that takes effect on 1-1-00 about food handeling?
< SusanM >   Thanks, Earlene.  It is really wonderful to hear how people work through some of their disasters.  Great stuff.
< ohmigosh >   a Ca law
< ShirleyR >   wb Dolores7
[ Dolores7 ]   my computer started running really slow so I exited and returned
< Marmee >   sweet112, I explain that I've got kids in the house and it wouldn't be appropriate
< SusanM >   Lynne:  Sounds wild.  I don't think I would want a piece of THAT cake!
[ Dolores7 ]   I think I was out of recourses from going back & forth to Netscape
< earlene >   I just plain tell them I refuse to do those cakes.  Someone in town is giving out my name that I will do them and I would love to wring that persons neck or drown them in icing
< ohmigosh >   the new law I was talking about is in California
[ Dolores7 ]   what cakes Earlene?
< lynne2 >   one person on premises must be certified in food handling.  cost about $100 to take course.
< earlene >   I am getting one to three calls a week about the suggestive cakes.
< lynne2 >   done in about 3 wknd classes
[ Dolores7 ]   oh...bad nasty cakes!
< ohmigosh >   lol
< earlene >   Right - who would want to eat that.   Yuck
< Sgr >   I also let people know I don't do body parts or dirty cakes
[ Dolores7 ]   When I did cakes at home (small ones etc) I had a rule that if I had to hide them from the kids I shouldn't do them
< lynne2 >   i tell people i do not do x-rated period!   i love it -- they usually can't even aske for them, talk all around the ? :)
< Shirley_C >   Is that all food handles, like waitress etc, or just cooks and chief?
< Marmee >   me too, Dolores
< earlene >   Good rule
< lynne2 >   i'm not sure shirley.  i know the local supply shop had to comply because they sell candy
[ Dolores7 ]   thats what I told my customers too
< SusanM >   Good responses to a tricky issue.
< earlene >   What do you do if two men walk in to order a wedding cake?
[ Dolores7 ]   that baby cake they were talking about on the message board was pure sick!
< earlene >   A friend had that happen to her
[ Dolores7 ]   oh Earlene...did they???
< lynne2 >   never had 2 at once, but have taken orders from several men
< Nita_B >   I thought so too, Dolores
< Marmee >   I didn't read about that...what was it, Dolores?
< Sgr >   I didn't read about that one
[ Dolores7 ]   Lynne...the 2 men were getting married together LOL
[ Dolores7 ]   on the top Marmee...real sick
< lynne2 >   ooooooooh!  i don't think like that & didn't catch it.
[ Dolores7 ]   LOL
< sweet112 >   Haven't had that happen,but I suppose I'd show them the books and discuss what they liked,same as any other couple.
< earlene >   I have had dads come in and order cakes for their daughters but I hope I never have two men order a wedding cake order their own wedding cake
< Shirley_C >   Lynn2 ... I picture if that was here in Las Vegas, there would be about half a million people lining up at the doors for the classes.
[ Dolores7 ]   but they could sue you if you refused...think of it
< PamG >   Gotta go!  Catch you guys later!
[ Dolores7 ]   by Pam
< ShirleyR >   bye PamG
< Sgr >   nite PamG
< Nita_B >   bye Pam
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< Shirley_C >   Bye Pam
< ShirleyR >   wb Sara_225
< earlene >   Or price it high so that maybe they would go somewhere else
[ Dolores7 ]   I would be so uneasy that I would just say I am booked already. I wouldn't insult them or hurt their feelings
< Sara_225 >   Thank you ShirleyR
< earlene >   But I have my prices right on my cakes so that won't work for me
< ohmigosh >   why?
< Shirley_C >   Sara .. Before you left I was asking what voltage you need?
[ Dolores7 ]   ...better to be 'booked'
< SusanM >   Am I lost here?  You are talking about two gay fellows wanting to order a wedding cake?
< earlene >   I ask about dates before I even let them come to the house so if they get through my door I would have a hard time saying I was already booked
[ Dolores7 ]   needs 220, right?
[ Dolores7 ]   yes Susan...sleepy LOL
< Sgr >   the prices on your pics. earlene?
< SusanM >   I don't see what the problem is with that.
[ Dolores7 ]   guess so Earlene
< earlene >   Right
< Sara_225 >   i need 220vol
< lynne2 >   yes, i think i'd dbl ck my schedule & not be available
< ohmigosh >   you would lie just because they where gay?
< Sara_225 >   yes Dolores right
[ Dolores7 ]   Sara...get that from KopyKake and have it installed. I know they carry them
< SusanM >   What would be difficult about doing the cake for them.
< Shirley_C >   Would a converter work, I don't know .. I've never traveled, but I know they sell them for overseas travel.
[ Dolores7 ]   The guy in the UK is doing that Sara and friends had told him it is easy to exchange voltage.
< earlene >   I guess because it would really comprimise my beliefs on the sanctity of marriage
[ Dolores7 ]   I wouldn't even try a converter like for hairdryers. Printers are too sensitive...My 5100 even had to have one of those fancy new black cables
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< lynne2 >   i started to reply they are paying customers just like everyone else, but then i refuse to do x-rated:(
< SusanM >   Oh, I understand.  It is getting to be so common around here, I guess I wouldn't think of it that way.
< Sara_225 >   yes they've told me it comes wiyh small transformer i'm not sure if this effecting the printer after using along time or not? what do you think?
[ Dolores7 ]   I wouldn't try to use 110 sara...you can damge your printer and the warranty won't be valid
< ohmigosh >   but we're not selling our beliefs and we're all allowed to hold those close....all we are doing is selling a cake
< lynne2 >   i think i might discuss that w/my friends at church
< traci98 >   i don't think it's up for me to judge whether or not someone else's lifestyle is right or wrong...God will judge that in the end :)
< lynne2 >   your right trish.  this will take some thinking thru.
[ Dolores7 ]   (I) have mixed emotions...I think gays can't help it and are really made different...guess they deserve a break, but I sure would not be comfortable
< Marmee >   I've gotta go...if anyone has any cute, easy ideas for dressing up store bought cookies; please e-mail me. Marmee1953@aol.com TIA
[ Dolores7 ]   Sara...email or call KopyKake...you can have one in a week. Shipping was $12.00 to the UK
< lynne2 >   nite marmee.  i'll get those to you tonight
[ Dolores7 ]   ok Marmee
< Nita_B >   Night Marmee
< traci98 >   this could turn into a whole 'nother "ACD-October" issue....LOL
< Shirley_C >   I don't think I would have any problems doing a gay wedding cake.  But it is a NO to the saucy cakes.
< SusanM >   brb - coffee time.  Bye Marmee.
< ShirleyR >   nite Marmee
< earlene >   Something to think about.  We may all be faced with this at some time in the future.  I know I have friends who are gay but I don't talk about that with them.  I just appreciate them for the individuals they are.
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< SusanM >   That would be my position, Shirley C.  They can get exotic material elsewhere.
< lynne2 >   yes, it certain has been thought provoking:)
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< Sara_225 >   Dolores7: do you mean that you do not advise to get it from them?this what kk has told me?
[ Dolores7 ]   I don't mind the 'saucy' ones as much as that one of the 'baby poop' like on the m. board...its sick...and I wouldn't do that
< earlene >   Oh that is sick
[ Dolores7 ]   oh YES, get it from Kopy Kake - thats what I'm telling you.
[ Dolores7 ]   hi sweet
< Shirley_C >   You are right Dolores,  Eck!
< traci98 >   Lynne--i know you said you've done those before...I just can't understand why someone would want something like that?? Can you help me out here...
< earlene >   Guess I missed an interesting week on the message board.
< Sgr >   oh that sounds tasty.
[ Dolores7 ]   it was sick...more too..
< lynne2 >   wb sweet112 .  i'm leaving right now.   but have to say as i put on the board, i have done both ideas.
[ Dolores7 ]   its still at the top Earlene LOL
< earlene >   I'll check it out and then get off of here tonight.  I still have a couple of phone calls to get done tonight. See you guys next week in our great new chat room
[ Dolores7 ]   Lynne...I thought someone requested that idea - from you? Didn't remeber who
< lynne2 >   i just put a little yellow/tan squirt at one 'leg' of the diaper.
< ShirleyR >   nite earlene ..
< Nita_B >   Nite earlene
[ Dolores7 ]   night Earlene...have a good week.
< Sara_225 >   but KK  is  the one who  has told me that the printer is working on110vol but it works on 220vol buy sending me the transformer with
< Shirley_C >   I'm such a prude .. The first wilton's class I took, the teacher had her album in class, and I was just embarras to be seen looking at the pictures that were in her album.
< Sgr >   nite earlene
< lynne2 >   the other looks like a baby putting head between *it's* legs.   yes, it was a request from a customer
< SusanM >   Goodnight, Earlene.  Thanks for the interesting chat.  Bye
< lynne2 >   nite earlene
< SusanM >   How could anyone want to eat the cake that looks like baby poop?
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< ohmigosh >   hey thats cute
< Nita_B >   Cool, ShirleyR
< Sara_225 >   Bye Earlene
< ohmigosh >   nite earlene
[ Dolores7 ]   Sara...I am NOT the expert. Like I said, we had that very prob just today...a guy from the UK accidentely got 110 and needed 220 and KK sent it to him - was our customer so we spoke with KK about it and postage was $12.00 and we paid that.
< SusanM >   ShirleyR is the computer wiz
[ Dolores7 ]   my gosh Shirley! thats really cute
< lynne2 >   i've been to a shower where they gave you a 'diaper' (tiny) as a pin & at end if you had the 'dirty' one you won a prize
[ Dolores7 ]   How long did that take Shirley? LOL
< Sara_225 >   Thanks Dolores 7
< ohmigosh >   now thats gross!!!
< SusanM >   Where have I been - out in the woods too long, Lynne.
< ShirleyR >   thanks Dolores7 ...its a another program I downloaded for this chat
[ Dolores7 ]   you are very welcome Sara...good luck
< Sara_225 >   Good Luck to youDolores
[ Dolores7 ]   This is fun, but I better go too...Its almost 11 PM and I must get an early start tomorrow...night all
[ Dolores7 ]   see you next week...
< traci98 >   night Dolores7...thanks...
< Sara_225 >   bye Dolores see you
< ohmigosh >   LOL   Well then Lynne, then I'm a winner at least twice daily!!!!!!!!!
< Shirley_C >   I have a questions about those pearl molds .... How are the pearls connected to make a stand?
< SusanM >   ShirleyR - stop showing off.
[ Dolores7 ]   thank you Sara...boy! Shirley is fancy!
< ohmigosh >   nite Dolores
< ShirleyR >   LOL SusanM
[ Dolores7 ]   pushed together (I think it looked like Shirley
[ Dolores7 ]   nite all
< SusanM >   Lol